Coronavirus Discussion

[Lagie]

1 minute ago, SomeRandomCorviknight said:

I think they were suppose to get theirs, but caught a cold and couldn't - they want to get one.

Excellent. Hope they can soon!

[AsymDoll13]

My parents are unvaccinated, and I'm staying with my fully vaccinated friend/their dad (also fully vaxxed) and when I visit my parents, I never wear a mask. But in public I wear a mask. Explain that logic, amirite? 

 

My dad refuses the vaccine, since "I've had it before, and I can't get it again." It drives me crazy, and he'll argue all day about it. So we never discuss any of it. 

 

Anyway. Yeah. In my experience, I've visited my unvaxxed parents, and I've been totally fine. 

[Astreya]

In Germany, there is currently a clearly visible Northwest/Southeast division Covid-wise. As in the Southeastern Länder, the vaccination rates are markedly lower than in the Northwestern Länder, the 7-day-incidence there is considerably higher:

 

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As of today, Tuesday, November 2, 11:45 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 244 (-5) active cases, while 12 589 (+8)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  371 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 219 (+3) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 90.7 (-3.8)  / Incidence for NRW: 106.9 (-4.3).

 

Currently 47 (+5) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (+-0) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Wednesday, November 3, 09:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 224 (-20) active cases, while 12 611 (+22)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  391 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 221 (+2) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 74.4 (-16.3)  / Incidence for NRW: 96.2 (-10.7).

 

Currently 48 (+1) persons are treated in hospital, with 2 (-1) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 146 288 (1st jab, 69.3%) and 136 991  (2nd jab, 64.9%) vaccinations so far. (Vaccination data from Oct 26, 2021).

Edited November 4, 2021 by Astreya

[Lagie]

54 minutes ago, Astreya said:

In Germany, there is currently a clearly visible Northwest/Southeast division Covid-wise.

Wow. There really is a huge difference.

 

Since the election, the daily updates are taking longer and longer to be released. It's quite frustrating. And the pre-election promise of free testing for all and we'll get rid of the health visa, of course have not happened. Not a surprise at all.

[Astreya]

@Lagie

The updates  of the numbers in Germany  differ between the Länder - some of them are a bit slower than the others, too. Particularly the vaccination numbers are usually updated in longer intervals now, probably because the numbers are sadly low nowadays.

 

I'm just watching a press conference of a medical coordinator in Landshut, a municipality in Bavaria (very right bottom of the Germany chart above) who just announced that they have to postpone non-essential surgeries to be able to handle the rising number of Covid patients, about 90% of whom are unvaccinated.

 

Today the RKI reported 33 949 new cases for the whole of Germany - and the dark number will likely be much higher as PCR tests nowadays have to be paid by people who are unvaccinated by choice (and not due to medical reasons).

 

I really wonder why it doesn't get into the brains of the anti-vaxxers that the risks a live virus poses that can't be controlled than possible risks of a vaccine that is closely monitored and only contains inactive particles of a virus which will be completely dissolved by the body within a few days. So far we do not know if the virus can't stay dormant in the body like the measles or herpes virus and possibly show up again years later, so people who fear for long-term risks of a vaccine should far more be afraid of possible long-term risks of SARS-CoV-2 proper.

 

As for the side-effect of blood-clotting that showed up a few months ago after vaccinations - I will quote a part of a study for you:

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In the eight to 28 days after patients had received the first dose of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, an increased risk of rare blood clotting events and low platelet counts were reported. In the same period after the first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, an increased risk of blood clots and strokes due to the restricted blood flow to the brain have also been reported.

 

However, the researchers noted that these adverse effects were much higher following SARS-CoV-2 infection.

The study also estimated that 107 people for every 10 million people exposed to the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine might develop thrombocytopenia, 66 for venous thromboembolism, and seven for cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST). Meanwhile, the team estimates about 143 cases of ischemic stroke for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

 

On the other hand, SARS-CoV-2 infection may cause an estimated 934 extra cases of thrombocytopenia, 12,614 cases of venous thromboembolism, 1,699 cases of ischemic stroke, and 20 of CVST. Thus, the risk of these vascular events is significantly higher as compared to those that might occur post-vaccination.

