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2017-02-14 - Valentine's Day!

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I think if they hadn't of switched just before adulthood due to unforeseen circumstances, that would have made me like them more. Maybe if after they hatched, they switched at the s1. It's not that I hate them or anything, I was just expecting a totally different beastie. And well, the old adult happens to be it.

 

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I think if they hadn't of switched  just before adulthood due to unforeseen circumstances, that would have made me like them more. Maybe if after they hatched, they switched at the s1. It's not that I hate them or anything, I was just expecting a totally different beastie. And well, the old adult happens to be it.

Well said. smile.gif Although I do still think several things about the new sprites are off. I realise that's probably because they were rushed.

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Oh Zxke, why must you do that. Just as TJ was offering to be diplomatic and forthcoming.

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I like both of the adult sprites, the current ones the feet bother me for some reason and it also seems less polished than the original (wow on the detail).

The original hatchlings that were shown were my favorite as well. I thought they looked deer-like with fluffy bunny tails lol. But still cute. The new ones... ehhhh... not feeling it. They have the same less polished feel like the adults.

Oh well. Still hoping for more answers as well. Either way, happy with the idea behind the sprite and the color scheme.

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I've got my tin foil hat and popcorn. I'm ready to rock the DC Drama Wild Ride.

 

This beats Halloween 2010 for drama for sure.

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Oh wow what a gorgeous adult sprite. I hate to see drama appearing between TJ and the spriters, and things that don't add up here or there... S: Sigh

 

 

EDIT: LOL above me...

Also, what does wew mean? i've been seeing it everywhere

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Is that the Bee Movie script

 

Spoilers, man. I've never seen it.

Is that what that was? So glad whoever deleted it zzzzz..Edit;;;lol above me again!

 

 

 

Thank you TJ.

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Is that the Bee Movie script

 

Spoilers, man. I've never seen it.

It was. But now it's gone.

 

Please keep things on-topic, everyone. I understand that a lot has happened and it's definitely stressful/drama-inducing, but spam is not the right way to defuse the situation.

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Well, since people want to know -

 

~Removed~

 

This is what the original Cermorvous looked like. I don't know why it was changed without EEF's or my consent, but it was. Sorry to everyone.

 

EEF and I were treated rather poorly about this release.

This is really disappointing. I prefer your and EEF's sprites to these new ones. I'm so sorry you two had this happen.

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Honestly, I like both sprites. They're both lovely.

 

I don't like the drama going on about both. Obviously there's something going on and they needed to be removed, but I like the new sprites too, so congratulations to whoever made those! You did a good job, especially on such a short notice.

 

 

Honestly, if people are going to keep complaining, remove both of the sprites, replace them with bees. There. Problem solved. Everyone can go home.

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I'm in full support of EEF and Tazzay. This isn't right. This isn't fair.

 

I would like to know the full story. Everyone would like to know the full story. :\

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I think if they hadn't of switched just before adulthood due to unforeseen circumstances, that would have made me like them more. Maybe if after they hatched, they switched at the s1. It's not that I hate them or anything, I was just expecting a totally different beastie. And well, the old adult happens to be it.

Considering the secrecy around Holiday releases, I don't think hardly anyone but the spriters and TJ see the dragon before it being released. Even artists don't know if their concept is going to be used until they see the egg in the cave at release. It is pretty much impossible for there to be a ready and waiting replacement for unforseen circumstances like this. Getting a new set done before they grow up is already a huge accomplishment.

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Usually I try to stay 150% out of things like this. But now this is just getting.... messy.

-TJ switched sprites due to _____ reason.

-Tazzay said that they were not notified about this change, but

-TJ has stated he was in contact with both EEF, and Tazzay about everything.

 

So obviously there's either some miscommunication, or flat out lying going on somewhere in this chain. Which... isn't okay. Mind you, I'm not trying to accuse anyone. I'm not trying to ruffle feathers further. But then the point of concept theft was brought up, and honestly that seems like a valid concern.

EEF and Tazzay obviously had a concept, and it seems that the new sprites are obviously trying to pull from that concept. Is that necessarily acceptable?

 

I'm hoping that this will be resolved. Obviously there is going to be negative feelings. Especially considering this would have been I think EEF's and Tazzay's first in-cave sprite.

But I'm really hoping the community will bounce back from this.

It isn't the end of the world guys. Sprites can be touched up and brought up to par. If it's true that these sprites were made in a whole 48 hours, it's amazing they're even this well done. I have seen concepts take years to reach completion.

 

So spriter(s), whoever you are, thank you for this. Considering your time constraints, you did well. You honestly did.

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Usually I try to stay 150% out of things like this. But now this is just getting.... messy.

-TJ switched sprites due to _____ reason.

-Tazzay said that they were not notified about this change, but

-TJ has stated he was in contact with both EEF, and Tazzay about everything.

 

So obviously there's either some miscommunication, or flat out lying going on somewhere in this chain. Which... isn't okay. Mind you, I'm not trying to accuse anyone. I'm not trying to ruffle feathers further. But then the point of concept theft was brought up, and honestly that seems like a valid concern.

EEF and Tazzay obviously had a concept, and it seems that the new sprites are obviously trying to pull from that concept. Is that necessarily acceptable?

 

I'm hoping that this will be resolved. Obviously there is going to be negative feelings. Especially considering this would have been I think[/i] EEF's and Tazzay's first in-cave sprite.

But I'm really hoping the community will bounce back from this.

It isn't the end of the world guys. Sprites can be touched up and brought up to par. If it's true that these sprites were made in a whole 48 hours, it's amazing they're even this well done. I have seen concepts take years to reach completion.

 

So spriter(s), whoever you are, thank you for this. Considering your time constraints, you did well. You honestly did.

"Once this agreement is in effect, permission to use the art may not be removed by the artist without

the consent of the owner of Dragon Cave. If the art is already in use, it may not be removed until a

suitable replacement has been found or created and is in use. In extreme cases, the owner of Dragon

Cave reserves the right to immediately remove art without the consent of the artist."

 

This is straight from the agreement every artist signs prior to release.

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Oh.

My.

God.

 

How did I miss a three-day event?? Damn it! *beats head against desk*

The event is still going on. You did unfortunately miss the egg drop, but there may be some floating around the AP.

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The worst thing about all this is that nobody wins. EEF and Tazzay don't get their dragon in cave. The new spriter doesn't get credit for their sprite, because of the negativity attached to the whole ordeal.

 

We have a new dragon, and we're lucky for that. It is a shame it had to be this way.

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Considering the secrecy around Holiday releases, I don't think hardly anyone but the spriters and TJ see the dragon before it being released. Even artists don't know if their concept is going to be used until they see the egg in the cave at release. It is pretty much impossible for there to be a ready and waiting replacement for unforseen circumstances like this. Getting a new set done before they grow up is already a huge accomplishment.

I gave my kudos in the thread earlier to the spriter/spriters for getting stuff done on such short notice and I'm aware of the process that goes into sprite submission for a holiday. However, the public discussion between TJ and Tazzay makes it seem like this was a problem that could have been dealt with long before these made it to 3 hours before adulthood.

 

Either way, it doesn't change the fact that I was expecting a different dragon and upon seeing said dragon, concluding that I liked it a lot more. I'm still letting my current Val 2017's grow, but I stand by the fact that this could have transitioned much easier before getting to this point.

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