Posted September 5, 2021 I don't recall exact information to fill out the forms, but wanted to add my best experience so far. For science? After experimenting a bit, this is so far my method with the highest success. Batch of 8 fresh eggs all around the same time. Tossed them in one hatchery (hatching club) after about an hour. Kept a close eye, fog if sick, unfog when not sick, repeat. It can be a bit tedious to babysit them, but I dont really mind. Threw them in a few more hatcheries after about 12 hours. Put them in all hatcheries another 12 hours later. Again, watching sickness and fogging when needed. Wait til about 2k Views, 4-500 UV. Usually get there around a day and a half after I caught them, so before they go below 5 Days is preferable. Then EQ. Did one EQ, hatched and caught 4, 3 died, one lived (and i kept that one as a regular Shumoga cuz I liked the code). Second batch, 8 eggs. Roughly the same time, some were a day older, but pretty much the same deal. This time 5/8 hatched and caught, 3 dead. This one took 3 EQ. Did not use Incubate or Ward, just for the record. I've done this method before with Cantos and also had decent success. I've had the least success with treating them like normal eggs and waiting until they have large holes and are just about ready to naturally hatch. Had much more death that way. Call me crazy, but I'm actually kind of having fun with this BSA now. It's a fun and new way to play around with and be more hands on with hatching, and I'm all for it! Share this post Link to post
Posted September 5, 2021 Ughhhh. I have 5 shumoga eggs sitting at 2 days and 6 hours with over 4k views. After 2 EQs I have 1 dead egg and four unaffected. Gotta wait for my next green to age up in 11 hours to try again. >.> Is this alt just extremely rare or what? Share this post Link to post
Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, fergalicious214 said: Ughhhh. I have 5 shumoga eggs sitting at 2 days and 6 hours with over 4k views. After 2 EQs I have 1 dead egg and four unaffected. Gotta wait for my next green to age up in 11 hours to try again. >.> Is this alt just extremely rare or what? This alt is indeed quite hard to get. If you really want to take a shot the actual "kill" action also works for getting skittish ones if you force them out of the shell instead of actually killing the baby. Also, from what I've seen in this thread (and from deaths me and my friends have experienced) it'd actually seem that old eggs (under 4 days) with big holes actually have a lower chance hatching compared to eggs at around 5 day (with >=s3 crack) ...can't say it's a confirmed fact but that's a trend I've been noticing Share this post Link to post
Posted September 5, 2021 52 minutes ago, Moriaty said: This alt is indeed quite hard to get. If you really want to take a shot the actual "kill" action also works for getting skittish ones if you force them out of the shell instead of actually killing the baby. Also, from what I've seen in this thread (and from deaths me and my friends have experienced) it'd actually seem that old eggs (under 4 days) with big holes actually have a lower chance hatching compared to eggs at around 5 day (with >=s3 crack) ...can't say it's a confirmed fact but that's a trend I've been noticing I'll have to try that on my next batch of eggs! I'd try the kill interaction but since EQ counts as a kill slot I have to wait for the EQs to fall off before trying that. Though with how long the darn cooldown is on EQ I should get the kill slots back soonish? I'm just hoping they change the mechanic so an unaffected egg can hatch altered....... Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 To add to the statistics at the bottom of the previous page... I've EQ'd 12 eggs, only two of which have been hatch & catch. The other 10 were fails... 9 of which by death. Based on the previous page's statistics, this is supposed to be roughly 60% fail rate and I've gotten 80% fail rate. That's extremely disheartening and honestly, I'd be a lot more optimistic to continue trying if those general statistics were more like <40% kill rate and that I've just been really unlucky. But to see it's 60%+ is really disheartening. Even with everyone treating this as "just trade for them!", that doesn't negate the death rates. Trading for them doesn't make the kill rate just vanish. