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So far, the most recent theory is sticking! Are gold eggs form the cave confirmed as well?

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Yeah, they are gold. But they are not flooding. I hope the silvers will.

Well... considering that they are not a "new" release, I wouldn't have expected differently...

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Well... considering that they are not a "new" release, I wouldn't have expected differently...

The Bronzes dropped a lot more often than the Golds are doing, though.

 

EDIT: 276 :3.

Edited by moonstone981

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Definitely not dropping like the bronzes did. Not well at all.

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Yep gold egg bred releasing it now. biggrin.gif

Edited by Laryal

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The Bronzes dropped a lot more often than the Golds are doing, though.

 

EDIT: 276 :3.

Maybe not a flood but they are dropping quite nicely at the 5 minutes shuffles. I've 6 windows (one per biome) on my desktop and I keep F5 them sequentially. Furthermore, it is only 5ish on Pacific time, we can't exclude that TJ will start another flood later. It is not Sunday today, people have full-time jobs smile.gif

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I guess at least I've been able to catch some awesome things in the AP with this release taking so long, lol.

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PHASE CHANGE!!! Aurax is now WAXING GIBBOUS and Cirion is now NEW MOON!

COLOR CHANGE! EGGS ARE NOW GOLD!!

- Edit: Both moons skip the quarter phases! And New moon, not full moon for Cirion. Doh!

- Moon Watch Doc will be updated once my gmail agrees with me.

- Check the DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories Thread for speculation when Silvers are going to come (as well as explanations why we think that way)!

- State your breeding plans and funny names for the Lunar Heralds in the Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming Thread!

- Please vote for your favorite Lunar Herald color on the  What's Your Favourite Lunar Herald?, Vote away! smile.gif Thread!

- Please tell me if I missed anything!

 

A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS:

(For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates)

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- We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons!

- PHASE CHANGE! Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon) and Cirion (Blue Moon) are now in the WaXing Gibbous and New moon phases respectively.

- COLOR CHANGE! Everyone is now catching Gold eggs in the Cave!

- COLOR CHANGE! We have Adult dragons, and we are now breeding Gold Lunar eggs!!

- The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.)

- So far, Gold, Bronze, and Blue/Indigo eggs have dropped in the Cave! Bronze and Blue/Indigo eggs have been bred.

 

- Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post.

- There is currently no repeat flood for Gold eggs. As such, it will be more difficult to catch Gold eggs, since other eggs have already mixed in. This is to be expected because Golds already had their flood earlier in the release.

 

- No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when.

- That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself.

 

- IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post.

- This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under.

 

- The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Cycle Post taken and modified from TJ's post)

 

--- Based on current data, it seems that Cirion's phases change faster than Aurax's.

----- Aurax takes 8 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon and 7 days to move from WaXing Crescent to Waxing Gibbous.

----- Cirion takes 4 days to move from WaXing Gibbous to Full Moon, 3 days to move from WaNing Gibbous to WaNing Crescent, and 4 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon.

----- Aurax's New Moon is 24 hours long.

----- Cirion's Full Moon is 24 hours long. New Moon Phase is unconfirmed to be 24 hours long.

----- Cirion and Aurax both skip the First Quarter and Last Quarter Phases.

 

Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC.

Aurax: Waning Gibbous

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent*

Cirion: New*

CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze.

- The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours.

* = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too.

 

Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 05, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent**

Cirion: Waxing Crescent**

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

** Exact time of change Unknown.

 

Sep 05, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 05, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 09, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 09, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sep 10, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 10, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sept 13, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 13, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Blue/Indigo to Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Blue/Indigo to Bronze.

- The Blue/Indigo egg drop lasted about 8 days.

 

Sep 14, 2015 starting @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 17, 2015 @ 7:59 EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 17, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Gold.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

[Edited by Shokomon]

- Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change.

- We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon.

 

- There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases.

2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases.

3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors.

4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion.

5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors.

6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up.

7) The Lunar Herald egg colors will come in a linear fashion (aka all the colors in a row.) For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Silver --> Gold --> Repeat.

8) The Lunar Herald eggs colors will NOT come in a linear fashion, and there are possible periods where a color or two do not show up for extended periods of time, despite the other colors showing up. For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Bronze --> Gold --> Silver --> Bronze --> Continue.

- Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate.

- The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6.

- The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2, 6, and 8.

 

- There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases.

2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases.

3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at  most a week.

4) The DC Lunar cycles are NOT equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phases may last longer or shorter than a week.

- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on.

- As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2.

- As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in alignment with Earth's, supporting Theory 4.

 

- LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults.

- TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size.

--- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.)

- LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers.

- LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion.

- LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults!

- LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the Bronze avatar once we start getting adults.

--- She has given us the Bronze Herald Avatar! And now the Indigo Lunar Herald Avatar!

- LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeed have metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty.

- LadyLyzar does not call the "blue" Lunar eggs "Indigos;" She just states that the "blues" are indigo in color as indigo is her favorite color, which makes sense as the "blue" lunar was meant to be her Alt. She later has reaffirmed this, stating that there is no official name for the "blue" Lunars and that they really are just indigo in color as they were to be her alt were these dragons to be chosen as prize dragons.

-LadyLyzar states that the element for the Lunar Heralds had not been planned out, and that she would put them as "Light" element.

