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Warriors.com Gets THINGS WRONG ALL THE TIME DON'T TRUST WHAT THEY SAY DUH.

._. Warriorcats.com is the official damn website owned by Erin-FREAKIN'-Hunter herself!

 

 

Off-topic: Kinkajou... is that Princess Fernypoo the acara as your avatar? :0

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._. Warriorcats.com is the official damn website owned by Erin-FREAKIN'-Hunter herself!

 

 

Off-topic: Kinkajou... is that Princess Fernypoo the acara as your avatar? :0

Finally, someone understands. And yes, that's Princess Fernypoo. I just love her angerness and couldn't help uploading it. biggrin.gif

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._. Warriorcats.com is the official damn website owned by Erin-FREAKIN'-Hunter herself!

 

 

Off-topic: Kinkajou... is that Princess Fernypoo the acara as your avatar? :0

Well your wrong there's no erin hunter "herself" theres 6 women that write the books together it started with 2 then added 2 and the last 2 where add with the power of 3 books.

 

 

In a odd way bluestar and yellowfang where the best of friends cuz there where a lot (two words, not one) alike in many ways. (besides the whole hide there kits from there clans thing witch they both did)

 

 

 

 

 

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Well your wrong there's no erin hunter "herself" theres 6 women that write the books together it started with 2 then added 2 and the last 2 where add with the power of 3 books.

 

 

In a odd way bluestar and yellowfang where the best of friends cuz there where a lot (two words, not one) alike in many ways. (besides the whole hide there kits from there clans thing witch they both did)

 

 

 

 

 

(I love neopets.com I have a account on there SweetSugarKisses is my screen name )

True, there is more than one, but there aren't six, are there? There's only four Erin Hunters: Cherith Baldry and Kate Cary, who write the Warriors series, Tui Sutherland, who writes Seekers and the field guides, and Victoria Holmes, who plans the books. I think. There may be an extra person who helps Tui with Seekers, but those four are the only ones known. At least, known by me.

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So much hatred! 0.o I mostly dislike Cloudtail, although I grew to like him. I do want to kill Sol. Blackstar too, for falling for it. But that's about it, I think.

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So much hatred! 0.o I mostly dislike Cloudtail, although I grew to like him. I do want to kill Sol. Blackstar too, for falling for it. But that's about it, I think.

Yes, there is much hatered here. xd.png I agree with the Sol thing and with Cloud, ut I like Cloudie now. He was so pateient to Brightheart when she was injured. He's the reason she's still alive, I think. I'm much too biased about Blackstar; I like him so much, I'm blind to his faults. rolleyes.gif

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Well, I always thought that he was pretty cool, but then he was just so ready to give in when Sol came. That did a lot of damage to his character for me.

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Well, I always thought that he was pretty cool, but then he was just so ready to give in when Sol came. That did a lot of damage to his character for me.

Well, when you think about it, he was so insecure over the lake and thought that the cats were never meant to be here. He had too much stress on his shoulders, and Sol helped him take it off. All characters must feel weak sometimes. Especially leaders. Leopardstar made that one mistake to join her Clan to Tigerstar's, and she nearly destroyed the forest. She felt so insecure after that, that she couldn't trust herself with her own Clan. Bluestar wasn't perfect, nor was Tallstar or Raggedstar or Crookedstar.

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None of the clans's leader's are or where perfect.

 

There's been mistakes by both clan leaders and medcats .

 

Look at tigerstar's father he just up and lefted his clan and mate and kits to become a kittypet.

 

Yellowfang fell in love with a clan leader and had kits with him and killed one of her own kits in the end.

 

 

leafpool though crow really loved her and he was just using her to forget about feathertail and end up having 3 kits. one of her kits killed ashfur and *maybe* dead . Her medcat son is blind and her other kit is brianless.

 

Bluestar took her kits to river clan even tho she loved them but was never really in love with there father.

 

Spottedleaf was gonnta mate with firestar and make misstake kits and turn thunderclan into j unk.

 

 

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None of the clans's leader's are or where perfect.

 

There's been mistakes by both clan leaders and medcats .

 

Look at tigerstar's father he just up and lefted his clan and mate and kits to become a kittypet.

 

Yellowfang fell in love with a clan leader and had kits with him and killed one of her own kits in the end.

 

 

leafpool though crow really loved her and he was just using her to forget about feathertail and end up having 3 kits. one of her kits killed ashfur and *maybe* dead . Her medcat son is blind and her other kit is brianless.

 

Bluestar took her kits to river clan even tho she loved them but was never really in love with there father.

 

Spottedleaf was gonnta mate with firestar and make misstake kits and turn thunderclan into j unk.

