Posted September 12, 2015 What I'm really hoping for though is that there'll be some in-Cave helper (or even a tool on one of the hatching sites) where one'd be able to tell which types of Heralds are currently breeding. Because Waxing crescent/Waning gibbous and such doesn't really do much for me. Something really simple and visual like coloring the clock sign silver/gold/blue/bronze, that would let a player know immediately what dragon they'll be getting when breeding, would be very much appreciated. Now that would be a nice and extremely helpful little mechanic, especially for people planning lineage projects that need specific colours Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Something really simple and visual like coloring the clock sign silver/gold/blue/bronze, that would let a player know immediately what dragon they'll be getting when breeding, would be very much appreciated. And what about those who are UNABLE to use the skin that has the clock due to the lagging of the graphics CRASHING the browser,since I'd LOVE to be able to use that one but I can't. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) And what about those who are UNABLE to use the skin that has the clock due to the lagging of the graphics CRASHING the browser,since I'd LOVE to be able to use that one but I can't. In the suggestion topic that asked that all the existing skins be added clocks, TJ said that they were working on it and plan on implementing it. (see here) Only a few more hours until my Blues grow up - go darlings, go! Edited September 12, 2015 by stagazer_7 Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 In the suggestion topic that asked that all the existing skins be added clocks, TJ said that they were working on it and plan on implementing it. (see here) Will that cause that issue with the skin making it hard to click on eggs the way the first skin with the clock has as far as the border on it blocking stuff while in the midst of scrolling up/down/side to side to go far FAR away? Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Now that would be a nice and extremely helpful little mechanic, especially for people planning lineage projects that need specific colours I'm hoping that once all the data is in regarding the lunar cycles and Herald colours, to make a clock like that for the wiki which shows the moon phases and which colour is currently available After a while longer of tracking the moons to confirm patterns and whatnot, I'll work on getting a "forecast" chart up there as well so you can see how long and when the next colours are available. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Will that cause that issue with the skin making it hard to click on eggs the way the first skin with the clock has as far as the border on it blocking stuff while in the midst of scrolling up/down/side to side to go far FAR away? I honestly have no idea, as I'm not a programmer and know nothing about web design. I never had this issue with the default skin though, only lagging. Anyhow, now that my scroll is unlocked again, I'm severely tempted to go hunting again. Edit: also just tested my pairs and there are definitely still Blue Heralds dropping. Edited September 12, 2015 by stagazer_7 Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Yeah but someone else pointed out that if the gap between blues and silvers really is as big as predicted, TJ could have started the drop with the silvers, so there wouldn't be such a delay. Though I'm inclined to think what others have been thinking in that he may have stretched out this release over 2 months on purpose to give a bit more breathing space in prep for the Halloween event. But - if golds are also spread over 8 days the fuss would have kicked in then instead. And if it had started with one of the others with - it seems - shorter times, we would have had TWO baaaaaaw why are we waiting spells. This seems the smartest path he has taken - assuming current theory holds up. And yes to purplehaze - making them drop off schedule would have caused much massiver drama later. "How was I supposed to know I would get a blue and not a bronze" etc. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Still waiting on the Silvers? Guess I'll just keep popping in a couple of times per day Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 The best thing about it still being blue Lunars, you can start your blue Lunar checker lineages! I do hope the silver Lunars don't wait too long to show up. I want all my reds ready for Halloween. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 I went ahead and bred all my adult lunars to the ap so people could catch low time eggs for hatchy freezing. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 The best thing about it still being blue Lunars, you can start your blue Lunar checker lineages! I was just thinking this. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 This has been an amazing release. I don't think we've ever had one that lasted an entire month. The holidays are usually 2-2 and a half weeks, but am I correct when I say that this is the longest release event to date? Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 I have managed to catch 4 Xenos thanks to the extra-long blue lunar release and I'm so happy. I didn't manage to get ANY male CB Xenos during the short time they were flooding, and they're as rare as CB silvers normally. Lately, they've been showing up more often. I wish TJ would release a second flood of Xenos. I know he won't, but a second flood to help those of us who didn't have a chance would be really awesome. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Still no Silvers can not wait for them to drop my Indigos are all grown exept for two YAY! Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Yeah feel free. It's not new info at all, it's just presented in a nice table Thank you! I wanted it because it's presented in such a nice table. Alternative visuals and explanations are always good. In other news, -- Bump for the morning...er...Midday! - Eggs are still very much blue. - Check the DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories Thread for speculation when Silvers are going to come (as well as explanations why we think that way)! - State your breeding plans and funny names for the Lunar Heralds in the Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming Thread! - Please tell me if I missed anything! A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS: (For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates) ------- - We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons! - Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon) and Cirion (Blue Moon) are still in the WaXing Crescent and WaNing Gibbous phases respectively. - Everyone is still catching Blue/Indigo eggs in the Cave! No change in color! - We have Adult dragons, and we are breeding Blue/Indigo Lunar eggs. No change in color! - The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.) - So far, Gold, Bronze, and Blue/Indigo eggs have dropped in the Cave! Bronze and Blue/Indigo eggs have been bred. - Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post. - As of Sept 05, 2015 @ ~9:00PM, Indigo Lunar eggs began dropping en masse! Go and grab them!!! - No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when. - That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself. - There is a possibility that the release started in the middle of the Waning Gibbous phase for Aurax and Waning Crescent phase for Cirion. - IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post. - This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under. - The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Cycle Post taken and modified from TJ's post) --- Based on current data, it seems that Cirion's phases change faster than Aurax's. ----- Aurax takes 8 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon. ----- Cirion takes 4 days to move from WaXing Gibbous to Full Moon. ----- Aurax's New Moon is 24 hours long. ----- Cirion's Full Moon is 24 hours long. New Moon Phase is unconfirmed to be 24 hours long. Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC. Aurax: Waning Gibbous Cirion: Waning Crescent CB Lunar eggs are Gold. Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waning Crescent* Cirion: New* CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze. - The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours. * = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too. Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC Aurax: Waning Crescent Cirion: New CB Lunar eggs are Bronze. Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 05, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waning Crescent** Cirion: Waxing Crescent** CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze. ** Exact time of change Unknown. Sep 05, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waning crescent Cirion: Waxing Gibbous CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo. - The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days. Sep 05, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 09, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waning crescent Cirion: Waxing Gibbous CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo. Sep 09, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: New Cirion: Full CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo. Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to 7:59 PM EST/DC Aurax: New Cirion: Full CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo. Sep 10, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC Aurax: Waxing Crescent Cirion: Waning Gibbous CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo. Sep 11, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC Aurax: Waxing Crescent Cirion: Waning Gibbous CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo. [Edited by Shokomon] - Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change. - We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon. - There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to: 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases. 2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases. 3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors. 4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion. 5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors. 6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up. 7) The Lunar Herald egg colors will come in a linear fashion (aka all the colors in a row.) For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Silver --> Gold --> Repeat. 8) The Lunar Herald eggs colors will NOT come in a linear fashion, and there are possible periods where a color or two do not show up for extended periods of time, despite the other colors showing up. For example, Gold --> Bronze --> Blue --> Bronze --> Gold --> Silver --> Bronze --> Repeat. - Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate. - The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6. - The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2, 6, and 9. - There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to: 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases. 2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases. 3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at most a week. 4) The DC Lunar cycles are NOT equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phases may last longer or shorter than a week.- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on. - As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2. - As of the most recent phase change and TJ's correctional post, the Valkemare's moon phases are not in alignment with Earth's, supporting Theory 4. - LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults. - TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size. --- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.) - LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers. - LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion. - LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults! - LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the Bronze avatar once we start getting adults. --- She has given us the Bronze Herald Avatar! And now the Indigo Lunar Herald Avatar! - LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeed have metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty. - LadyLyzar does not call the "blue" Lunar eggs "Indigos;" She just states that the "blues" are indigo in color as indigo is her favorite color, which makes sense as the "blue" lunar was meant to be her Alt. She later has reaffirmed this, stating that there is no official name for the "blue" Lunars and that they really are just indigo in color as they were to be her alt were these dragons to be chosen as prize dragons. -LadyLyzar states that the element for the Lunar Heralds had not been planned out, and that she would put them as "Light" element. - LadyLyzar states that the Lunar Heralds were retooled after the Shimmers were chosen for prizes, and while the moon phases work a little different than she expected, it's not complicated, and we will figure it out eventually. She won't tell us anything about the mechanic though. - The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this: Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. - To this: Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune. Threads! - Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming - DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories Documents! - DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking And, I think that's it for the summary. Edit: Adding more theories. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Anyone else have this news thread up on their dashboard like 24/7 in case something happens? Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 *raises hand* Me! This thread is always open, and I tend to refresh it every half hour or so. No silvers while I was sleeping, huh? Well, I wasn't really expecting it anyways. Off to breed more blues. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Me as well. Maybe I'll join the hunt for Xenos, even though they don't have dimorphism... Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 I get pretty excited when I see the word "silver lunar" anywhere on people's posts because I think they've started to drop Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 I get pretty excited when I see the word "silver lunar" anywhere on people's posts because I think they've started to drop Bahaha, me too!!! Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 wake up, start egg hunting and catch one of these really quick. surprised I caught it though. now to see if I can catch a few more. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 Been xeno hunting in the Alpine....not one Lunar drop in the last half hour. Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) But - if golds are also spread over 8 days the fuss would have kicked in then instead. And if it had started with one of the others with - it seems - shorter times, we would have had TWO baaaaaaw why are we waiting spells. This seems the smartest path he has taken - assuming current theory holds up. And yes to purplehaze - making them drop off schedule would have caused much massiver drama later. "How was I supposed to know I would get a blue and not a bronze" etc. Not necessarily. If TJ had released this a few days earlier(on a weekday, which he implied is possible when he announced random releases returning), or chosen a Saturday that coincided with silvers moon phase, all four colors would have cycled before a repeat, WITHOUT CHANGING THE MECHANICS. THAT is what people are saying. Not changing the moon phases and when everything appears, but having the right timing of the release. Edited September 12, 2015 by Nectaris Share this post Link to post
Posted September 12, 2015 *raises hand* Me! This thread is always open, and I tend to refresh it every half hour or so. You only have to look at the number of pages. Unless all of a sudden there are 100 new messages, Silvers won't flood just yet. Share this post Link to post
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