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 Did an EQ recently with 2 eggs: Egg 1 - 6 days, unknown amount of hours = killed Egg 2 - 5 days, 7 hours = unaffected Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 only 1 EQ because my greens still haven't come back from the war. hatched my first wild shumoga on my own though :3 Egg 1: (3d 19h) (s3) (not sick) (incubated) - no effect Egg 2: (3d 19h) (s3) (not sick) (incubated) - no effect Egg 3: (3d 19h) (s3) (not sick) (incubated) - no effect Egg 4: (3d 20h) (s3) (not sick) (incubated) - hatched Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) Got some EQ stats for everyone. It's under a spoiler because it's long and I don't want to clog up this feed with a giant message! Spoiler 1st EQ shumoga 4d 14ish hours (i forgot to check) fogged - not sick s5 hatched and caught shumoga 4d 14ish hours (i forgot to check) fogged - not sick s5 died canto 4d 17ish hours (i forgot to check) fogged - not sick s5 hatched and caught 2 shumoga dragons (see below for 2nd EQ) 4d 20h fogged - not sick s5 unaffacted shumoga (see below for 2nd EQ) 4d 14h fogged - not sick s5 unaffected 2nd EQ shumoga 4d 14h fogged - not sick s5 hatched and escaped 2 shumoga dragons 4d 20h fogged - not sick s5 hatched and caught Edited September 6, 2021 by Lissarose Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) i am really gutless when it comes to earthquake, but i still need some green cantors. so i got two market eggs and here's what happened: Cantormaris Market Egg #: 1 Time Remaining: 5d13h Crack Stage: s2 Sick?: n Incu?: n Result: hatched/caught Cantormaris Market Egg #: 2 Time Remaining: 5d13h Crack Stage: s2 Sick?: n Incu?: n Result: unaffected might not matter but views were around 1900/400 for both of them. Edited September 6, 2021 by miaou Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) Another small try, I'm too nervous about all this to try with a big batch. 2 CB Shumoga eggs, two Earthquake attempts: The higher-timed egg, at 5d-something, was successfully hatched/caught with the first EQ. 2nd egg, at 4d23h, was unaffected both times. The higher-timed success did get sick, but I Warded it right before attempting EQ and it seems to be fine. It does seem like there is a 'sweet spot' between higher-times and lower-times, all 3 of my Shumoga successes have been with the higher-timed eggs. edit: Decided to try one more EQ, and it finally killed the 2nd egg. Edited September 6, 2021 by HeatherMarie Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 More kill usage stats since I got too many eggos on me scroll to EQ Egg was unincubated - used kill seconds after this screencap, hatched n caught! Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 Just had a Shumoga success. Attempt 1-2nd gen bred Time Remaining: 4d2h Crack Stage: s5 Sick?: no Incu?: yes Result: hatched/caught Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 Here's a couple results from my recent earthquake that didn't go well: Egg #: 1 (gold dragon) Time Remaining: 4d 5h Crack Stage: stage 5 Sick?: no Incu?: yes Result: The earthquake cracks the egg's shell, killing the baby dragon inside Egg #: 2 (golden wyvern) Time Remaining: 4d 3h Crack Stage: stage 5 Sick?: no Incu?: yes Result: The earthquake cracks the egg's shell, killing the baby dragon inside Egg #: 3 (pink dragon) Time Remaining: 4d 3h Crack Stage: stage 5 Sick?: no Incu?: yes Result: The earthquake cracks the egg's shell, killing the baby dragon inside Egg #: 4 (purple dragon) Time Remaining: 4d 3h Crack Stage: stage 5 Sick?: no Incu?: yes Result: The earthquake cracks the egg's shell, and a baby dragon scampers out. It tries to run away, but you catch it. Egg #: 5 (shumoga dragon) Time Remaining: 4d 5h Crack Stage: stage 5 Sick?: no Incu?: yes Result: The earthquake cracks the egg's shell, killing the baby dragon inside Share this post Link to post
