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2015-08-29 - August Release

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I need 4 bred silvers, and then I'll have my hatchie goals. And my adult goals. Which means I'll probably start hoarding my favorites, the golds, just like I did once I had all my Xenowyrm goals met. Just keep getting more of my favorite kind.

 

I really do like the silvers, though. And the blues. .... I may be unsure about which color is actually my favorite.

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Bump for the night, because the day was too busy.

- Eggs are still silver. We now have ALL THE LUNAR COLORS!!!!

- Millie-Azure has made a New Valkemare Lunar Calender, based on current data, that predicts the Lunar Egg Herald results all the way to 2020!

- Check the DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories Thread for the current theory on how the Lunar Egg Colors and Moon Phases work! So far, we have been correct!

- State your breeding plans and funny names for the Lunar Heralds in the Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming Thread!

- Please vote for your favorite Lunar Herald color on the  What's Your Favourite Lunar Herald?, Vote away! smile.gif Thread!

- Please tell me if I missed anything!

 

A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS:

(For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates)

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- We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons!

- Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon) and Cirion (Blue Moon) are still both in the WaXing Gibbous phase.

- Everyone is still catching Silver eggs in the Cave!

- We have Adult dragons, and we are breeding Silver Lunar eggs!!

- The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.)

- All of the Lunar Herald colors (Gold, BronzeBlue/Indigo, and Silver) have dropped in the Cave! And all the Lunar Herald colors, (Bronze, Blue/Indigo, Gold, and Silver) have been bred.

 

- Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post.

- As of Sept 21, 2015, 9:00PM, the Silver Lunars began flooding!! Hurry and grab your Silvers!! The flood has dissipated now.

 

- No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when.

- That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself.

 

- IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post.

- This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under.

 

- The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Cycle Post taken and modified from TJ's post)

 

--- Based on current data, it seems that Cirion's phases change faster than Aurax's.

----- Aurax takes 8 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon and 7 days to move from WaXing Crescent to Waxing Gibbous.

----- Cirion takes 4 days to move from WaXing Gibbous to Full Moon, 3 days to move from WaNing Gibbous to WaNing Crescent, 4 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon, and 3 days to move from WaXing Crescent to WaXing Gibbous.

----- Aurax's New Moon is 24 hours long.

----- Cirion's Full Moon and New Moon phases are confirmed to be 24 hours long.

----- Cirion and Aurax both skip the First Quarter and Last Quarter Phases.

----- !!! Cirion's cycle is completely confirmed!

 

Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC.

Aurax: Waning Gibbous

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent*

Cirion: New*

CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze.

- The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours.

* = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too.

 

Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 05, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent**

Cirion: Waxing Crescent**

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

** Exact time of change Unknown.

 

Sep 05, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 05, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 09, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 09, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sep 10, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 10, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sept 13, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 13, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Blue/Indigo to Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Blue/Indigo to Bronze.

- The Blue/Indigo egg drop lasted about 8 days.

 

Sep 14, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 17, 2015 @ 7:59 EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 17, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Gold.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 18, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 18, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC to Sep 21, 2015 @7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: Waxing Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold, and Bred Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 21, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Gold to Silver, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Gold to Silver.

- The Gold egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 22, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Gibbous

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Silver, and Bred Lunar eggs are Silver.

[Edited by Shokomon]

- Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change.

- We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon.

 

- There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases.

2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases.

3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors.

4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion.

5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors.

6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up.

7) The Lunar Herald egg colors will come in a linear fashion (aka all the colors in a row.) For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Silver --> Gold --> Repeat.

8) The Lunar Herald eggs colors will NOT come in a linear fashion, and there are possible periods where a color or two do not show up for extended periods of time, despite the other colors showing up. For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Bronze --> Gold --> Silver --> Bronze --> Continue.

- Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate.

- The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6.

- The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2, 6, and 8.

 

- There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases.

2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases.

3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at  most a week.

4) The DC Lunar cycles are NOT equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phases may last longer or shorter than a week.

- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on.

- As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2.

- As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in alignment with Earth's, supporting Theory 4.

 

- LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults.

- TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size.

--- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.)

- LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers.

- LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion.

- LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults!

- LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the Bronze avatar once we start getting adults.

--- She has given us the Bronze Herald Avatar! And now the Indigo Lunar Herald Avatar!

- LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeed have metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty.

- LadyLyzar does not call the "blue" Lunar eggs "Indigos;" She just states that the "blues" are indigo in color as indigo is her favorite color, which makes sense as the "blue" lunar was meant to be her Alt. She later has reaffirmed this, stating that there is no official name for the "blue" Lunars and that they really are just indigo in color as they were to be her alt were these dragons to be chosen as prize dragons.

-LadyLyzar states that the element for the Lunar Heralds had not been planned out, and that she would put them as "Light" element.

