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10 hours ago, Lagie said:

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We reclassified 38 deaths 'under investigation' as Covid deaths so our total jumped dramatically yesterday.

Ouch.

 

It's always the same story, treatment proceeds at a snail's pace for weeks, and either you eventually get well enough for a tracheostomy and a few more weeks on the ventilator, or you die. Some of them can be with us for a month or so and never get well enough for a trache. If your really lucky you'll get two or more members of the same family in at a time or one after the other, or a pregnant woman you have to do an emergency caesarean on.

 

Bear on mind we do all this while still carrying on with our normal workload as well. Those were not the only two deaths this weekend, just the two with COVID-19.

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On 8/31/2021 at 12:54 AM, Kestra15 said:

Bear on mind we do all this while still carrying on with our normal workload as well. Those were not the only two deaths this weekend, just the two with COVID-19.

That all sounds extremely stressful. *hugs*

 

129 new cases Sunday, 114 of those on my island (positivity rate 25.6%) for a new total of 18,269 cases. 15 deaths (some new, some reclassified) take that total to 396. :(

168 people (up 4) in hospital, 13 (down 2) of those in the ICU.

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Sadly, the vaccination rates are slowing down more and more, while the infection rate is soaring.

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As of today, Wednesday, September 1, 09:45 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 497 (+30) active cases, while 10 860 (+22)  people are considered to have recovered. 376 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1416 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 11 733 (+52) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 142.2 (+1.4)  / Incidence for NRW: 120.3 (-4.6).

 

Currently 18 (+2) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (+-0) of them in intensive care, one of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 137 379 (1st jab, 65.1%) and 121 166  (2nd jab, 57.4%) vaccinations so far.

[Source: Stadt Oberhausen]

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12 hours ago, Astreya said:

Sadly, the vaccination rates are slowing down more and more, while the infection rate is soaring.

:( Stay safe!

 

67 new cases Monday, 46 of those on my island (positivity rate 28.4%) for a new total of 18,336 cases. 10 deaths (all new) take that total to 406. :(

170 people (up 2) in hospital, 12 (down 1) of those in the ICU.

 

125 new cases yesterday (Tuesday), 102 of those on my island (positivity rate 27.3%) for a new total of 18,461 cases. 2 deaths take that total to 408. :(

169 people (down 1) in hospital, 15 (up 2) of those in the ICU.

 

Our positivity rate is still insanely high.

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@Lagie

I do my very best! But of course trying to stay safe is even more important in your place! *virtual hugs*

 

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As of today, Thursday, September 2, 11:30 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 516 (+19) active cases, while 10 901 (+41)  people are considered to have recovered. 376 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1533 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 11 793 (+60) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 143.6 (+1.4)  / Incidence for NRW: 120.0 (-0.3).

 

Currently 20 (+2) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (+-0) of them in intensive care, one of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 137 534 (1st jab, 65.2%) and 121 367  (2nd jab, 57.5%) vaccinations so far.

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116 new cases yesterday (Wednesday), 104 of those on my island (positivity rate 20.8%) for a new total of 18,577 cases. 4 deaths take that total to 412. :(

167 people (down 2) in hospital, 10 (down 10) of those in the ICU.

 

Our obituary section last week was the now-usual 48 page insert, along with 12 full-size regular pages. This week appears to be the same.

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48 pages? Gods, that sounds properly apocalyptic *hugs back to all*

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The RKI publishes an overview about the efficacy of the vaccinations in their weekly situation report.  Their most recent report that was published yesterday, and it showed that there were 24 089 possible breakthrough infections* in fully vaccinated persons since Feb 1, 2021. Considering the fact that there are currently 50 754 494 people listed in the daily report as fully vaccinated, this means that the failure rate of the vaccinations is actually pretty low.

 

*) A breakthrough infection is defined as SARS-CoV-2 infection with clinical symptoms that happens at least 14 days after a full vaccination (2 doses of  Moderna, BioNTech or AstraZeneca or 1 dose of the Janssen vaccines).