 

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210906/COVID-19-presents-a-higher-risk-of-blood-clots-than-vaccination.aspx

Source:

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As of today, Thursday, November 4, 10:30 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 224 (+-0) active cases, while 12 632 (+21)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  437 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 242 (+21) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 63.5 (-10.9)  / Incidence for NRW: 96.5 (+0.3).

 

Currently 49 (+1) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (+1) of them in intensive care, 3 (+1) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Friday, November 5, 09:30 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 237 (+13) active cases, while 12 663 (+31)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  441 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 286 (+44) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 69.2 (+5.7)  / Incidence for NRW: 106.8 (+10.3).

 

Currently 52 (+3) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (+-0) of them in intensive care, 3 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Saturday, November 6, 08:30 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 256 (+19) active cases, while 12 678 (+15)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  446 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 320 (+34) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 74.4 (+5.2)  / Incidence for NRW: 112.7 (+5.9).

 

Currently 51 (-1) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (+-0) of them in intensive care, 3 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Sunday, November 7, 12:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 295 (+39) active cases, while 12 687 (+9)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  413 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 368 (+48) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 76.0 (+1.6)  / Incidence for NRW: 112.7 (+-0.0).

 

Currently 50 (-1) persons are treated in hospital, with 4 (+1) of them in intensive care, 4 (+1) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Monday, November 8, 10:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 276 (-19) active cases, while 12 721 (+34)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  397 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 383 (+15) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 82.1 (+6.1)  / Incidence for NRW: 123.2 (+9.5).

 

Currently 50 (+-0) persons are treated in hospital, with 5 (+1) of them in intensive care, 4 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Tuesday, November 9, 09:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 255 (-21) active cases, while 12 751 (+30)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  436 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 392 (+9) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 84.9 (+2.8)  / Incidence for NRW: 130.0 (+6.8).

 

Currently 49 (-1) persons are treated in hospital, with 5 (+-0) of them in intensive care, 3 (-1) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Wednesday, November 10, 09:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 274 (+19) active cases, while 12 771 (+20)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  481 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 431 (+39) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 102.1 (+17.2)  / Incidence for NRW: 147.9 (+17.9).

 

Currently 46 (-3) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (-2) of them in intensive care, 2 (-1) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 147 070 (1st jab, 69.7%) and 138 412  (2nd jab, 65.6%) vaccinations so far. (Vaccination data from Nov 3, 2021).

Source: Stadt Oberhausen

Edited November 10, 2021 by Astreya

[Astreya]

By now the numbers in Germany really explode. The first municipality, Rottal-Inn in Bayern/Bavaria reached a 7-day incidence of 1140.4 today, which you can see in black on the bottom-right of the chart:

Spoiler

Source: https://www.n-tv.de/infografik/Coronavirus-aktuelle-Zahlen-Daten-zur-Epidemie-in-Deutschland-Europa-und-der-Welt-article21604983.html

 

Still Germany is divided into the north-west with slightly fewer infections and south-east much higher infection rates (and lower vaccine intake).

 

With 50 196 new infections today (Nov 11), the RKI reported the highest number of new infection that we have seen in one day in Germany so far. Additionally we have a positivity rate of 16.03% (up from 12.2% last week) that shows that the infections are fast running out of control.

 

As today (Nov 11) is the start of the carnival season with many festivities (and lots of people hanging in one spot and partying), we can expect the infections going up even more, even though many places demand "2G", that is, access only for people who are doubly vaccinated "geimpft" or recovered from a Covid-19 infection "genesen".

 

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As of today, Thursday, November 11, 09:30 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 324 (+50) active cases, while 12 781 (+10)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  568 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 491 (+60) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 119.3 (+17.2)  / Incidence for NRW: 154.3 (+6.4).

 

Currently 47 (+1) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (+-0) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Friday, November 12, 10:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 339 (+15) active cases, while 12 809 (+28)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  619 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 534 (+43) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 118.8 (-0.5)  / Incidence for NRW: 157.0 (+2.7).