Posted September 6, 2021 Here's the results of my most recent earthquake, after following the advice in this thread. Egg #: 1 (I don't remember what the species was called and can't check until it grows up :p) Time Remaining: 4 days 11 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: Don't remember Result: Unaffected Egg #: 2 (Shumoga) Time Remaining: 4 days 18 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: Hatched early, and caught Egg #: 3 (Shumoga) Time Remaining: 4 days 18 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: Hatched early, and caught Egg #: 4 (Shumoga) Time Remaining: 4 days 20 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: Hatched early, and caught Egg #: 5 (Shumoga) Time Remaining: 4 days 20 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: Hatched early, and caught Egg #: 6 (Shumoga) Time Remaining: 4 days 23 hours Crack Stage: S3 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: Hatched early, and caught Keep in mind that the time remaining may not be exactly accurate, as this was a few days ago and I didn't take notes. The times were at the very least close to the ones I've estimated here, give or take a few hours. The info on crack stages and everything else is all accurate though, I'm pretty sure. I mostly wanted to share this attempt because of the astonishing success rate. I know I got very lucky, but I wouldn't have gotten anywhere near that level of success if I hadn't found this thread and the tips in the first post, so cheers to the OP. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) Earthquake Attempt 1 Egg #: 1 Time Remaining: 4 days 5 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: Yes Result: Unaffected Egg #: 2 Time Remaining: 4 days 12 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: Yes Result: Unaffected Egg #: 3 Time Remaining: 4 days 12 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: Yes Result: Hatched and Caught ~~~ Earthquake Attempt 2 Egg #: 1 Time Remaining: 4 days 5 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: Yes Result: Hatched and Caught Egg #: 2 Time Remaining: 4 days 12 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: Yes Result: Died Edited September 7, 2021 by Natevaelle Share this post Link to post
Posted September 7, 2021 I wanted to share some really good odds I had today. Full batch of 8 caveborn Shumogas, all quaked at once with each egg hovering at 5 days 10 hours remaining and with around 500 UVs and 2500 OVs. No Incubate, Ward, nothing done to the eggs other than intermittent fogging. Six hatched, only two died, using only three Greens (good news to hear after having once wasted six Greens on one single egg that did not budge anyway). After some skimming through this thread, it turns out this is very similar to the "successful" method @Tiki G had described above, and I want to continue collecting and quaking batches similar to these statistics to find a potential pattern, a "sweet spot" if you will, for best outcome. Pics or it didn't happen? Spoiler Round one: Round two: Round three: And, egg stats taken right before EQ: Share this post Link to post
Posted September 7, 2021 Egg #: 1 Time Remaining: 3d13h Crack Stage: 5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: hatched and caught Egg #: 2 Time Remaining: 3d13h Crack Stage: 5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: killed Egg #: 3 Time Remaining: 3d13h Crack Stage: 5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: hatched and caught Egg #: 4 Time Remaining: 3d13h Crack Stage: 5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: hatched and caught Egg #: 5 Time Remaining: 3d13h Crack Stage: 5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: unaffected Egg #: 6 Time Remaining: 3d13h Crack Stage: 5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: hatched and caught Egg #: 7 Time Remaining: 3d13h Crack Stage: 5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: unaffected Egg #: 8 Time Remaining: 3d13h Crack Stage: 5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: unaffected Pretty good! Especially since those were all Cantos, so it was just survival that mattered, not hatching. I also EQ'd another batch a few days ago, but I forgot to write down all the particulars. It was seven Cantos, ranging from ~3d5h and 4d7h (not Incubated). Two hatched (both at 4d7h) and the rest were unaffected. So, waiting until they have big holes and are past normal hatching time seems to be working well for me so far! Share this post Link to post
