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2015-08-29 - August Release

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Bump for the day.

- Eggs are still gold.

- Millie-Azure has made a New Valkemare Lunar Calender, based on current data, that predicts the Lunar Egg Herald results all the way to 2018! THANK THIS PERSON!

- Check the DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories Thread for speculation when Silvers are going to come (as well as explanations why we think that way)! We speculate that the Silver Lunars will come on Monday, September 21, 2015 @ 8:00 Pm EST/DragonCave time.

- State your breeding plans and funny names for the Lunar Heralds in the Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming Thread!

- Please vote for your favorite Lunar Herald color on the  What's Your Favourite Lunar Herald?, Vote away! smile.gif Thread!

- Please tell me if I missed anything!

 

A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS:

(For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates)

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- We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons!

- Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon) and Cirion (Blue Moon) are still in the WaXing Gibbous and WaXing Crescent phases respectively.

- Everyone is still catching Gold eggs in the Cave!

- We have Adult dragons, and we are now breeding Gold Lunar eggs!!

- The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.)

- So far, Gold, Bronze, and Blue/Indigo eggs have dropped in the Cave! Bronze and Blue/Indigo eggs have been bred.

 

- Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post.

- There is currently no repeat flood for Gold eggs. As such, it will be more difficult to catch Gold eggs, since other eggs have already mixed in. This is to be expected because Golds already had their flood earlier in the release.

 

- No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when.

- That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself.

 

- IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post.

- This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under.

 

- The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Cycle Post taken and modified from TJ's post)

 

 

--- Based on current data, it seems that Cirion's phases change faster than Aurax's.

----- Aurax takes 8 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon and 7 days to move from WaXing Crescent to Waxing Gibbous.

----- Cirion takes 4 days to move from WaXing Gibbous to Full Moon, 3 days to move from WaNing Gibbous to WaNing Crescent, and 4 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon.

----- Aurax's New Moon is 24 hours long.

----- Cirion's Full Moon and New Moon phases are confirmed to be 24 hours long.

----- Cirion and Aurax both skip the First Quarter and Last Quarter Phases.

----- !!! Cirion's cycle is almost completely confirmed!

 

Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC.

Aurax: Waning Gibbous

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent*

Cirion: New*

CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze.

- The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours.

* = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too.

 

Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 05, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent**

Cirion: Waxing Crescent**

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

** Exact time of change Unknown.

 

Sep 05, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 05, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 09, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 09, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sep 10, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 10, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sept 13, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 13, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Blue/Indigo to Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Blue/Indigo to Bronze.

- The Blue/Indigo egg drop lasted about 8 days.

 

Sep 14, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 17, 2015 @ 7:59 EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 17, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Gold.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 18, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 18, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: Waxing Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs are Gold.

[Edited by Shokomon]

- Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change.

- We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon.

 

- There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases.

2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases.

3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors.

4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion.

5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors.

6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up.

7) The Lunar Herald egg colors will come in a linear fashion (aka all the colors in a row.) For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Silver --> Gold --> Repeat.

8) The Lunar Herald eggs colors will NOT come in a linear fashion, and there are possible periods where a color or two do not show up for extended periods of time, despite the other colors showing up. For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Bronze --> Gold --> Silver --> Bronze --> Continue.

- Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate.

- The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6.

- The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2, 6, and 8.

 

- There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases.

2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases.

3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at  most a week.

4) The DC Lunar cycles are NOT equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phases may last longer or shorter than a week.

- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on.

- As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2.

- As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in alignment with Earth's, supporting Theory 4.

 

- LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults.

- TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size.

--- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.)

- LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers.

- LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion.

- LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults!

- LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the Bronze avatar once we start getting adults.

--- She has given us the Bronze Herald Avatar! And now the Indigo Lunar Herald Avatar!

- LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeed have metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty.

- LadyLyzar does not call the "blue" Lunar eggs "Indigos;" She just states that the "blues" are indigo in color as indigo is her favorite color, which makes sense as the "blue" lunar was meant to be her Alt. She later has reaffirmed this, stating that there is no official name for the "blue" Lunars and that they really are just indigo in color as they were to be her alt were these dragons to be chosen as prize dragons.

-LadyLyzar states that the element for the Lunar Heralds had not been planned out, and that she would put them as "Light" element.

- LadyLyzar states that the Lunar Heralds were retooled after the Shimmers were chosen for prizes, and while the moon phases work a little different than she expected, it's not complicated, and we will figure it out eventually. She won't tell us anything about the mechanic though.

 

- The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced.

- To this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune.

Threads!

- Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming

- DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories

-  What's Your Favourite Lunar Herald?, Vote away! smile.gif

 

Documents!

- DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking

- Valkemare Lunar Calender

 

And, I think that's it for the summary.

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My only hope that TJ won't mix the silver moon EGGY with other colors when it drops! rolleyes.gif

 

I never thought about that one, but I am holding my breath about the lunar silvers coming out. The other 3 colors were so easy and so plentiful, and I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just waiting for some kind of strange twist to happen with the lunar silvers. Dropping all 4 colors would be some wild twist. ohmy.gif

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Dropping all 4 colors would be some wild twist.  ohmy.gif

I doubt there can be more than one colour at the time since the moons are the same all over Valkemare.

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That AWFUL, GUTWRENCHING FEELING of missing out on an Alpine Xenowyrm because you were eGGLOCKED WITH GOLDEN LUNAR HERALDS. the anger and agony i feel in this moment are REAL, people. i feel scorned.

