Posted September 18, 2015 I think I missed the answer to this, but when exactly are we expecting the Silver Lunars to drop? Thanks! ETA: @LumosSeeker - The theory is Tuesday, it could be 8 PM but nobody's really sure about it. Umm, to be exact, I (and I think the majority of theories/speculations) expect the Silver Heralds not on Tuesday, but on Monday (September 21st) at 8 pm DC-time. If the pattern of the phase changes is kept as it was so far. (So, actually, for me it will be Tuesday when the silver Heralds are released, because I'm six hours ahead of cavetime, but I think it's better to always give such times in cavetime.) Share this post Link to post
Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) According to the theories (or, at least one of the theories), there will be a long silver drop like the blues, right? And then back to gold? I might have to wait until it cycles to gold again before I can finish my hatchie goals. Yes. Should be eight days of silver followed by four days of gold. Umm, to be exact, I (and I think the majority of theories/speculations) expect the Silver Heralds not on Tuesday, but on Monday (September 21st) at 8 pm DC-time. If the pattern of the phase changes is kept as it was so far. This is the leading theory, yes. On DragCave time, they should begin at exactly 8:00 PM on Monday, September 21st. Edited September 19, 2015 by Millie_Azure Share this post Link to post
Posted September 18, 2015 lol... solved my gold lunar issue pestered my bf into breeding me 3 golds for my goals. so now im all ready and waiting for the silvers <3 Share this post Link to post
Posted September 18, 2015 Still trying to get more CB golds -p- no success yet. -p- Hoping the switch to silvers happen on MONDAY, not Tuesday, since I'm flying out on Tuesday and will miss the initial flood. E_E *praying!* Share this post Link to post
Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Here's a handy calendar through the end of the year, assuming the leading hypothesis is correct. 21 Sep - Waxing Gibbous - Waxing Gibbous - Silver 29 Sep - Waning Gibbous - Waning Crescent - Gold 3 Oct - Waning Crescent - New ---------------- Bronze 7 Oct - Waning Crescent - Waxing Gibbous - Blue 15 Oct - Waxing Crescent - Waning Crescent - Bronze 19 Oct - Waxing Gibbous - New ---------------- Gold 23 Oct - Waxing Gibbous - Waxing Gibbous - Silver 31 Oct - Waning Gibbous - Waning Crescent - Gold 4 Nov - Waning Crescent - New ---------------- Bronze 8 Nov - Waning Crescent - Waxing Gibbous - Blue 16 Nov - Waxing Crescent - Waning Crescent - Bronze 20 Nov - Waxing Gibbous - New ---------------- Gold 24 Nov - Waxing Gibbous - Waxing Gibbous - Silver 2 Dec - Waning Gibbous - Waning Crescent - Gold 6 Dec - Waning Crescent - New ---------------- Bronze 10 Dec - Waning Crescent - Waxing Gibbous - Blue 18 Dec - Waxing Crescent - Waning Crescent - Bronze 22 Dec - Waxing Gibbous - New ---------------- Gold 26 Dec - Waxing Gibbous - Waxing Gibbous - Silver And for those super long-term planners among you, here's a calendar through 2020. Edited September 19, 2015 by Millie_Azure Share this post Link to post
Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) My internet is down for reasons. Any updates will be done as soon as I get home. It's almost 8 and I'm stuck on mobile. Edit: Cirion is now Waxing Crescent! Are we still catching/breeding gold eggs? Edited September 19, 2015 by Shokomon Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 My internet is down for reasons. Any updates will be done as soon as I get home. It's almost 8 and I'm stuck on mobile. Edit: Cirion is now Waxing Crescent! Are we still catching/breeding gold eggs? Just bred a gold: http://dragcave.net/lineage/qnKhm Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 I have the most awful time catching cb golds. lol Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Here's a handy calendar through the end of the year, assuming the leading hypothesis is correct. 21 Sep - Waxing Gibbous - Waxing Gibbous - Silver 29 Sep - Waning Gibbous - Waning Crescent - Gold 3 Oct - Waning Crescent - New ---------------- Bronze 7 Oct - Waning Crescent - Waxing Gibbous - Blue 15 Oct - Waxing Crescent - Waning Crescent - Bronze 19 Oct - Waxing Gibbous - New ---------------- Gold 23 Oct - Waxing Gibbous - Waxing Gibbous - Silver 31 Oct - Waning Gibbous - Waning Crescent - Gold 4 Nov - Waning Crescent - New ---------------- Bronze 8 Nov - Waning Crescent - Waxing Gibbous - Blue 16 Nov - Waxing Crescent - Waning Crescent - Bronze 20 Nov - Waxing Gibbous - New ---------------- Gold 24 Nov - Waxing Gibbous - Waxing Gibbous - Silver 2 Dec - Waning Gibbous - Waning Crescent - Gold 6 Dec - Waning Crescent - New ---------------- Bronze 10 Dec - Waning Crescent - Waxing Gibbous - Blue 18 Dec - Waxing Crescent - Waning Crescent - Bronze 22 Dec - Waxing Gibbous - New ---------------- Gold 26 Dec - Waxing Gibbous - Waxing Gibbous - Silver And for those super long-term planners among you, here's a calendar through 2018. A million thanks Millie_Azure!! I am very very ill, on a lot of meds that make my thinking cloudy/fuzzy and I couldn't for the life of me sort out all the information folks had posted regarding the moon phases, try as I might. Your calendar is easy and very handy. Thanks! Edit: spelling...what else Edited September 19, 2015 by Pinch of StarDust Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) PHASE CHANGE!!! Aurax is still WaXing Gibbous and Cirion is now WAXING CRESCENT! Eggs are still gold! - Document Updated! Thanks BananaGummyBear and MilleAzure and everyone else who commented (and PM'd me.) - Millie-Azure has made a New Valkemare Lunar Calender, based on current data, that predicts the Lunar Egg Herald results all the way to 2018! THANK THIS PERSON! - Check the DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories Thread for speculation when Silvers are going to come (as well as explanations why we think that way)! - State your breeding plans and funny names for the Lunar Heralds in the Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming Thread! - Please vote for your favorite Lunar Herald color on the What's Your Favourite Lunar Herald?, Vote away! Thread! - Please tell me if I missed anything! A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS: (For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates) ------- - We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons! - PHASE CHANGE! Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon) and Cirion (Blue Moon) are now in the WaXing Gibbous and WaXing Crescent phases respectively. - Everyone is still catching Gold eggs in the Cave! - We have Adult dragons, and we are now breeding Gold Lunar eggs!! - The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.) - So far, Gold, Bronze, and Blue/Indigo eggs have dropped in the Cave! Bronze and Blue/Indigo eggs have been bred. - Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post. - There is currently no repeat flood for Gold eggs. As such, it will be more difficult to catch Gold eggs, since other eggs have already mixed in. This is to be expected because Golds already had their flood earlier in the release. - No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when. - That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself. - IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post. - This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under. - The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Cycle Post taken and modified from TJ's post) --- Based on current data, it seems that Cirion's phases change faster than Aurax's. ----- Aurax takes 8 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon and 7 days to move from WaXing Crescent to Waxing Gibbous. ----- Cirion takes 4 days to move from WaXing Gibbous to Full Moon, 3 days to move from WaNing Gibbous to WaNing Crescent, and 4 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon. ----- Aurax's New Moon is 24 hours long. ----- Cirion's Full Moon and New Moon phases are confirmed to be 24 hours long. ----- Cirion and Aurax both skip the First Quarter and Last Quarter Phases. ----- !!! Cirion's cycle is almost completely confirmed! Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC. Aurax: Waning Gibbous Cirion: Waning Crescent CB Lunar eggs are Gold. Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waning Crescent* Cirion: New* CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze. - The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours. * = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too. Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC Aurax: Waning Crescent Cirion: New CB Lunar eggs are Bronze. Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 05, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waning Crescent** Cirion: Waxing Crescent** CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze. ** Exact time of change Unknown. Sep 05, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waning crescent Cirion: Waxing Gibbous CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo. - The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days. Sep 05, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 09, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waning crescent Cirion: Waxing Gibbous CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo. Sep 09, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sep 10, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC Aurax: New Cirion: Full CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo. Sep 10, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sept 13, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waxing Crescent Cirion: Waning Gibbous CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo. Sep 13, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waxing Crescent Cirion: Waning Crescent CB Lunar eggs have changed from Blue/Indigo to Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Blue/Indigo to Bronze. - The Blue/Indigo egg drop lasted about 8 days. Sep 14, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 17, 2015 @ 7:59 EST/DC Aurax: Waxing Crescent Cirion: Waning Crescent CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze. Sep 17, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waxing Gibbous Cirion: New CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Gold. - The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days. Sep 18, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to 7:59 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waxing Gibbous Cirion: New CB Lunar eggs are Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs are Gold. Sep 18, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waxing Gibbous Cirion: Waxing Crescent CB Lunar eggs are Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs are Gold. [Edited by Shokomon] - Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change. - We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon. - There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to: 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases. 2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases. 3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors. 4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion. 5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors. 6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up. 7) The Lunar Herald egg colors will come in a linear fashion (aka all the colors in a row.) For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Silver --> Gold --> Repeat. 8) The Lunar Herald eggs colors will NOT come in a linear fashion, and there are possible periods where a color or two do not show up for extended periods of time, despite the other colors showing up. For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Bronze --> Gold --> Silver --> Bronze --> Continue. - Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate. - The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6. - The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2, 6, and 8. - There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to: 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases. 2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases. 3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at most a week. 4) The DC Lunar cycles are NOT equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phases may last longer or shorter than a week.- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on. - As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2. - As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in alignment with Earth's, supporting Theory 4. - LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults. - TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size. --- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.) - LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers. - LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion. - LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults! - LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the Bronze avatar once we start getting adults. --- She has given us the Bronze Herald Avatar! And now the Indigo Lunar Herald Avatar! - LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeed have metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty. - LadyLyzar does not call the "blue" Lunar eggs "Indigos;" She just states that the "blues" are indigo in color as indigo is her favorite color, which makes sense as the "blue" lunar was meant to be her Alt. She later has reaffirmed this, stating that there is no official name for the "blue" Lunars and that they really are just indigo in color as they were to be her alt were these dragons to be chosen as prize dragons. -LadyLyzar states that the element for the Lunar Heralds had not been planned out, and that she would put them as "Light" element. - LadyLyzar states that the Lunar Heralds were retooled after the Shimmers were chosen for prizes, and while the moon phases work a little different than she expected, it's not complicated, and we will figure it out eventually. She won't tell us anything about the mechanic though. - The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this: Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. - To this: Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune. Threads! - Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming - DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories - What's Your Favourite Lunar Herald?, Vote away! Documents! - DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking - Valkemare Lunar Calender And, I think that's it for the summary. Edit: Adding the really long and really nice calender! Edited September 19, 2015 by Shokomon Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Awww, Gold again? Well...actually that's not too bad for me. I need some more Gold males for the lineage project I'm planning with them (Gold x Bronze). Hopefully I can catch one...I just saw one in the Volcano and missed it. Oh well, I caught a Xeno in the Desert to make up for it. I don't remember if I said this in the first post I made in this thread, so I'll say it now: the Lunars are beautiful. Thank you, LadyLyzar. I'm glad that even though these were suppose to be prizes, they were released in cave. Here's a handy calendar through the end of the year, assuming the leading hypothesis is correct. --snipped for length-- And for those super long-term planners among you, here's a calendar through 2018. Thank you for that calendar. I am bookmarking that for future reference. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Missed the golds the first time around so personally? I'm so glad I got another chance without much waiting. Grabbed two eggs and now I can relax until the silvers come in. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Got enough golds to get my full set of males, but was tricky getting them. Luckily they are more populous in volcano. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Just grabbed a third gold and locked myself, but I missed a BSA Pink (I have enough though so it's all good) and a Red Dorsal (tracked it afterwards), aw. Happy with the youngsters I have, though. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Got one Gold Lunar Herald to replace a refusal... and saw a CB GOLD (couldn't click fast enough to catch it, though!) Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Changed my mind and decided to go after an eighth cb gold lunar so I can do a 5th gen of the lineage I have in mind. Easier said than done, though. =p Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Got my four for a trade. Not easy to get em tho. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 When people keep saying CB Gold in this thread I automatically assume they missed a zillion CB Gold Metallics, even though they probably mean CB Golden Lunars @_@ Hopefully the silvers drop sooner or later because "CB Gold" can apply to two things Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Soooo, do we know yet whether or not the Lunars will become officially metallics, or not?? Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Not havin' any luck catching the golds again. I'm glad I at least got my f/m CB pair... Does anyone have any spare CB/bred eggs? I need 3 for freezing. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Not havin' any luck catching the golds again. I'm glad I at least got my f/m CB pair... Does anyone have any spare CB/bred eggs? I need 3 for freezing. Check your pm!!! Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Soooo, do we know yet whether or not the Lunars will become officially metallics, or not?? Naruhina, their scales are indeed metallic. However, I don't intend for that to "classify" them in any way. I don't define them as being metallics similar to Golds, etc. Since they were originally designed as Prizes, I wanted them to be all shiny and stuff - what better than reflective metal and rainbows together? Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Firstly I can't WAIT til the silvers drop so that I can get me trio in order to complete me collection of the lunars. Secondly I want to be wishing ye all a VERY happy ITLAPD (ITLAPD = International Talk Like A Pirate Day) Share this post Link to post
Posted September 19, 2015 Firstly I can't WAIT til the silvers drop so that I can get me trio in order to complete me collection of the lunars. Secondly I want to be wishing ye all a VERY happy ITLAPD (ITLAPD = International Talk Like A Pirate Day) Arrrr Silvarrrrrrrrrs Well, I'm happy we had a bronze drop again, cuz I didn't catch them the first time around. And now golds <33 Share this post Link to post
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