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On 12/29/2017 at 3:22 PM, Saika said:

What is a 2nd gen tinsel/tinselkin or shimmer/shimmerkin worth now? I've been gone for a while, and wondering if the raffles have changed their worth any.

Yes, it indeed has had some effect but more will come. I have seen the prizes offered in exchange for an ND, Gold, 2G Spriter's alt, or 2-3 Silvers (all CB). Some users are willing to ask for lesser value breeds in greater quantities (e.g. 10-40 hatchlings of CB commons).

 

Prizekin seem to be going for anywhere from a CB Common to an uncommon-common such as a Zyumorph from what I have seen..

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4 hours ago, shopfront said:

I'm feeling a bit out of touch after focusing on olives for the holly contest for so long. How many CB common/uncommon hatchies, or any lineage Aeon hatchies, would a 2g metal from holiday be worth?

 

Also, what are CB Zyus and CB Aeons worth/are they better 'trade fodder' than Coppers and Xenos these days or not?

As far as I can tell, all four breeds are still in high demand.

 

I see 2g metal from holidays all over the map. Some people want any one CB hatchie, others want a very specific type hatchie, and multiple of them; I have seen people offering a CB Gaia for a specific 2g metal x Holiday pairing.

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So I have a 3G Prize from a 2017 line and a 3G from a commonish 2015 line. Both are Silver, if that matters. Can I get anything other than BSAs or CB commons for them?

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Is there some form of rough trading guide that kinda gives an idea of the updated trading value of things? :ph34r: I'm just so lost when it comes to trading these days. I've been looking to descriptors like "Rare" vs "Uncommon", but I realize that those don't necessarily give a good gauge either because a Daydream and an Aeon are both listed as uncommon, but one is definitely of a higher trade value than the other. 

 

I think the part where Gaias are worth more than Almandines really threw me off. It made me realize that my idea of trade values is really off right now. 

 

This is my understanding right now: (not saying that this is the rule at all, just what I personally understand trade values to be) 

Tier 1:
2G from Spriter's Alt > 2G Prize / Neglected Dragon > CB Gold 

Tier 2: 
CB Silver > 3G from Spriter's Alt (?) > 2G Prize kin 

Tier 3: 
CB Copper /  CB Blusang / CB Unbreedables (although I seem to observe the dinos being more sought after than the others) / CB Xenos / 2G PB Alts (like blacks and vines) 
 blurry for me / CB Tan Ridgewing / CB Trio? 

** Although I do somehow think that the Copppers are worth more than the trios.. right? I don't really feel like the CB Trios are that sought after, even though they're classified as rare eggs since each scroll really only needs 1 set to summon the GoN. 

Tier 4: 
CB Zyus, CB Aeons (although I've seen them being more popular than Tan Ridgewings and Trios), CB Almandine / Spessartine / Pyrope ( I don't really know how these trade anymore), CB Fire Gems

Tier 4.5? 
CB Nebula, CB Gemshard, CB Baikala, other newish releases, CB BSA hatchies

Tier 5: 
Lineaged BSA / CB Hatchies 

Obviously, I'm missing out things.. mainly on purpose because I don't know how they stand with regards to the others. The value of 3G prizes and 2G Hybrids (like Carinas, Soul Peaces, Hell Horses, Setsong / Risensong etc) and really, anything at all with a lineage. 

 

Is this more or less right? Not that it matters a lot, but I just don't want to accidentally short-change the person I'm trading with (or myself!). I once saw an inexperienced trader trade her CB Silver for a CB Aeon, and don't want to find myself or anyone else in a similar situation. 

 

 

@The Dragoness - Based on my personal experience, I've actually managed to trade 1 of my 4Gs for a CB Zyu, although right now I'm really starting to think that that was an anomaly. I've never really had problems trading off my 3G Prizes though. I believe I got a CB Tan Ridgewing and a CB Spessartine as 2 of my more recent 3G Prize trades. 