 

Currently 51 (+4) persons are treated in hospital, with 5 (+3) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 147 452 (1st jab, 69.9%) and 139 216  (2nd jab, 66.0%) and 6146 (3rd jab, 2.9%) vaccinations so far. (Vaccination data from Nov 10, 2021).

Source: Stadt Oberhausen

Edited November 13, 2021 by Astreya

[Lagie]

On 11/11/2021 at 6:40 AM, Astreya said:

By now the numbers in Germany really explode. The first municipality, Rottal-Inn in Bayern/Bavaria reached a 7-day incidence of 1140.4 today, which you can see in black on the bottom-right of the chart

Wow that is a lot of cases. Stay safe!

 

We have been under 5% positivity for the past six days. Our emergency orders end tomorrow but the new government has continued things like the mask mandate (and fines), social distancing, entry limitations for shops (1 person per 30 square feet) limited numbers at funerals, weddings, and social events at home, indoor dining only for the fully vaccinated.

Hopefully the positivity rate stays down. We're at 22,573 cases, 47 in hospital (8 in the ICU), and 665 deaths:( .

[Kestra15]

694 deaths in my city, accounts for 12% of all deaths since March 2020.

[Astreya]

@Lagie

Yeah, and unfortunately people are very unreasonable as they want to party in the carnival season - and this when a carnival party in Heinsberg last year was the initial super-spreader event in Germany! Additionally it's the season for the German Weihnachtsmärkte (=Christmas markets), and so far it seems as if the organisers wants to go through with them, too. I guess we can expect a further rise of the infections very soon.

 

In the South-east we now have incidence numbers well beyond 500 in some locations, but the North-west very likely will follow due to the carnival start:

 

https://www.n-tv.de/infografik/Coronavirus-aktuelle-Zahlen-Daten-zur-Epidemie-in-Deutschland-Europa-und-der-Welt-article21604983.html

 

@Kestra15

Dear me, that doesn't sound good either. Please stay safe, too!

 

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As of today, Saturday, November 13, 10:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 355 (+16) active cases, while 12 829 (+20)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  647 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 570 (+36) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 119.3 (+0.5)  / Incidence for NRW: 159.8 (+2.8).

 

Currently 45 (-6) persons are treated in hospital, with 4 (-1) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today, Sunday, November 14, 09:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 387 (+32) active cases, while 12 844 (+15)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  605 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 617 (+37) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 120.7 (+1.4)  / Incidence for NRW: 162.6 (+2.8).

 

Currently 44 (-1) persons are treated in hospital, with 5 (+1) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today,  Monday, November 15, 11:45 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 379 (-8) active cases, while 12 862 (+18)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  597 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 627 (+10) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 118.3 (-2.4)  / Incidence for NRW: 167.0 (+4.4).

 

Currently 44 (+-0) persons are treated in hospital, with 6 (+1) of them in intensive care, 2 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today,  Tuesday, November 16, 08:30 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 345 (-34) active cases, while 12 910 (+48)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  668 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 641 (+14) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 120.7 (+2.4)  / Incidence for NRW: 176.6 (+9.6).

 

Currently 46 (+2) persons are treated in hospital, with 5 (-1) of them in intensive care, 3 (+1) of them needing artificial respiration.

 

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As of today,  Wednesday, November 17, 12:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 406 (+61) active cases, while 12 917 (+7)  people are considered to have recovered. 386 (+-0) persons sadly died.  699 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 709 (+68) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 136.0 (+15.3)  / Incidence for NRW: 183.0 (+6.4).

 

Currently 45 (-1) persons are treated in hospital, with 6 (+1) of them in intensive care, 3 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 147 452 (1st jab, 69.9%) and 139 216  (2nd jab, 66.0%) and 6146 (3rd jab, 2.9%) vaccinations so far. (Vaccination data from Nov 10, 2021).

 

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As of today, Thursday, November 18, 10:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 451 (+45) active cases, while 12 947 (+30)  people are considered to have recovered. 388 (+2) persons sadly died.  721 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 786 (+77) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 143.6 (+7.6)  / Incidence for NRW: 192.3 (+9.7).