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I've grabbed two CB Xenos today while hunting for Lunars blink.gif Is my luck and life finally turning around? xd.png

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I just wish I could find an Alpine CB Gold Lunar. xd.png

 

I have a trade up now, that you'll get 2 Bronze CB Lunars (just hatched too and never gendered either) for a Alpine CB Gold Lunar. rolleyes.gif

 

Talkin' about Mana's, I just went to the Volcano 3 minutes ago and found a Volcano Xeno egg, Yay. Now back to hunting for Lunars.

 

Please edit your post unless it's been long enough to bump a topic or if you are quoting a bunch of people.

Edited by SockPuppet Strangler

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Well, my scroll is going to be free and I just dropped a bunch of nicely-lineaged Coppers, Xenos and Reds to the AP which'll hopefully help keep people happy during the mad rush for the silver Lunars. biggrin.gif

 

That will make it hard for me to decide where to stalk lol! I haven't found a copper yet!!

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I still kinda hope that they will be a mix of eggs on days where both moons are >50% illuminated (Gibbous or Full), and at least one moon is Full.

 

At that point, both moons provide enough light to give the Lunar eggs, but the moon that is full gives a little more light than the other. At that time, there could be a small chance of getting an egg corresponding to that full moon.

 

Don't know if it's possible though. The way Aurax's and Cirion's cycles are lining up currently, many of the possible combination of moon phases aren't possible... Sigh. Still want it though.

 

Edit: Typos and adding sentences.

Edited by Shokomon

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I still kinda hope that they will be a mix of eggs on days where both moons are >50% illuminated (Gibbous or Full), and at least one moon is Full.

 

At that point, both moons provide enough light to give the Lunar eggs, but the moon that is full gives a little more light than the other. At that time, there could be a small chance of getting an egg corresponding to that full moon.

 

Don't know if it's possible though. The way Aurax's and Cirion's cycles are lining up currently, many of the possible combination of moon phases aren't possible... Sigh. Still want it though.

 

Edit: Typos and adding sentences.

That just can't happen the way things are currently set up unfortunately. It's already been clearly shown that one moon being bright and brighter than the other means that moon's color is what shows up, and that bronzes show up when both moons are relatively dim. Honestly I prefer it that way too - it's clear and consistent and there's no chance of getting a color you weren't expecting and may not want. Right now if you want a gold you want until Aurax is dominant in the sky, period. That predictability and consistency makes sense for a lunar cycle. IMO the conditions you are describing are simply going to be the silver drop time and nothing else and it's better that way. Otherwise, think of it - you could be hunting silvers and get a gold or blue just because Aurax or Cirion happened to be a bit larger!

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Derp. Saw a copper in the alpine, missed it because I was all 'what kind of egg is that?' due to having forgotten what the message was. xd.png

 

 

Then went to desert and caught two gold lunars and a CB red. xd.png The red was to move the eggs a bit more but I always keep reds.

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Yay my first two Bronze Lunars, a correct-gender pair, matured into adults, and my fifth one hatched, as did my Pyralspite. My third Bronze Lunar's in the gendered stage, and my fourth is ungendered.

 

^and same I always keep B.S.A. Pinks and Reds, and sometimes Purples.

 

(Editted to correct numbers)

Edited by moonstone981

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The Gold Lunars are harder to get this time around - they're not falling as generously as they did.

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Yes, they're dropping, mainly in the Desert and Volcano biomes, but very thinly and very briefly.

On my own positive note, three of my eggs will hatch tomorrow!

 

EDIT: it's almost midnight, for y'all who haven't had good luck, try at midnight. Good luck.

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I'm happy with all the gold Lunar's I've picked up. I keep seeing people mentioning picking up Xenowyrms, I still haven't even seen a Xenowyrm since they were released, never mind had a chance to catch one. I'm hoping the Lunars are rare enough I can make trades for some Xenos later on.

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Managed to complete my scroll goal (CB 10 Males/10 Females) for the Golds and Blues, and just need a bit more Bronze when they cycle back around. Can't wait for the Silvers! I'll be sure to keep enough space open, so hopefully I can catch them without failing miserably. X'D

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I still kinda hope that they will be a mix of eggs on days where both moons are >50% illuminated (Gibbous or Full), and at least one moon is Full.

 

At that point, both moons provide enough light to give the Lunar eggs, but the moon that is full gives a little more light than the other. At that time, there could be a small chance of getting an egg corresponding to that full moon.

 

Don't know if it's possible though. The way Aurax's and Cirion's cycles are lining up currently, many of the possible combination of moon phases aren't possible... Sigh. Still want it though.

 

Edit: Typos and adding sentences.

I'm sorry to disappoint you but if the most credible theory is right (and I must say that I think it is) there is no way that there will be a mix of eggs. Actually, notwithstanding disappointments, on the long run that would be great because we would know what to expect. And the calendars already published, thanks to some brilliant minds, will be all we need to know what to expect when breeding or hunting in the biomes.

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Oh man, did I really manage to miss the release of easily the prettiest dragons I've seen? oAo" Seems like I did, so I'll just have to keep looking for them, even though I strongly believe it will be fairly difficult at this point... >u>"

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Looking forward to seeing if Monday (after 8pm) is the day the Silvers drop! If the theory is right, it'll make catching the colors that we need super easy from here on out biggrin.gif

 

Hooray for a release that just keeps on surprising us!

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So are we expecting silvers Monday or Tuesday? If it's tomorrow I'm in trouble...

8PM Cave Time Tomorrow, Monday, September 21st, 2015!

 

Keep track of the full calendar via the link in my signature!

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