- LadyLyzar states that the Lunar Heralds were retooled after the Shimmers were chosen for prizes, and while the moon phases work a little different than she expected, it's not complicated, and we will figure it out eventually. She won't tell us anything about the mechanic though.

 

- The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced.

- To this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune.

Threads!

- Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming

- DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories

-  What's Your Favourite Lunar Herald?, Vote away! smile.gif

 

Documents!

- DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking

- Valkemare Lunar Calender

 

And, I think that's it for the summary.

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I have thanked TJ and Lady Lyzar for this most interesting release and the lovely new dragon. I am not sure, though, that I ever thanked Shokomon and all the others who worked so hard to figure out the moons' phases and when we could expect each new color of Lunar Herald. I had neither the time or the energy to work all that out myself!

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I have thanked TJ and Lady Lyzar for this most interesting release and the lovely new dragon. I am not sure, though, that I ever thanked Shokomon and all the others who worked so hard to figure out the moons' phases and when we could expect each new color of Lunar Herald. I had neither the time or the energy to work all that out myself!

 

 

 

May I second that?

 

We'd have been doomed without all of this help from all of these people who've variously worked things out and explained their theories, especially regarding that painstaking collection and re-posting of carefully updated material by Shokomon. wub.gif

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I have thanked TJ and Lady Lyzar for this most interesting release and the lovely new dragon. I am not sure, though, that I ever thanked Shokomon and all the others who worked so hard to figure out the moons' phases and when we could expect each new color of Lunar Herald. I had neither the time or the energy to work all that out myself!

They have done stellar (or should be lunar) work and made things much easier for the rest of us. I add my thanks!

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Please may I also add my giant THANKS to artist and astrologers alike for

their exceptional work, and sharing it with all of us!

 

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Just caught my first Desert SL egg for my second round ^.^

 

EDIT: and my third gold just grew up!

Edited by moonstone981

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I only ever caught five golds. The two blues on my scroll are bred. I haven't had ANY luck with trying to catch the other colors... I might have to try trading... *sighs*

 

Only having access via mobile doesn't help at all

Edited by DragonNeko

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I have thanked TJ and Lady Lyzar for this most interesting release and the lovely new dragon. I am not sure, though, that I ever thanked Shokomon and all the others who worked so hard to figure out the moons' phases and when we could expect each new color of Lunar Herald. I had neither the time or the energy to work all that out myself!

Let me add my thanks to you all also.

 

Thank you for an amazing release.

 

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This has been a fun release. Thanks to all those involved.

 

 

3 more silver lunars hatched and I grabbed 3 more.

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Man, all you guys have so many of these. I have a paltry 36 - 35 CB and one bred.

 

8 golds, 9 bronze, 8 blue, 11 silver.

I'm with you, lol. I have 31, which is more than I thought I had, actually.

 

I'm impressed by everyone grabbing so many. =o

 

I'm going to end up with around 40, I think, if I just do 10 of each.

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I loved it, besides being viewbombed by someone. two of mine died sad.gif but I had an iou of them thankfully. Though one of my hatchlings hit 13k+ views the others anywhere from 7k and up before I fogged them and hid my scroll

 

It was a fighter, a Black stripe little one is a fighter though.

 

 

I did love this release though, it was fun

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Absolutely loved this release. I´m also such a sucker for anything related to the moon, and my favorite dragon has been the Royal Blue for ages, what with the blue-and-silver and "shines in the moonlight" and all. The Blue Lunar Heralds and the Silver Lunar Heralds are probably the ones going to fill up my scroll!

 

I´m low on the hoarding so far: only 28, but they are LOVELY. :-D

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I have only 24 total but this release has been awesome! Silvers and indigoes are my favourites for now <3333

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As everyone else I'd like to say: thank you TJ, LadyLyzar, Shokomon and everyone who took part in this release by either creating and introducing them or helping us figure out how the phases of the Valkemare moons work. You are all amazing people. wub.gif

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Thank you TJ, LadyLyzar, Shokomon and everyone for your hard work. thumbs_up.pngthumbs_up.png

I have 10 golds, 10 bronzes, 11 indigos and 2 silvers so far. I'm not done with the silvers yet (and maybe need 1 more indigo to even it out). laugh.gif

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All my eggs from first round hatched!

 

EDIT: I already have 2/3 of my second round: two from Volcano and two from Desert

 

 

(Just had a thought so not making a thread for it, it's just a small thought: it would be cool to have an app for DC and DCF)

Edited by moonstone981

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All but 2 of mine have grown to Stage 2 hatchies with wings. Goodness, they are absolutely gorgeous!

 

 

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Thank you everyone who helped with making this release! I love lunars, every color is amazing, I hope I'll catch as many silvers as I can smile.gif

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I only ever caught five golds. The two blues on my scroll are bred. I haven't had ANY luck with trying to catch the other colors... I might have to try trading... *sighs*

 

Only having access via mobile doesn't help at all

Check your PMs wink.gif

 

My firsr four Silvers could gender at any moment now^^

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