 

Currently 46 (+1) persons are treated in hospital, with 5 (-1) of them in intensive care, 3 (+-0) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 148 042 (1st jab, 70.2%) and 140 2896  (2nd jab, 66.5%) and 9874 (3rd jab, 4.7%) vaccinations so far. (Vaccination data from Nov 18, 2021).

Source: Stadt Oberhausen

Edited November 19, 2021 by Astreya

[AsymDoll13]

Got my booster today! I had a doctor's appointment, and they offered it to me. So I took it. lol

 

I feel totally fine, maybe a little tired. 

[Lagie]

6 minutes ago, AsymDoll13 said:

Got my booster today! I had a doctor's appointment, and they offered it to me. So I took it. lol

 

I feel totally fine, maybe a little tired. 

Congrats!

 

Our positivity rate has been under 5% for a week and a bit now. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

[AsymDoll13]

I hope it does. I really hope it does. 

[trystan]

1 hour ago, AsymDoll13 said:

Got my booster today! I had a doctor's appointment, and they offered it to me. So I took it. lol

I feel totally fine, maybe a little tired. 

woo, i got mine yesterday  

i had some tired meh time this afternoon, but i'm good now.  

 

my county case numbers are going up. *sigh*

[purpledragonclaw]

4 hours ago, AsymDoll13 said:

Got my booster today! I had a doctor's appointment, and they offered it to me. So I took it. lol

 

I feel totally fine, maybe a little tired. 

 

Congratulations! I got mine last week, felt seriously lightheaded about an hour after the fact, then felt fine.

[AsymDoll13]

36 minutes ago, purpledragonclaw said:

 

Congratulations! I got mine last week, felt seriously lightheaded about an hour after the fact, then felt fine.

 

I'm 100% fine. I was fine after my normal doses as well.  Freaked the lady that gave me the booster out, since I've never had Covid. 

[Astreya]

Yay for all people who already got their boosters!

My appointment for my booster is on January 12 as my second jab was at the end of June.

 

In Germany the numbers only have one direction at the moment - up. The 7-day incidence per 100 000 people for the whole of Germany is at 340.7 right now, and the positivity rate of laboratory confirmed PCR tests is at 17.3%.

Spoiler

Source: https://www.n-tv.de/infografik/Coronavirus-aktuelle-Zahlen-Daten-zur-Epidemie-in-Deutschland-Europa-und-der-Welt-article21604983.html

And this still doesn't really take into account the infections that were possibly caused by the carnival opening a week ago. -_-'

 

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As of today, Friday, November 19, 11:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 472 (+21) active cases, while 12 979 (+32)  people are considered to have recovered. 388 (+-0) persons sadly died. 872 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 839 (+53) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 148.4 (+4.8)  / Incidence for NRW: 200.9 (+8.6).

 

Currently 41 (-5) persons are treated in hospital, with 4 (-1) of them in intensive care, 1 (-2) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 148 042 (1st jab, 70.2%) and 140 2896  (2nd jab, 66.5%) and 9874 (3rd jab, 4.7%) vaccinations so far. (Vaccination data from Nov 18, 2021).

Source: Stadt Oberhausen

[_Terminus24]

I'm not vaccinated 🤷‍♂️

Just for the reason that I'm epileptic. But really would not have any jab at all... (I have my own reasons not to)

Take care everyone! 

PS: I'm freeking sick of Covid tbh 😕 I don't know why I replied.  Just to let everyone now that I haven't had been vaccinated, I guess  Not a single time...

Edited November 19, 2021 by _Terminus24

[AsymDoll13]

I have congestive heart failure (diagnosed at like 26 too). So I needed it. I also have anxiety and depression. So... Good for me to be vaxxed, I think. 

[HeatherMarie]

People posting about getting boosters, are the places you live recommending boosters for everyone at this stage? As far as I know we are still in the 'boosters recommended for the more vulnerable' area, it says they may be recommended for everyone eventually but right now only people considered more vulnerable are eligible (unless something changed in the past two days that I don't know about). 

