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2017-02-14 - Valentine's Day!

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I'll probably just kill mine if nothing changes before my kill slots are off cooldown. I got the name Cermorvus Dragon, and there's something pretty satisfying about the thought it being locked away forever on a dead dragon. Or maybe I'll get a zombie out of it. Win/win.

 

Either way unless there's a really, really good reason for this, I'm probably done with DC for good. I hoped that things would change during my two-year hiatus, but, nope, they're the same as they always were. Pity.

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Quoting the DRAMA!

 

 

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Comparison:

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If you're going to play the victim, please don't outright lie about it. You were notified via PM last night (in addition to the repeated contact I've had with edwardelricfreak over the past several days, that I know you are aware of because you PMed me about it). You responded to the very PM I sent you about an hour later. To claim that you don't know why the events that have happened transpired as they did is a bit more than disingenuous.

 

My earlier post in this thread was intentionally vague about the swap because I didn't want to draw negative attention to you and edwardelricfreak, but I'm not going to tolerate outright falsehoods.

 

 

I am avoiding giving specifics out of respect for the people involved. If they wish to share what happened, they can, and if it turns out they are comfortable doing so, I will gladly share my side of things.

 

 

The new spriter(s) explicitly asked for anonymity/to go without credit.

 

 

Form your own opinions, but don't insult the spriters

^ Thanks for reposting. I was really confused as to why my hatchlings have changed.

 

Looking at the sprites, I prefer the old set way more. Anatomy-wise, the head and neck of the new dragons are way too large for the body. The shading is harsh and flat. I get that there's *a* reason why the old sprites can't be used but why provide sprites that were rushed and below DC's regular quality? Having them "grow" into a fog and reveal less hurried adult sprites would have been better imo.

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would people really be wanting to abandon their eggs/hatchlings if the new ones were released first?

 

I like the first ones but I don't think the new ones are bad. and good luck to the people who are desperately wanting an explanation because I can't think of a time the general userbase has actually gotten one

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I'll probably just kill mine if nothing changes before my kill slots are off cooldown. I got the name Cermorvus Dragon, and there's something pretty satisfying about the thought it being locked away forever on a dead dragon. Or maybe I'll get a zombie out of it. Win/win.

 

Either way unless there's a really, really good reason for this, I'm probably done with DC for good. I hoped that things would change during my two-year hiatus, but, nope, they're the same as they always were. Pity.

I literally just froze mine. I was really excited about the old sprites because of how cute they were and then they got pulled and replaced by harsh colouring.

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Valentine 2017 - Sprite Replacement Explanation and Current Developments

 

Edit: Missing Old Val '17 images provided by Laura-Borealis

 

Due to unforeseen circumstances, the released sprites had to be changed. I apologize for any inconvenience that may cause, though thankfully it has no chance to impact lineages, since all dragons are CB and none have bred yet.

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Comparison:

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Even the egg sprite was modified a bit

 

user posted image New Egg Vs. Old Egg user posted image

 

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Well, since people want to know -

 

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(Shokomon: Current Adult Added for Comparison)

 

This is what the original Cermorvous looked like. I don't know why it was changed without EEF's or my consent, but it was. Sorry to everyone.

 

EEF and I were treated rather poorly about this release.

I don't know why it was changed without EEF's or my consent, but it was. Sorry to everyone.

 

EEF and I were treated rather poorly about this release.

If you're going to play the victim, please don't outright lie about it. You were notified via PM last night (in addition to the repeated contact I've had with edwardelricfreak over the past several days, that I know you are aware of because you PMed me about it). You responded to the very PM I sent you about an hour later. To claim that you don't know why the events that have happened transpired as they did is a bit more than disingenuous.

 

My earlier post in this thread was intentionally vague about the swap because I didn't want to draw negative attention to you and edwardelricfreak, but I'm not going to tolerate outright falsehoods.