Posted September 8, 2021 Used 4 quakes on 7 shumoga eggs. Quake I: 4 catched hatchlings, 3 unaffected eggs. Quake II: 2 catched hatchlings, 1 unaffected egg. Quake III & IV: the egg is unaffected. I am pretty happy about my luck. Timers were: ~2-3d, ~3-4d, ~3-4d, 4d, 4d4h, 4d16h, 5d. I actually had a fifth green dragon available, but I didn't notice. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 9, 2021 Welp I filled my scroll up with eggs before finally noticing that all my greens are on cooldown, sooo.... In about two days I'll be doing 7 low-time eggs (~2 days 19 hours unincubated) with around 500-600 UVs and 2700-2800 OVs. It will be interesting for science if nothing else. 😆 Share this post Link to post
Posted September 9, 2021 Question, is there any downsides to EQing while the eggs are fogged? I've seen some people do that so they won't hatch before or in-between EQs, but would it negatively affect anything or give a higher chance of death or anything? (Mis-timed things and these eggs will be ER-timed when I'll be able to EQ them, they already have s5 holes so...) Share this post Link to post
Posted September 9, 2021 My bad luck continues. This time tried a Stage 2 egg as my Stage 5 eggs all died before. 1 Egg Time Remaining: 4d14h Crack Stage: 2 Sick?: No Incu?: No 1st Quake: Result: unaffected 2nd Quake: Result: unaffected 3rd Quake: Result: unaffected 4th Quake: Result: egg killed Share this post Link to post
Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) Whoops! I didn't mean to post yet!! Will edit with results in a few hours. All CB Shumoga: Egg #: 1 Time Remaining: 4 days 20 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: The earthquake cracks the egg’s shell, killing the baby dragon inside. Egg #: 2 Time Remaining: 4 days 20 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: Was Incu?: No Result: The earthquake cracks the egg’s shell, killing the baby dragon inside. Egg #: 3 Time Remaining: 4 days 21 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: Was Incu?: No Result: The earthquake cracks the egg’s shell, killing the baby dragon inside. Egg #: 4 Time Remaining: 4 days 21 hours Crack Stage: S5 Sick?: Was Incu?: No Result: The earthquake cracks the egg’s shell, killing the baby dragon inside. Egg #: 5 Time Remaining: 4 days 21 hours Crack Stage: S5 / 3,630 / 590/ 1 Sick?: No Incu?: No Result: The earthquake cracks the egg’s shell, killing the baby dragon inside. All were also previously Warded. They all have similar Views, Unique Views, etc. ANYWAYS, with all of them dead after four Earthquakes... Three CB Cantormaris, all bought from the Market. One Earthquake, hoping to not affect any of them: Egg #: 6 Time Remaining: 7 days Crack Stage: None Sick?: No Incu?: Yes Result: The earthquake cracks the egg’s shell, killing the baby dragon inside. Egg #: 7 Time Remaining: 7 days Crack Stage: None Sick?: No Incu?: Yes Result: The earthquake cracks the egg’s shell, killing the baby dragon inside. Egg #: 8 Time Remaining: 7 days Crack Stage: None Sick?: No Incu?: Yes Result: The egg is unaffected by the earthquake. Edited September 9, 2021 by Kiyoura Share this post Link to post
Posted September 9, 2021 Welp, that was an adventure. Four EQ attempts on 3 eggs: First attempt all eggs unaffected. Second killed 1, with 2 unaffected. Third killed 1 with 1 unaffected. Fourth finally gave a successful hatched/caught on my last egg. All eggs were between 4d8h and 4d2h unincubated, all with s5 holes. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) Yeeeeaaaaaaaahhh!!!! First time I got a full success! 3 Shumoga eggs, all three incubated at 4d14h with S3 cracks around 1500 Views, 470-490 UVs 1st EQ, first two hatched and caught, 2nd EQ last one hatched and caught, too! Edited September 9, 2021 by Astreya Share this post Link to post
Posted September 9, 2021 More results :3 This time I only needed one EQ for all seven eggs - my first ever EQ result without a single Unaffected egg! All at 5d10h except for the final two eggs which were at 5d9h (the distinction is probably very minimal though). And stats. I EQ'd a bit early, below the 500 UV threshold compared to last time. 16 hours ago, HeatherMarie said: is there any downsides to EQing while the eggs are fogged? I don't think so, or at least I don't think it should. I can't imagine anything about the fogging function intersecting with the functionality of EQ. Share this post Link to post
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