 

We just recently started vaccinating children ages 5 and older, though so far I haven't seen any stats on how many are actually getting it.  Our new-cases numbers are unsettlingly high recently but thankfully the deaths have remained pretty low the past few weeks. Yesterday 50 new cases reported, the day before 26. Today's stats:

[AsymDoll13]

I think it's been confirmed that we can have boosters whenever (after the 6 month wait of course) just today, but since I have conditions, I think I could have gotten it anyway. 

 

As for @_Terminus24, I'd rather not discuss if I should have gotten it or not, as it's my decision, and I think that I'm helping people. I'd have gotten it last year if my grandmother could have been saved, but alas, it was before the vaxx even was released that we lost her. 

[Lagie]

10 hours ago, Astreya said:

and the positivity rate of laboratory confirmed PCR tests is at 17.3%.

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Source: https://www.n-tv.de/infografik/Coronavirus-aktuelle-Zahlen-Daten-zur-Epidemie-in-Deutschland-Europa-und-der-Welt-article21604983.html

 

If this were a piece of art, I'd say the colours were lovely, but as a Covid map, it's quite scary.

Stay safe!

Edited November 20, 2021 by Lagie
Typed in the wrong place

[purpledragonclaw]

@HeatherMarie boosters are allowed for anyone except children in my area, as long as it's been six months since your last covid vaccination.

[_Terminus24]

22 hours ago, AsymDoll13 said:

I think it's been confirmed that we can have boosters whenever (after the 6 month wait of course) just today, but since I have conditions, I think I could have gotten it anyway. 

 

As for @_Terminus24, I'd rather not discuss if I should have gotten it or not, as it's my decision, and I think that I'm helping people. I'd have gotten it last year if my grandmother could have been saved, but alas, it was before the vaxx even was released that we lost her. 

 

You do not have to discuss, do whatever you want brotha 👍

~link removed~(It's in English, you wont have any problems to understand)

I'm not sure if i sent this last night, for some reason just can't find it... I will put the link again see what you guys think... Just have an open mind (If possible) Thanks 🙏 

Btw take care everyone, don't listen to what everyone says !! Load of crap has been said 🙂 

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by purpledragonclaw

[sakurakid]

In Italy the tg says is starting the fourt wave of  Covid. I not remember  the accurate number of  sick people, but it is feared a new lock down.

For the moment none  regions is in yellow zone but the people have terror of the reclusion.

Personally; i in the past lock down don't has a problem, the my job he had  become relaxing; my life it save and max tranquillity.

I compreheend the economic problems and the ugly situation of the stores in the world, but nonostanly i has fact the 2 doses of vaccine, i dont like the idea of  the third doses and i  hate much the green pass.

For my opinion is necessary a cure efficently for resolve this  very much bad situation.

[Astreya]

16 hours ago, _Terminus24 said:

I'm not vaccinated 🤷‍♂️

Just for the reason that I'm epileptic. But really would not have any jab at all... (I have my own reasons not to)

Well, obviously you have no idea about how the human body works and what a virus can do to said body. I would like to say "Okay, then it is your problem if you catch the disease", but unfortunately this is not the case as you would take up the bed for another person if you get very ill from it and also add to the increasing workload for doctors and nurses.

 

Mind you, one member of the ethic council very recently mentioned in an interview that in a triage situation, it might be admissible to take the vaccination status into account, meaning that people who are not jabbed by choice could be put at the back of the queue for who will get treatment if the hospitals are overwhelmed.

 

15 hours ago, HeatherMarie said:

People posting about getting boosters, are the places you live recommending boosters for everyone at this stage?

In Germany, the boosters by now are recommended for every person over 18 about six months after the second jab. As the vulnerable people here were at the beginning of the queue with the vaccinations, they are automatically pretty much in front with the boosters, too. 

 

14 hours ago, Lagie said:

If this were a piece of art, I'd say the colours were lovely, but as a Covid map, it's quite scary.

Stay safe!

I try to! Fortunately in my place people are diligently wearing medical mask in the shops and you don't see anyone without one here. As I don't really go eating or partying out, I'm thus fairly safe, I hope.