- LadyLyzar states that the Lunar Heralds were retooled after the Shimmers were chosen for prizes, and while the moon phases work a little different than she expected, it's not complicated, and we will figure it out eventually. She won't tell us anything about the mechanic though.

 

- The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced.

- To this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune.

Threads!

- Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming

- DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories

-  What's Your Favourite Lunar Herald?, Vote away! smile.gif

 

Documents!

- DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking

 

And, I think that's it for the summary.

 

Note: I visually confirmed CB gold lunar eggs dropping, but a confirmation post would be nice.

Edited by Shokomon

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I don't mind the way the release is as far as timing. I can do other things in between. but why oh why can they not drop in the alpine as well as desert? My major source of frustration.

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I read, I think, that Silver's should drop next week? Or did I imagine I read that

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I don't mind the way the release is as far as timing.  I can do other things in between.  but why oh why can they not drop in the alpine as well as desert?  My major source of frustration.

They do. They drop in the Alpine, Desert and Volcano. There just generally have not been as many eggs dropped, so maybe you didn't see them when they did drop in Alpine, or they were taken quickly.

I myself have seen at least one egg in Alpine.

 

  I read, I think, that Silver's should drop next week? Or did I imagine I read that

Yes, according to the predictions, the silver will.

Edited by moonstone981

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Am I allowed to post another user's egg, and take it down after you confirm?

I would say PM me. Though I really want the post, so I can put a link into the doc as proof, so it would be best if people state that they have.

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The Bronzes dropped a lot more often than the Golds are doing, though.

 

EDIT: 276 :3.

We need to get to page 349 to beat the Festival of the Eggs news thread back in 2010. wink.gif

 

And go figure, can't catch any gold lunar eggs anyway. xd.png Oh well, not bothered.

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I would say PM me. Though I really want the post, so I can put a link into the doc as proof, so it would be best if people state that they have.

Done.

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They do. They drop in the Alpine, Desert and Volcano. There just generally have not been as many eggs dropped, so maybe you didn't see them when they did drop in Alpine, or they were taken quickly.

I myself have seen at least one egg in Alpine.

I have seen only 1 or 2 in Alpine, to about 50-60 in either Desert and Volcano.

 

They may indeed be dropping, but the ratios make them more rare in Alpine.

 

Remember when you couldn't find green opals for ages? People were trading metals for them, for Pete's sake! Then this year it went the other way, couldn't find the blues.

 

I was haunting Alpine for hours on end, except for the browns, because I want to do some copper breeding. I'll probably cancel that now. Hopefully at some point they won't be so darned rare in Alpine.

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Lol, I missed lots but caught two quite quickly in Desert, went to Volcano, lag there, plus my wireless kept going to half-level and taking forever, also with a return to lag right before the 5-mnute on top of that, but I still finally caught two there. They're Dropping, only who has room to take eggs to get things moving?

 

Although I finger-reflexed on a polished stone I had no intention of taking TWICE, being in Volcano and not being all that fond of the Reds, so will have to try Alpine 5 or more hours later, if I'm awake at that point; ridiculously tired and it's not even 8 PM here yet, lol. But there are merely some very fast people taking the Golds that turn up at various points, as they do, in reasonable numbers - we who have average connections may have to wait until the fastest are full for our moments, although they do eventually come, lol.

 

 

Edit: good point, daba555 - Alpine has been/is typically the heaviest-hunted by a long shot; dunno if I'll bother there as it was previously emptied of dragons so many times that the proportions there, if separate, would be lower and even if not, are likely being taken too fast for many of us with slower refreshes to even see them flying by.

 

 

Good heavens, the squabble of geese hanging out at the nearby duck-pond sound like they're having a wild party or something, very loud conversation going on and I'd swear that they're yelling to be heard. Must be arguing about when to head south and who put away the maps where last time around...

Edited by Syphoneira

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Lol, I missed lots but caught two quite quickly in Desert, went to Volcano, lag there, plus my wireless kept going to half-level and taking forever, also with a return to lag right before the 5-mnute on top of that, but I still finally caught two there. They're Dropping, only who has room to take eggs to get things moving?

 

Although I finger-reflexed on a polished stone I had no intention of taking TWICE, being in Volcano and not being all that fond of the Reds, so will have to try Alpine 5 or more hours later, if I'm awake at that point; ridiculously tired and it's not even 8 PM here yet, lol. But there are merely some very fast people taking the Golds that turn up at various points, as they do, in reasonable numbers - we who have average connections may have to wait until the fastest are full for our moments, although they do eventually come, lol.

I have not seen a more perfect way to describe probably most people's scenario these weeks XDDD, from the lag to the finger-reflex to the tired to the waiting until everyone has had their fill lololol.

Edited by moonstone981

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Add my name to the miss-click club in trying to catch a Lunar...though if anyone saw and grabbed any Lunar eggs in the Alpine biome because of my miss-clicks, congratulations.

 

Just to check/confirm - eggs are Gold right now, yes?

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Add my name to the miss-click club in trying to catch a Lunar...though if anyone saw and grabbed any Lunar eggs in the Alpine biome because of my miss-clicks, congratulations.

 

Just to check/confirm - eggs are Gold right now, yes?

 

 

Yes indeedy! biggrin.gif

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Maybe not a flood but they are dropping quite nicely at the 5 minutes shuffles.

No, not really.

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missclicked........A XENOWYRM!

doncha just love when that kinda thing happens

Edited by blockEdragon

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