 

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As of today, Friday, September 3, 09:15 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 569 (+53) active cases, while 10 937 (+36)  people are considered to have recovered. 376 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1749 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 11 882 (+89) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 155.6 (+12.0)  / Incidence for NRW: 118.9 (-1.1).

 

Currently 23 (+3) persons are treated in hospital, with 4 (+1) of them in intensive care, one of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 138 411 (1st jab, 65.6%) and 122 470  (2nd jab, 58.0%) vaccinations so far.

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@AngelsSin While I completely understand needle phobias, I'll just say that I barely even felt my two vaccine shots. I get anxious about needles as well, though maybe not as bad as you, but I looked away when they did it and barely felt anything. (Even the after-vaccine soreness wasn't anywhere near as bad as I'd expected.)

 

On 8/30/2021 at 9:54 PM, Kestra15 said:

It's always the same story, treatment proceeds at a snail's pace for weeks, and either you eventually get well enough for a tracheostomy and a few more weeks on the ventilator, or you die. Some of them can be with us for a month or so and never get well enough for a trache.

 

Showing my lack of medical knowledge here, but what does it mean to be 'well enough' for a trache? Can it not be done on the worst cases or won't work on the worst cases for some reason?

 

Two more deaths reported here. Cases are still high, at this point the only silver lining I can find is that compared to the rise in cases the number of new deaths hasn't actually been rising much. 

Stats as of yesterday afternoon:

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September 2 Covid update

 

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17 hours ago, Astreya said:

this means that the failure rate of the vaccinations is actually pretty low.

That's encouraging, I guess?

 

118 new cases yesterday (Thursday), 100 of those on my island (positivity rate 25.8%) for a new total of 18,695 cases. No additional deaths (after 5 straight days with deaths).

174 people (up 7) in hospital, 15 (up 5) of those in the ICU.

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@Lagie

It's indeed pretty encouraging, particularly as the vaccination was never considered 100% effective in the first place.

 

For the last four weeks (calendar week 31 to 34), the data of the RKI shows that full vaccination gives you

- protection from hospitalisation: approx.. 95% (age 18-59) and approx. 94% (age ≥60)

- protection from getting into ICU:  approx 97% (age 18-59) and approx.. 95% (age ≥60)

- protection from death:  approx 100% (age 18-59) and approx. 91% (age ≥60)

 

The RKI warns that the data is probably a bit imprecise as vaccination breakthroughs without symptoms likely won't get caught, and among the 397 cases of vaccination breakthroughs who died, 319 (=80%) were people aged older than 80 years, who have a higher risk of dying in general, independently from the efficacy of the vaccines. Additionally, the number of Covid19 patients aged 19-59 in ICUs is currently much higher than the number of Covid19 patients aged ≥60 as the former have a lower vaccination quota.

 

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As of today, Saturday, September 4, 10:30 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 608 (+39) active cases, while 10 949 (+12)  people are considered to have recovered. 376 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1749 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 11 933 (+51) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 161.3 (+5.7)  / Incidence for NRW: 116.6 (-2.3).

 

Currently 21 (-2) persons are treated in hospital, with 4 (+-0) of them in intensive care, none of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 138 556 (1st jab, 65.7%) and 122 585  (2nd jab, 58.1%) vaccinations so far.

 

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As of today, Sunday, September 5, 09:45 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 615 (+7) active cases, while 10 974 (+25)  people are considered to have recovered. 376 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1754 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 11 965 (+32) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 149.8 (-11.5)  / Incidence for NRW: 114.9 (-1.7).

 

Currently 27 (+6) persons are treated in hospital, with 5 (+1) of them in intensive care, none of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 138 691 (1st jab, 65.7%) and 122 779  (2nd jab, 58.2%) vaccinations so far.

 

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As of today, Monday, September 6, 10:30 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 627 (+12) active cases, while 10 989 (+15)  people are considered to have recovered. 376 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1710 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 11 992 (+27) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 153.7 (+3.9)  / Incidence for NRW: 115.0 (-0.1).

 

Currently 21 (-6) persons are treated in hospital, with 5 (+-0) of them in intensive care, none of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 138 744 (1st jab, 65.8%) and 122 860  (2nd jab, 58.2%) vaccinations so far.