 

However, since that's not the case... at this point the best way to settle things is probably to give some explanation. D.C. has a reputation for annoying levels of hyper secrecy and while I get that in this case it's actually justified as being sensitive, things are going to explode more without answers, not quiet down.

I am avoiding giving specifics out of respect for the people involved. If they wish to share what happened, they can, and if it turns out they are comfortable doing so, I will gladly share my side of things.

 

The new spriter doesn't get credit for their sprite, because of the negativity attached to the whole ordeal.

The new spriter(s) explicitly asked for anonymity/to go without credit.

 

I should apologise fro the censorkip.gif-storm that my dragons caused on here. I regret submitting my dragon to dc now.

 

While the newer spriter did a good job in the very short timeframe they had, I still would have rather my dragon be completely removed than have the sprites replaced.

 

Sorry again, everyone.

Form your own opinions, but don't insult the spriters

 

Edit (2/18): Fixing broken links, and adding things.

 

Edit: For Comedy! The Legendary Bee Movie Post, forever archived. Viewer Discretion is advised.

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Am I the only one who kinda likes the new S1 sprite? Not as much as the old one, but it looks like a tiny purple goat with its butt on fire.

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would people really be wanting to abandon their eggs/hatchlings if the new ones were released first?

 

I like the first ones but I don't think the new ones are bad. and good luck to the people who are desperately wanting an explanation because I can't think of a time the general userbase has actually gotten one

I thought the same thing. People are upset and are refusing to even attempt to like anything about the new sprites (I've seen some legit critiques and comparisons, kudos to not letting emotions cloud judgement)

 

 

The way people are being.... so childish... about it, it's no wonder the new spriter is staying anonymous.

 

 

This is the exact reason why the frills got pulled all those years ago is because we users were absolutely terrible to the spriter.

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People should take a day to have a think before they go freezing/killing/abandoning their CB holidays.

 

It's a CB holiday. Be reasonable. See sense.

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While I did greatly prefer the old stage ones, there's things I like and dislike about both adults. I love the hooves and the antlers on the old adult, as well as the head and neck as compared to the new, but I also adore the wings on the new adult. They feel like the dragon could actually fly, and wing structure really makes or breaks a dragon sprite for me. It's the reason I personally dislike the Solstice dragons as extremely as I do, because their wings don't look like they could ever hold the dragon's weight in the air, not attached to their bums the way they are.

 

It's a weird situation. Weird snazz is happening today.

Not sure what you mean. The solstice's wings are attached at the butt. xd.png

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Okay, what I miss? This randomly came up in convo on another site and apparently there was maybe theft?

 

I'm not killing my dragons. If guys want to, I'll just keep my new super-rare. xd.png

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If they absolutely won't ever come back no matter what, I think there should be a poll, and competition for new sprites.

 

The now-spriter is obviously uncomfortable with even the copyright. This would be better in that regard, at least. They might even be able to submit polished sprites that they would be happy to take credit for. No rushed sprites, let the user base vote on the final one, and implement that in a month or so as the permanent sprite.

 

I think transparency at this point would be best. Not about the details of the situation I mean, but allowing input and some measure of control would be a very exciting, and I think appealing, option to an otherwise disappointing situation. I think people would actually find it really fun, honestly, which would be a great way to offset the stress that some people are feeling.

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I'm gonna let my two grow, cause anything could still happen and I might want to breed these purple problems at some point xd.png

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If the new set were released first, it would not be the same as them being a replacement. The first sprites have a very different aesthetic than the new ones have, and it's reasonable to be upset about having that changed.

 

I do not feel like the new set is up to snuff currently, but if they were the first released in a mor polished version, while I would still think they look like knock-off Spyro and would not care for them, I would not be as upset.

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@shokomon stop

This is unhelpful. Shokomon is trying to make sure everyone sees what's happened and has all the information to form their opinion, since the thread is moving so fast and new people keep coming to look.

 

Shokomon, don't stop! You're doing good work!