 

 

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Here is the thing about trades, if the person with the cb silver really wanted the cb aeon, then for them it was a good deal, you never know they could have had a dozen cb silvers and no Aeon

 

Having said that trade value is relative to what people are seeking at the time, although cb trios for example come under rare trades, most players already have theirs, they are really only rare in the fact that they are seldom seen in the cave

 

It really all has to do with how prevalent, easy to catch things are in the cave as of course that is where all cbs come from!   Tons of people seem to cave hunt in the alpine, making cb almadines appear more often then say the sapperstine in the coast, where the eggs move really slowly.

 

I also have to disagree with a prizekin being worth a cb silver, I mean its a breeding fail after all, whereas a cb silver is fairly hard to catch, again people may really want that prize kin enough, what do I know

 

I am going to put blusangs in the same place as trios, sure they are hard to find, but who is really still collecting them but perhaps new players?

 

I really do not think there is a guide, or if there could actually be one as things fluctuate, what is valuable to one person may not be to another, having said that here is how I see things currently

 

Neglected

cb gold

cb silver

coppers

dinos, (I actually see a ton of these in the jungle tbh and who really needs more than 1 of each color, yet people seem to collect them, meh)  Same with cheese and paper, unless you are a collector, a couple is fine

xenos, depending on biome, astrapi seem more common than say chrono or gaia

aeons, these are actually easier to get in the forest than the alpine, yet you may stare at the cave for hours before seeing one

zyus, depending on color again some biomes move more than others

gemshards (hatchlings are worth more because you know the color at that point)

fire gems

pyrsalite (no clue how to spell that, but I have found these actually pretty easy to get both in the cave and from trades, I do not see them as rare at all and they often sit in the cave for some time before being taken)

 

One should never feel they are making a lopsided trade, I mean why would you offer more than you think something is worth?  If they offer it, I figure they want what I have more than they wanted what they are offering and vice versa

 

My 2 cents for what its worth, ones man's treasure is another man's junk and all that!

 

If you follow the trade threads and see what people are after for a time, you can judge for yourself

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@Karobb

Thanks, that's helpful!

 

To me, I saw that as taking advantage of the CB Silver's inexperience, and it just seems rather greedy. I don't know exactly what happened, but I do know the Aeon offer was made to her and she was led to believe that that was the Aeon's worth. I see her as getting the short end of the stick because she really wanted Aeons, and she could have gotten at least 2 to 3 of them with that same egg. But then again, that's just my way of thinking! 

 

I appreciate having a more updated view of the value of things. I don't want to end up in a situation where I waste my time by trying to trade a CB Almandine for a CB Gaia because my outdated knowledge placed Almandines as being as valuable and sought after as at least Coppers. I took a 2 years hiatus and only returned during Halloween 2017. Before I left, CB Almandines traded like CB Golds (they were a lot rarer than the other two colors back then). Pyropes (the one from the volcano) have always been common, even from 2015.   

 

By the by, I agree with you that to me, Blusangs aren't that rare or popular. But based on what I've seen from some trades, I've seen people offer Coppers for them, and vice versa. Could be just personal trade and demand, I guess, like you said. 

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Eh, its all fluctuates as you know, its a function on how hard something is to catch mixed with how much people want a certain thing, the only things that have truly held their value over time are neglected (only because its work to make them) cb metals and surprisingly coppers

 

Really I just keep an eye on all the trades going on and take it from there and I seem to do okay!  I also cave hunt so see whats going on there for the most part.

 

At the end of the day if your trades are not getting responses that is probably a clue as to something having changed value in "today's" market

 

And I just have to get this out, how the heck is a golden wyvern a cb metal lol!

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6 hours ago, Mochi said:

Hello, I was wondering what a CB green copper is currently worth?

 

It's typically valued more than the rainbow/red or brown coppers. So maybe worth a CB Gaia or a different CB xeno. You probably could trade it for 2 CB uncommons, also (maybe aeon + gemshard). Not sure if someone would go for trading it for a 3G prize, but I personally would value it at that.

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1 minute ago, coo_ said:

 

It's typically valued more than the rainbow/red or brown coppers. So maybe worth a CB Gaia or a different CB xeno. You probably could trade it for 2 CB uncommons, also (maybe aeon + gemshard). Not sure if someone would go for trading it for a 3G prize, but I personally would value it at that.