 

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As of today, Tuesday, September 7, 10:30 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 591 (-36) active cases, while 11 033 (+44)  people are considered to have recovered. 376 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1594 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 12 000 (+8) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 150.3 (-3.4)  / Incidence for NRW: 113.7 (-1.3).

 

Currently 26 (+5) persons are treated in hospital, with 4 (-1) of them in intensive care, none of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 138 936 (1st jab, 65.8%) and 122 890  (2nd jab, 58.2%) vaccinations so far.

 

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As of today, Wednesday, September 8, 13:30 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 594 (+3) active cases, while 11 067 (+34)  people are considered to have recovered. 376 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1332 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 12 037 (+37) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 144.1 (-6.2)  / Incidence for NRW: 109.4 (-4.3).

 

Currently 23 (-3) persons are treated in hospital, with 4 (+-0) of them in intensive care, none of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 139 017 (1st jab, 65.9%) and 122 918  (2nd jab, 58.3%) vaccinations so far.

[Source: Stadt Oberhausen]

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17 hours ago, HeatherMarie said:

@AngelsSin

Showing my lack of medical knowledge here, but what does it mean to be 'well enough' for a trache? Can it not be done on the worst cases or won't work on the worst cases for some reason?

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September 2 Covid update

 

COVID-19 patients commonly need to be proned i.e. need to lie on their front while still on a ventilator. It is incredibly difficult, in fact near impossible, to prone a trache patient safely. Tracheostomies are not always able to handle high-pressure ventilation for any real length of time so not suitable for the weeks of ventilation COVID-19 needs, and patients would not last the procedure to put one in to begin with given how fragile their lungs and ventilation are. Tracheostomies are more for weaning people off ventilation, or for those requiring long periods of lower-intensity ventilation. COVID-19 patients need to survive the most acute phase of illness before we can even think of lightening ventilation efforts.

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72 new cases Friday, 61 of those on my island (positivity rate 23.5%) for a new total of 18,767 cases. 12 additional deaths tskes that total to 424. :(

172 people (down 2) in hospital, 20 (up 5!) of those in the ICU.

 

87 new cases yesterday (Saturday), 72 of those on my island (positivity rate 24.1%) for a new total of 18,854 cases. 15 additional deaths takes that total to 439. :(

175 people (up 1) in hospital, 21 (up 1) of those in the ICU.

 

And here are our vaccination statistics as of September 4th:

 

 

 

 


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Just over 15% of the population is fully vaccinated.

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Forgot words...

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I'm just coming in and read some of the previous posts, and what is frustrating to me is the danger that some of my 20+ Grandkids (many half-bro and sis) are in because their parents (2 of my three kids) are refusing to vaccinate or mask because they are believing that it is taking away their rights by force when it is ordered by the Gov't...  They don't see the danger that they are putting themselves, their kids and others in by refusing these simple steps...  When I try to convince them, it is with the fear that I won't be allowed to to talk to or visit the kids anymore...  They know how I feel, but it is apparently not enough...  I have been told point-blank that Covid is a falsehood and that it is only a regular illness and that there is no danger and that the numbers of deaths are a fake!  All I can do, I have done and do.  I have my vaccinations and I wear a mask when around a group or am indoors (store, etc),,,

 

Any first responders in here, I commend and thank you for what you are doing and/or trying to do...

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14 hours ago, Husky51 said:

I'm just coming in and read some of the previous posts, and what is frustrating to me is the danger that some of my 20+ Grandkids (many half-bro and sis) are in because their parents (2 of my three kids) are refusing to vaccinate or mask because they are believing that it is taking away their rights by force when it is ordered by the Gov't...  They don't see the danger that they are putting themselves, their kids and others in by refusing these simple steps...  When I try to convince them, it is with the fear that I won't be allowed to to talk to or visit the kids anymore...  They know how I feel, but it is apparently not enough...  I have been told point-blank that Covid is a falsehood and that it is only a regular illness and that there is no danger and that the numbers of deaths are a fake!

It seems that there is no way to reason with people who are believing those lies. :( I am so sorry that your family is caught up in that.