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I don't hate the S1 sprite, I just dislike it. And though I'm battling Insomnia, I've never asked for, demanded, or expected an answer on the Why's of the change. I'm reading the drama because its, Yano, drama.

 

I prefer the originals, but I certainly can think of many reasons why it might possibly have been pulled (all entirely speculation) so... I'm keeping my set of V babies, because completion addict, and I kind of like the adults, and also holding out for updates o them.

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would people really be wanting to abandon their eggs/hatchlings if the new ones were released first?

 

I like the first ones but I don't think the new ones are bad. and good luck to the people who are desperately wanting an explanation because I can't think of a time the general userbase has actually gotten one

The new ones don't look like they would've been released independently at all.

 

Maybe with a bit more polish, but... they probably won't get to a state where we'd like them to be before the event is over. I'd rather have that space cleared up for other things than hatchlings that might not even be tweaked.

 

Like, it's not childish to only keep what sprites you like? People abandon hatchlings and eggs all the time.

 

If it wasn't a holiday dragon no one would be batting an eye at them being released.

 

Killing is different, because that means people won't get them at all, but... at least if people who don't like them abandon them, people who do like them but missed them will get them?

 

It's a win-win for everyone. I, and others, don't need to keep dragons we don't like. People who missed the event and love them - as many do - get them.

 

No need to be snarky or insulting, everyone (not specifically at you, though!! other people in the thread as well)

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I do not feel like the new set is up to snuff currently, but if they were the first released in a mor polished version, while I would still think they look like knock-off Spyro and would not care for them, I would not be as upset.

I totally agree, and no offense to the new spriter as they were probably rushed, that the new sprites need some polishing/fixes.

 

I think the wings are gorgeous, I prefer them to the old sprite, but I think the body could use some defining esp. the horns.

 

 

I think it would be nice if we could get any indication if these new sprites are 100% set in stone or if there will be any small changes made to them.

 

That might help out with people emotionally killing/abandoning their eggs?

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This is unhelpful. Shokomon is trying to make sure everyone sees what's happened and has all the information to form their opinion, since the thread is moving so fast and new people keep coming to look.

 

Shokomon, don't stop! You're doing good work!

Agreed smile.gif

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This is the exact reason why the frills got pulled all those years ago is because we users were absolutely terrible to the spriter.

ohmy.gif Really? That's before my time, so I wouldn't know. I thought they were pulled to limit the supply. You know, to make them rare and valuable.

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I think the updated ones are beautiful. I love those colors and how saturdated they are. I missed the release, so I'll happily take any from people who no longer want them.

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I actually think the new sprites look okay, especially the adults. Caught me off-guard when I checked my scroll and the hatchies were different, but I can get used to it.

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If anyone does decide to abandon their hatchlings, there was someone who missed the event a few pages back who might appreciate them. Or people who missed the eggs in general.

I'm one of the peoples who missed the eggs completely. To read that some users do want to freeze or kill their eggs/hachis makes me really sad, because I don't have even one sad.gif

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People should take a day to have a think before they go freezing/killing/abandoning their CB holidays.

 

It's a CB holiday. Be reasonable. See sense.

This. Absolutely this. CB Holidays are literally once in a lifetime dragons. I might dislike the new stage ones and it's not the same dragon we caught, but when it comes down to it this is a CB Holiday, and the first non-pink/white/red Valentine's ever! The adults have problems in both forms, and if the change had been from these new ones to the old ones, we still would have been upset.

 

We can dislike it all we want, but the reason we're upset isn't the change itself, it's how the change was handled. Like with the Prize Raffles - I myself was furious, as I joined DC very shortly after the last raffle in 2015 and was looking forward to my first in 2016, and it never happened. I'm not angry that it didn't happen though, I'm angry that we were not warned, were given no explanation, and still have not been communicated with about it. It's not the change. The old dragons were pretty, and the new dragons are also pretty, especially for such a rushed job. It's how the change was implemented.

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