 

3 hours ago, _Terminus24 said:

I will put the link again see what you guys think... Just have an open mind (If possible) Thanks 🙏

 

Well, reuters.com did a little research and found the following. For the links to their sources, please go to the article proper at https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-funeralhomes-covid-idUSL2N2OD1TX

 

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Fact Check-No evidence that, according to funeral homes, ‘the only ones dying’ are those receiving the vaccine
By Reuters Fact Check

An anonymous testimony from someone claiming to be a funeral director in the UK has been used online to claim that according to funeral homes, “the only ones dying” are those receiving the COVID-19 vaccine. Reuters found no evidence to back up this allegation.

 

Some posts with this claim ( here ) reference an article (archived here: here ) posted on Before It’s News, a site which allows anyone with an account to post an article.

The article features an audio interview of someone identified only as “John”, who describes himself as a person in his 50’s and says he has been a UK-based funeral director for 15 years. This video has also been posted on *****ute ( here ) and Facebook ( here ).

 

Reuters found no further news reports with similar statements attributed to funeral directors and was unable to identify the man in the video.

 

“I am not aware of any funeral director anywhere making claims that the only people dying are those who have received the COVID-19 vaccine.” said Jessica Koth, Director of Public Relations at the U.S. National Funeral Directors Association ( here ) in an emailed statement to Reuters.

The NFDA also told Reuters in February 2021 ( here ) that the sheer number of coronavirus deaths has overwhelmed many U.S. funeral homes, with some family-owned businesses seeing the same number of deaths in a couple of months as they would normally handle in a year.

 

2020 UK DEATH TOLL

The interviewee also falsely says the death toll in the UK only started rising after the vaccination roll-out.

 

Provisional figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) which registers information from England and Wales (not the whole UK) showed that 608,002 deaths were recorded in 2020 ( here ), the highest registry since at least 1990. Reuters previously addressed similar misleading claims here , here .

 

As Reuters explained here, COVID-19 cases in the UK were steadily rising when the COVID-19 vaccination program was initiated on Dec. 8, 2020 and deaths, which lag cases by a number of weeks, peaked later.

 

Other false claims mentioned in the video and also tackled by Reuters can be seen here and here.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-funeralhomes-covid-idUSL2N2OD1TX

 

58 minutes ago, sakurakid said:

i has fact the 2 doses of vaccine, i dont like the idea of  the third doses and i  hate much the green pass.

For my opinion is necessary a cure efficently for resolve this  very much bad situation.

Why do you have a problem with the booster? It is definitely much less of a foreign substance that you put into your body than the heaps of medication you'd get daily if you develop a severe version of the disease. (Similarly if you have to take a medication for several days or weeks it very likely has more side effects that a dose of the vaccine.)

 

This is what one medical doctor posted about what he has to give one of his patients:

A German infectology expert explained what these meds are and what they do and which side-effects they have in this (German language) article:  https://www.businessinsider.de/wissenschaft/gesundheit/intensivstation-wegen-covid-diese-medikamente-bekommen-die-patienten-a/

 

By the way, the infectologist said that he would likely have to prescribe even more meds as the above list was lacking stuff against inflammations and some more things that might be needed additionally.

 

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As of today, Saturday, November 20, 11:00 GMT+1, my home town (population 211 000) has 486 (+14) active cases, while 13 012 (+33)  people are considered to have recovered. 388 (+-0) persons sadly died. 884 persons are currently quarantined. All in all there have been 13 886 (+47) people who suffered from Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic. The number of newly infected people per 100 000 citizens in the last 7 days is 154.1 (+5.7)  / Incidence for NRW: 213.1 (+12.2).

 

Currently 30 (-11) persons are treated in hospital, with 3 (-1) of them in intensive care, 2 (+1) of them needing artificial respiration.

There have been 148 042 (1st jab, 70.2%) and 140 2896  (2nd jab, 66.5%) and 9874 (3rd jab, 4.7%) vaccinations so far. (Vaccination data from Nov 18, 2021).

Source: Stadt Oberhausen

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by Astreya