 

I think I made my son angry yesterday on Zoom by referring to stupid people who wouldn't get the vaccine. I wasn't talking about him, but he has not gotten it. He says he just hasn't "gotten around to it". His wife hasn't gotten it either because she has severe asthma and is worried about allergic reaction. Also she thinks they rushed the approvals. I really worry about her because it would almost surely kill her if she did get the virus!

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23 hours ago, Husky51 said:

When I try to convince them, it is with the fear that I won't be allowed to to talk to or visit the kids anymore... 

That sucks. :( I'm sorry you have to deal with it.

 

127 new cases yesterday (Sunday), 92 of those on my island (positivity rate 42.2%) for a new total of 18,981 cases. 7 additional deaths takes that total to 446. :(

190 people (up 15!) in hospital, 18 (down 3) of those in the ICU.

 

Sundays are usually quieter test days so the high number of positive results is quite disturbing.

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Well. It's official. We have the Delta variant. As we kind of expected, but it helps to have it confirmed.



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55 new cases Monday, 39 of those on my island (positivity rate 19%) for a new total of 19,036 cases. 7 additional deaths takes that total to 453. :(

191 people (up 1) in hospital, 15 (down 3) of those in the ICU.

 

104 new cases yesterday (Tuesday), 84 of those on my island (positivity rate 27.2%) for a new total of 19,140 cases. No additional deaths.

193 people (up 2) in hospital, 15 (no change) of those in the ICU.

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@Husky51 @purplehaze

I'm really sorry that you have such misguided people in your family. Please stay safe!

 

@Lagie

The Delta variant is indeed running rampant pretty much everywhere by now. In this chart you can see how fast Delta (dark red) managed to push out Alpha (light red) in Germany (this chart covers the year 2021 only):

So it is really only a matter of time until Delta will be prevalent everywhere (until some even more viable variant will show up, that is).

 

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As of today, Thursday, September 9, 10:30 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 544 (-50) active cases, while 11 174 (+107)  people are considered to have recovered. 377 (+1) persons sadly died. 1328 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 12 095 (+58) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 143.2 (-0.9)  / Incidence for NRW: 108.4 (-1.0).

 

Currently 30 (+7) persons are treated in hospital, with 6 (+2) of them in intensive care, 2 (+2) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 140 040 (1st jab, 66.4%) and 124 228  (2nd jab, 58.9%) vaccinations so far.

 

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As of today, Friday, September 10, 09:00 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 499 (-45) active cases, while 11 252 (+78)  people are considered to have recovered. 377 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1395 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 12 128 (+33) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 120.2 (-23.0)  / Incidence for NRW: 106.9 (-1.5).

 

Currently 27 (-3) persons are treated in hospital, with 6 (+-0) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 140 040 (1st jab, 66.4%) and 124 228  (2nd jab, 58.9%) vaccinations so far.

 

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As of today, Saturday, September 11, 09:00 GMT+2, my home town (population 211 000) has 472 (-27) active cases, while 11 320 (+68)  people are considered to have recovered. 377 (+-0) persons sadly died. 1395 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 12 169 (+41) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 114.0 (-6.2)  / Incidence for NRW: 103.3 (-3.6).

 

Currently 27 (+-0) persons are treated in hospital, with 6 (+-0) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 140 114 (1st jab, 66.4%) and 124 460  (2nd jab, 59.0%) vaccinations so far.

[Source: Stadt Oberhausen]

 

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136 new cases yesterday (Wednesday), 115 of those on my island (positivity rate 30.6%) for a new total of 19,276 cases. No additional deaths.

195 people (up 2) in hospital, 18 (up 3) of those in the ICU.

 

And we're now at the usual 48 page obit section plus 18 additional regular (bigger) pages (from 12 the past two weeks). :(



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Lagie: *physically distanced hugs*. Other than that, I have no words 😞

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15 hours ago, Astiana said:

Lagie: *physically distanced hugs*. Other than that, I have no words 😞

Thanks.

