2015-08-29 - August Release

[Syphoneira]

I think the silvers are gonna end up being the rarest during this drop because of how long people have waited.

 

 

Well, most people probably go for scroll-fulls anyway, so as long as we get a good, long Flood and enough people catch manage to catch that and fill up off the hop, and if we have a good Drop rate after that so that people can get two scroll-fulls if they want, there shouldn't be a problem, especially if their initial (and heaviest) Drop lasts 8 days, as has been conjectured.

 

Otherwise, there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth - and I won't be the only one, lol. They're freaking gorgeous dragons and there will be many lines and lineages using these, for which they'll be needed...

 

Edit: naturally, utterly ed, lol.

 

 

 

Edit: Thanks for the lovely offer, NotBambi! (Re-edit: and Stellaluna22 - wow, lots of noble people here!) Ideally though, we can all catch our own - it's so much more fun that way!

Edited September 13, 2015 by Syphoneira

[NotBambi]

 

Well, most people probably go for scroll-fulls anyway, so as long as we get a good, long Flood and enough people catch manage to catch that and fill up off the hop, and if we have a good Drop rate after that so that people can get two scroll-fulls if they want, there shouldn't be a problem, especially if their initial (and heaviest) Drop lasts 8 days, as has been conjectured.

 

Otherwise, there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth - and I won't be the only one, lol. They're freaking gorgeous dragons and there will be many lines and lineages using these, for which they'll be needed...

 

Edit: naturally, utterly ed, lol.

No need for wailing and gnashing of teeth, your friends will be honored to catch them for you

[Stellaluna22]

No need for wailing and gnashing of teeth, your friends will be honored to catch them for you

I second this

[skyprotecter]

and I've just been reminded why I should not be impatient with new eggs....

I have no idea how long two of my eggs have been sick but for once I am glad steam crashed on me. Luckily they haven't died, I hope they won't stay sick for too long!

[Denwayasha]

As much as I'm impatiently awaiting the Silver Lunar Heralds, I think it's an interesting mechanic that the different colors seem to wax and wane like the moons (If the prevailing theory is correct, that is.) rather than just a straight cycle. c: Plus, if the Bronzes and Golds do come around again before we get Silvers it'll be nice for people who missed those colors the first time while those of us who have our fill can hunt for/breed other things.

 

My guess based on what's already happened is that we'll get Bronzes again at phase change on the 13th, Golds at phase change on the 17th and then as others have guessed, Silvers on the 21st.

[NotBambi]

As much as I'm impatiently awaiting the Silver Lunar Heralds, I think it's an interesting mechanic that the different colors seem to wax and wane like the moons (If the prevailing theory is correct, that is.) rather than just a straight cycle. c: Plus, if the Bronzes and Golds do come around again before we get Silvers it'll be nice for people who missed those colors the first time while those of us who have our fill can hunt for/breed other things.

I love your approach: if life gives us lemons, let's make some lemonade. Actually, I prefer: if life throws some limes our way, let's make some limeade. Or, even better, mojitos

[stadanko]

I love your approach: if life gives us lemons, let's make some lemonade. Actually, I prefer: if life throws some limes our way, let's make some limeade. Or, even better, mojitos

This is the advice I go by:

 

PS, I checked rules to see if pictures were a no-no. I did not see them mentioned so YOLO!

[Shokomon]

So Auron is actually bigger, and it's bigger in the pictures as well?

Yup. That is correct! Because I'm a dork who loves puns.

 

And just because it's been a bit.

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Bump for the late night!

- Eggs are still very much blue.

- Check the DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories Thread for speculation when Silvers are going to come (as well as explanations why we think that way)!

- State your breeding plans and funny names for the Lunar Heralds in the Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming Thread!

- Please tell me if I missed anything!

 

A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS:

(For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates)

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- We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons!

- Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon) and Cirion (Blue Moon) are still in the WaXing Crescent and WaNing Gibbous phases respectively.

- Everyone is still catching Blue/Indigo eggs in the Cave! No change in color!

- We have Adult dragons, and we are breeding Blue/Indigo Lunar eggs. No change in color!

- The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.)

- So far, Gold, Bronze, and Blue/Indigo eggs have dropped in the Cave! Bronze and Blue/Indigo eggs have been bred.

 

- Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post.

- As of Sept 05, 2015 @ ~9:00PM, Indigo Lunar eggs began dropping en masse! Go and grab them!!!

 

- No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when.

- That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself.

- There is a possibility that the release started in the middle of the Waning Gibbous phase for Aurax and Waning Crescent phase for Cirion.

 

- IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post.

- This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under.

 

- The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Cycle Post taken and modified from TJ's post)

 

--- Based on current data, it seems that Cirion's phases change faster than Aurax's.

----- Aurax takes 8 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon.

----- Cirion takes 4 days to move from WaXing Gibbous to Full Moon.

----- Aurax's New Moon is 24 hours long.

----- Cirion's Full Moon is 24 hours long. New Moon Phase is unconfirmed to be 24 hours long.

 

Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC.

Aurax: Waning Gibbous

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent*

Cirion: New*

CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze.

- The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours.

* = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too.

 

Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 05, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent**

Cirion: Waxing Crescent**

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

** Exact time of change Unknown.

 

Sep 05, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 05, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 09, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 09, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 10, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 11, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

[Edited by Shokomon]

- Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change.

- We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon.

 

- There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to:

• 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases.