 

a 3rd gen prize is barely worth a cb uncommon hatchling these days

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Just now, Karobb said:

 

a 3rd gen prize is barely worth a cb uncommon hatchling these days

Depends on who is looking. Some people (especially collectors of various lines) will still offer Gaias, coppers, etc.

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5 minutes ago, Karobb said:

 

a 3rd gen prize is barely worth a cb uncommon hatchling these days

True, but I think those trading them still value them more based on the difficulty in obtaining a 2G prize. I often see people clinging to their original worth in their initial trade postings (regardless of what offers they may actually receive). 

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What's a 2G Metal (from non-Holiday mate, if that matters) worth these days? I used to easily trade them for other 2G Metals, but now I seem to have no such luck; perhaps the pairing's just not popular. So if I'm not asking for another 2G Metal, what should I try to get?

 

And what about CB Silvers? What should I breed or catch in order to be able to trade for one?

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3 hours ago, Aie said:

What's a 2G Metal (from non-Holiday mate, if that matters) worth these days? I used to easily trade them for other 2G Metals, but now I seem to have no such luck; perhaps the pairing's just not popular. So if I'm not asking for another 2G Metal, what should I try to get?

 

And what about CB Silvers? What should I breed or catch in order to be able to trade for one?

2G metals aren't worth much. A lot of people will breed them for free (send me a PM if you need something). It's likely you're either not offering something anyone is interested in, or you're asking for a pairing nobody is able to breed (2G metals from commons and new releases are hard to get).

 

As for CB silvers... do you have valuable 2G prizes to breed? If so, some collectors will trade CB silvers for 3G prize lines they don't have. Otherwise, unless you have a CB prize/Spriter's Alt, there's probably nothing you can breed for them. Look for people offering them for mass CB hatchlings, learn to make NDs, or get lucky in a giveaway.

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What would a CB Vampire bitten by an original 08 Vampire be worth? And one bitten by a CB 09 Vampire?

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What's a Paper egg worth nowadays? Could I get a CB Silver, or is that too much? Is a CB Zyu or Xeno more realistic for the Paper?

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26 minutes ago, Marie19R said:

What's a Paper egg worth nowadays? Could I get a CB Silver, or is that too much? Is a CB Zyu or Xeno more realistic for the Paper?

I can usually get a Zyu or a Xeno for Papers and Cheeses. Every so often, though, absolutely no one will bite.

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How do the different xenowyyrms compare to each other at the moment? Much of a muchness? Or are there some that are considered more valuable? If so, how much more valuable? Thanks! :)

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1 hour ago, StormWizard212 said:

How do the different xenowyyrms compare to each other at the moment? Much of a muchness? Or are there some that are considered more valuable? If so, how much more valuable? Thanks! :)

I think it's usually like Pyro < Astrapi < Thalassa < Mageia < Gaia < Chrono. They're definitely not all worth the same, but it's a player driven value.

 

How much is a CB Silver worth? I don't really want to keep it, so I'm hoping to get something nice.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, The Dragoness said:

I think it's usually like Pyro < Astrapi < Thalassa < Mageia < Gaia < Chrono. They're definitely not all worth the same, but it's a player driven value.

 

How much is a CB Silver worth? I don't really want to keep it, so I'm hoping to get something nice.

 

 

I don't know about others but I have traded a 2nd Gen Prize for a CB Silver. So I would say that value but I may be wrong.

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5 hours ago, The Dragoness said:

I think it's usually like Pyro < Astrapi < Thalassa < Mageia < Gaia < Chrono. They're definitely not all worth the same, but it's a player driven value.

 

How much is a CB Silver worth? I don't really want to keep it, so I'm hoping to get something nice.

 

 

I would argue that Gaias have been more pricey than Chronos, but otherwise this lines up with my experience.

 

Also, fwiw, Gaias have been the same worth as green Coppers lately. So I would think you could get something worth a bit more (2 Coppers? A few various Xenos? A specific Gold x ? Pairing?) for the Silver.

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What should I try and get to trade for gemshards? I want to start hoarding them for a lineage project I'm in. 

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