 

From one of our doctors here:

An opinion of a medical professional with over 40 years experience. I encourage everyone to get vaccinated. While maintaining social distancing, wearing masks, and sanitizing is extremely important; they are not necessarily going to keep you from getting COVID. The vaccines are imperfect but they are quite effective at preventing infection but more importantly they are VERY effective at keeping you from being hospitalized or dying. It is the current belief that EVERYONE will likely contract this disease at some point in their lives, and our only real protection is the vaccine. If you have any questions or concerns and would like to discuss this with me, Dr D (snipped). You may also speak with my daughter Dr A (snipped). Our hospitals are overflowing with unvaccinated patients, many of whom are young and previously healthy. Yesterday I had a patient with a heart attack who spent the night sitting in a chair in the lobby due to no beds.

(Emphasis added by me. @Kestra15, do you agree?)

 

 

60 new cases yesterday (Thursday), 52 of those on my island (positivity rate 24.1%) for a new total of 19,336 cases. No additional deaths.

188 people (down 7) in hospital, 23 (up 5!) of those in the ICU.

 

It will be interesting... and sad... in two weeks (and then in three weeks) to see if yesterday's advance polls for next week's election have any effect. The polling stations were crowded and NOT socially distanced. And the rest of us eligible voters have to go put ourselves to the same risk next Thursday if we wish to vote. We have a stupid system here of everyone sticking their thumbs in the same pot of ink to prove we have voted and I'm sure there's no way to sanitize the ink...

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On 9/11/2021 at 1:23 AM, Lagie said:

Thanks.

 

From one of our doctors here:

An opinion of a medical professional with over 40 years experience. I encourage everyone to get vaccinated. While maintaining social distancing, wearing masks, and sanitizing is extremely important; they are not necessarily going to keep you from getting COVID. The vaccines are imperfect but they are quite effective at preventing infection but more importantly they are VERY effective at keeping you from being hospitalized or dying. It is the current belief that EVERYONE will likely contract this disease at some point in their lives, and our only real protection is the vaccine. If you have any questions or concerns and would like to discuss this with me, Dr D (snipped). You may also speak with my daughter Dr A (snipped). Our hospitals are overflowing with unvaccinated patients, many of whom are young and previously healthy. Yesterday I had a patient with a heart attack who spent the night sitting in a chair in the lobby due to no beds.

(Emphasis added by me. @Kestra15, do you agree?)

A difficult one. I would say that everyone is likely to get it, in the same way everyone is likely to get flu, common cold, norovirus and all the other common community infections we live with. COVID-19 is never going to go away; it is going to become endemic, embedded in society and something I will no doubt spend the rest of my career treating. I will probably even contract it myself no matter how careful I am, because we eventually make an error when continually exposed to these patients (case in point, I forgot to put my visor on yesterday and had to take someone's NIV hood off. Got a full 10l or so of very infected air in the face).

 

Not everyone has definitely had the flu, but a lot of people have, and what's likely is you may have been an asymptomatic carrier at some point - because of vaccinations (I am first in line every year - literally, normally on of the first in the hospital). And you're always meeting people who have it, be they someone who shakes it off after a few days, or is down for a week or two - but it is rare to see it in hospital on ICU, and certainly not in vast numbers.

 

The difference in this case is COVID-19's stunning communicability. Over 7milliom people on the UK are confirmed as having had it already - over 10% of our population! - and we suspect that it may be almost double that by some estimates. So something that can easily transmit, whose dominant strain is now the more virulent form, which already has a hold that strong in the local population? Actually yeah, I can believe we'll eventually all get it at some point in our lives. If so, I really ****ing hope we reduce the fatality rate further.

 

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11 hours ago, Kestra15 said:

If so, I really ****ing hope we reduce the fatality rate further.

Amen to that. But it does seem that vaccination helps with that, does it not? If we could just get people vaccinated. Breakthrough cases among the vaccinated seem to be much milder. What is scary is that as long as the virus is free to spread anywhere in the world, none of us is really safe because of its ability to mutate and possibly develop strains that the vaccine does not protect against.

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Definitely helps. A lot of my patients are now either unvaccinated, have so many health problems anything more than a headache would be life-threatening, and the very occasional unlucky soul.

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