2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases.

3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors.

4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion.

5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors.

6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up.

7) The Lunar Herald egg colors will come in a linear fashion (aka all the colors in a row.) For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Silver --> Gold --> Repeat.

8) The Lunar Herald eggs colors will NOT come in a linear fashion, and there are possible periods where a color or two do not show up for extended periods of time, despite the other colors showing up. For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Bronze --> Gold --> Silver --> Bronze --> Continue.

- Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate.

- The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6.

- The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2, 6, and 8.

 

- There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to:

• 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases.

2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases.

3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at  most a week.

4) The DC Lunar cycles are NOT equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phases may last longer or shorter than a week.

- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on.

- As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2.

- As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in alignment with Earth's, supporting Theory 4.

 

- LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults.

- TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size.

--- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.)

- LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers.

- LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion.

- LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults!

- LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the Bronze avatar once we start getting adults.

--- She has given us the Bronze Herald Avatar! And now the Indigo Lunar Herald Avatar!

- LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeed have metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty.

- LadyLyzar does not call the "blue" Lunar eggs "Indigos;" She just states that the "blues" are indigo in color as indigo is her favorite color, which makes sense as the "blue" lunar was meant to be her Alt. She later has reaffirmed this, stating that there is no official name for the "blue" Lunars and that they really are just indigo in color as they were to be her alt were these dragons to be chosen as prize dragons.

-LadyLyzar states that the element for the Lunar Heralds had not been planned out, and that she would put them as "Light" element.

- LadyLyzar states that the Lunar Heralds were retooled after the Shimmers were chosen for prizes, and while the moon phases work a little different than she expected, it's not complicated, and we will figure it out eventually. She won't tell us anything about the mechanic though.

 

- The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced.

- To this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune.

Threads!

- Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming

- DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories

 

Documents!

- DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking

 

And, I think that's it for the summary.

 

Edit: Opps! I meant 8, not 9. Fixed.

Edited September 13, 2015 by Shokomon

[rayden54]

- The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2, 6, and 9.

I see no theory 9.

[NotBambi]

This is the advice I go by:

 

PS, I checked rules to see if pictures were a no-no.  I did not see them mentioned so YOLO!

I still like mojitos better

 

 

Even if I would have preferred to have a release earlier so we could have all 4 colours in the first weeks, the actual situation allows people to breed "true", as in breeding Indigo adults and getting Indigo eggs. So that's not too bad.

Edited September 13, 2015 by NotBambi

[Obscure_Trash]

Reminder that the topic is the lunar herald release. Please take chat to PM.

 

~

 

My extra sapphire lunar grows up in little more than two days. I'm going to breed it to my spare gold lunar then. =3

[Nine]

I see no theory 9.

 

Theory 9 is that the moons bend to my will and shift according to my current mood. Offerings of gold and sacrifice may or may not sway my favor. Also I like icecream, expensive cars, and could use a new laptop... -nudge-

Edited September 13, 2015 by Nine

[Twyro]

I was absent for most of yesterday, so to ask to make sure - no silvers yet, right?

[Kegluneq]

I was absent for most of yesterday, so to ask to make sure - no silvers yet, right?

Nope. I caught a couple of Indigos about four hours ago or so ^^

[TheTrueMilkyBeast]

Oh, they are so beautiful! I can't decide whether I should wait for next phase of moon or grab this beautiful dragon now!

[Jazeki]

Oh, they are so beautiful! I can't decide whether I should wait for next phase of moon or grab this beautiful dragon now!

You should grab them now. The length of phases varies, so it might be while before you are able to get blues again--unless you are able to really keep track of the moon phases of DC.

[Asketil]

The blue ones have already been dropping way over a week, do you think the silvers will last this long?

[pinkgothic]

The blue ones have already been dropping way over a week, do you think the silvers will last this long?

Personally, yeah, I do.

[Riverwillows]

(Music) I've been waiting.....for a silver egg....to come into my life......."(end music)

 

 

Yeah, yeah, I know..bad joke. (apologies to Foreigner)

Edited September 13, 2015 by Riverwillows

[Oddsoxdi]

*Sighhhh* Are we there yet? Jeeze I wish this drop would come to an end already!

[Asketil]

I snagged myself another pair of CB blues since well they are still dropping why not. I probably will snag another pair of the other colors if we do cycle back through before the silvers are released. Anyone else thinking about doing this?

[Stormcaller]

So, still no silvers... This is like being in limbo.

 

I didn't really want to fill my scroll with keepers, but it looks like that 's starting to happen. Wait and see if that's not when the silvers drop.

 

I'm thinking about giving some of them away and hunting and hatching out of the AP to give more away in the Departures thread, which is what I've been doing to pass the time the last few days, but now if the AP gets clogged up with eggs that will take 5+ days to hatch so they will still be slow to hatch even with all my Reds helping things along.

 

This is not going to be a fun day.

Edited September 13, 2015 by Stormcaller

[NotBambi]

Personally, yeah, I do.

It is advantageous to believe that your theory is right, like I do: I'm happily hunting wothout waiting for silvers to drop

[zaverxi]

At the very least with it taking this long, we might break the record of the most replies to a news thread. Only about 2000 responses to go~

[Raphy]

I'm happily catching up on Xeno's while I wait. I wouldn't mind if the bronze ones were the next to drop seeing as I didn't catch any last time.