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Are we getting something other than brown now that the moons are out of phase?

The moons being in synch was a glitch, but we've always been getting the correct eggs. And we're still getting brown.

 

Aurax waning gibbous, Cirion waning crescent = Gold

Aurax waning crescent, Cirion waxing crescent = Brown

Aurax waxing crescent, Cirion waxing gibbous = unknown

Aurax waxing gibbous, Cirion waning gibbous = unknown

 

My theory is that the blue Lunar Heralds will appear with Cirion's waxing gibbous phase (the next one), as Cirion is the blue moon and will be fuller than Aurax for the whole phase. I think silver Lunar Heralds will come with the waxing and waning gibbous combination, as that will be when the sky is at its brightest, when they're both ~75% full.

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The moons being in synch was a glitch, but we've always been getting the correct eggs. And we're still getting brown.

 

Aurax waning gibbous, Cirion waning crescent = Gold

Aurax waning crescent, Cirion waxing crescent = Brown

Aurax waxing crescent, Cirion waxing gibbous = unknown

Aurax waxing gibbous, Cirion waning gibbous = unknown

 

My theory is that the blue Lunar Heralds will appear with Cirion's waxing gibbous phase (the next one), as Cirion is the blue moon and will be fuller than Aurax for the whole phase. I think silver Lunar Heralds will come with the waxing and waning gibbous combination, as that will be when the sky is at its brightest, when they're both ~75% full.

That seems logical. It's cool to see that the moons are working in tandem to produce colour (probably). That makes sense. I just hope we don't have to wait for the one day when Aurax is full for silver.

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Not knowing when the next color is going to show up, coupled with all the wonderful low-time eggs in the AP, is causing me some serious angst. I'm only six growing things away from a complete scroll lock and I'm paranoid that I won't have room for the new ones when they show up. I hope it's blue next--those are my favorites. I also hope it's tonight, so I won't have to resist the lure of the AP much longer laugh.gif

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I'm trying to hatch the dragon egg so I can get a new lunar heralds.

 

edited to add: If there is a new color which place is it going to be in. I think blue is coast and silver is alpine

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If there is a new color which place is it going to be in. I think blue is coast and silver is alpine

They are all in the same biomes that we already see. All colours will be found in alpine, volcano and desert - the colour depends on the moon phase, not the biome. As TJ said in the first post on this thread.

 

edited for typos and other stuff !

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Not knowing when the next color is going to show up, coupled with all the wonderful low-time eggs in the AP, is causing me some serious angst. I'm only six growing things away from a complete scroll lock and I'm paranoid that I won't have room for the new ones when they show up. I hope it's blue next--those are my favorites. I also hope it's tonight, so I won't have to resist the lure of the AP much longer  laugh.gif

OMGoodness I know right? Seriously, all those nice low time eggs that I want, but I don't want to fully lock my scroll with eggs and hatchies and then the new color start dropping.

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Nobody said that lunar herald has fairy wings does that mean its a fairy dragon?

 

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Since I'm bored with nothing else to do and waiting for the next color to come out... I'm off to make some banners so people can show off their love for these guys! ^.^

 

Are we expecting the moons to change today or tomorrow? Or are we still guessing?

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Are we expecting the moons to change today or tomorrow? Or are we still guessing?

Assuming that TJ didn't start the release in the middle of a phase and the changes follow a four day pattern, we should be seeing a change tonight at around 8 pm Cave time.

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Assuming that TJ didn't start the release in the middle of a phase and the changes follow a four day pattern, we should be seeing a change tonight at around 8 pm Cave time.

Those are BIG assumptions PS....

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Assuming that TJ didn't start the release in the middle of a phase and the changes follow a four day pattern, we should be seeing a change tonight at around 8 pm Cave time.

For predictability's sake, I hope you are right - but I still have an egg or 3 that will hatch late this evening - so I am hoping more that it is a midnight change-over.

 

Ultimately - after these initial releases, I hope the pattern is a 2 week-ish rotation (i.e. all four variations within 2 weeks) so that we have a chance to hoard them a bit before Halloween madness sets in. It is possible if the Golds weren't dropped mid-cycle. I wouldn't whine about a 4 week-ish rotation either because that is easier to track...it just means we wont get as many new babies before the holidays set in.

 

Hmmm... I think these beauties will pair beautifully with many of our Christmas dragons!

 

I want armies! smile.gif

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Updating the summary and waiting for the phases to change. I'm predicting at least, by 4 PM today (09/05/15) for Aurax and 4 PM 09/06/15 for Cirion, and at most, by 8 PM 09/08/15 for Aurax and 8 PM 09/09/15 for Cirion. I explain why Here.

- Bronzes are still dropping!

- As always, please tell me if I forgot anything.

 

A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS:

(For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates)

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- We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons!

- Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon), and Cirion (Blue Moon) are still in the WaNing Crescent and WaXing Crescent phases respectively.

- Everyone is still catching Bronze eggs in the Cave.

- We have Adult dragons, and we are breeding Bronze eggs.

- The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.)

- Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post.

- As of Sept 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Bronze eggs began dropping en masse! Grab 'em while you can!

 

- No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when.

- That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself.

- There is a possibility that the release started in the middle of the Waning Gibbous phase for Aurax and Waning Crescent phase for Cirion.

- IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post.

- This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under.

- The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Taken and modified from TJ's post)

Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC.

Aurax: Waning Gibbous

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent*

Cirion: New*

CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze.

- The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours.

* = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too.

 

Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent**

Cirion: Waxing crescent**

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

** Exact time of change Unknown.

[Edited by Shokomon]

- Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change.

- We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon.

 

- There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases.

2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases.

3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors.

4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion.

5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors.

6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up.

- Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate.

- The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6.

- The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2 and 6.

 

- There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases.

2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases.

3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at  most a week.

- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on.

- As of the most recent change and TJ's correctional post, the moons' phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2.

 

- LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults.

- TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size.

--- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.)

- LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers.

- LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion.

- LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults!

- LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the others later.

- LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeedhave metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty.

 

- The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced.

- To this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune.

 

Threads!

- Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming

 

Documents!

- DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking

 

And, I think that's it for the summary.

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Goldenfairy is not maturing.  sad.gif

Goldenfairy is fogged - that won't help.

 

Did you get a mentor ? I really think it would help you.

 

http://forums.dragcave.net/index.php?showtopic=57591

 

Worrying about your hatchies isn't really discussion of this topic.

 

ETA I see Ravensilver has offered to help biggrin.gif

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Nobody said that lunar herald has fairy wings does that mean its a fairy dragon?

I don't think so, the wings are just iridescent!

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Goldenfairy is not maturing. sad.gif

Kari - if you click on my name in the forum (on the left there, where the small picture is) you will come to my info page. On the right there is the option to send me a personal message. Click on the link and write to me and I will help you with your dragon hatchie. smile.gif

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I was slightly associated to fairies when I first saw the adults, especially the golden ones. So as long as you don't violate the rules of naming, you may name as you wish. Whatever floats your boat. smile.gif

Edited by *Silver Fox*

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