Bluestar loved Oakheart, actually. Remember when she died? She said, "Oakheart, I'm ready." A cat is escorted to StarClan when they die by the cat most important to them. If Oakheart came to her instead of Snowfur (her sister), Stormtail (her father), Moonflower (her mother), or Stonepelt (her mentor), Oakheart must mean a lot to her.

 

You seem awfully sure that Spottedleaf was going to have kits.

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What? Bluestar wasn't in love with Oakheart? Since when?

 

And yeah, I know that all the clan leaders are weak sometimes. I just happen to like most of the others more than Blackstar. Not that there's anything wrong with him, it's just my personal bias tongue.gif

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HEY GUYS!!!

This is totally off the whole hate topic, but if you go to www.warriorcats.com and click The Warrior Books, you can find Bluestar's Prophecy and browse inside it! EEEK! ohmy.gif

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HEY GUYS!!!

This is totally off the whole hate topic, but if you go to www.warriorcats.com and click The Warrior Books, you can find Bluestar's Prophecy and browse inside it! EEEK!  ohmy.gif

Arrive? Bluekit tipped her head to one side. Where from?

 

D'AWWW!!! biggrin.gif

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Bluekit is SOOO adorable! The Erins have never taken us to being a small kit who has just been born into the world. What I find weird is that Pinestar and Leopardfoot are mates. Well... Pinestar's already a Clan leader, and Leopardfoot was just a kit in the first chappie. Makes Brackenfur and Sorreltail look a lot better, let me tell you. blink.gif

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Bluestar loved Oakheart, actually. Remember when she died? She said, "Oakheart, I'm ready." A cat is escorted to StarClan when they die by the cat most important to them. If Oakheart came to her instead of Snowfur (her sister), Stormtail (her father), Moonflower (her mother), or Stonepelt (her mentor), Oakheart must mean a lot to her.

 

You seem awfully sure that Spottedleaf was going to have kits.

Well The books where leading them up to spottedleaf and firestar mating before she died (thank god she died).

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Well The books where leading them up to spottedleaf and firestar mating before she died (thank god she died).

Dude... Firepaw was an APPRENTICE when she died for crying out loud! Where in the books did it explain Firepaw and Spottedleaf's so-called "mating?" I'd be interested to read about that. First apprentice in the Warriors series I've ever heard mating.

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>.>.....<.<..... *goes to look at Bluestar book on the warriors website*

 

*Is reading the prolouge and is already close to tears* Q.Q

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None of the clans's leader's are or where perfect.

 

There's been mistakes by both clan leaders and medcats .

 

Look at tigerstar's father he just up and lefted his clan and mate and kits to become a kittypet.

 

Yellowfang fell in love with a clan leader and had kits with him and killed one of her own kits in the end.

 

 

leafpool though crow really loved her and he was just using her to forget about feathertail and end up having 3 kits. one of her kits killed ashfur and *maybe* dead . Her medcat son is blind and her other kit is brianless.

 

Bluestar took her kits to river clan even tho she loved them but was never really in love with there father.

 

Spottedleaf was gonnta mate with firestar and make misstake kits and turn thunderclan into j unk.

... you have most of these facts wrong. Bluestar loved Oakheart.

 

Tigerstar was born evil, so his parents must have been pretty stupid too.

 

Yellowfang killed Brokenstar because she had to, otherwise he would have destroyed thunderclan.

 

The leafpool thing could be true O_O

 

And Spottedleaf was a friggin med cat. Firestar was an apprentie back then. Sure, they fell in love, but Firestar would never have broken a rule. He was close to the warrior code, so would he mate with spottedleaf? No, didn't think so.

 

And Thunderclan wouldn't be turned to "j unk". Raggedstar and Yellowfang mated and shadowclan was j unk to begin with. And without Brokenstar, would there be a mission to find Windclan? Nope.

 

Get your facts right before stating them. >.>

 

I love yellowfang and cinderpelt biggrin.gif I hate crowfeather >.> Kinda hate sandstorm a little.....

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... you have most of these facts wrong. Bluestar loved Oakheart.

 

Tigerstar was born evil, so his parents must have been pretty stupid too.

 

Yellowfang killed Brokenstar because she had to, otherwise he would have destroyed thunderclan.

 

The leafpool thing could be true O_O

 

And Spottedleaf was a friggin med cat. Firestar was an apprentie back then. Sure, they fell in love, but Firestar would never have broken a rule. He was close to the warrior code, so would he mate with spottedleaf? No, didn't think so.

 

And Thunderclan wouldn't be turned to "j unk". Raggedstar and Yellowfang mated and shadowclan was j unk to begin with. And without Brokenstar, would there be a mission to find Windclan? Nope.

 

Get your facts right before stating them. >.>

 

I love yellowfang and cinderpelt biggrin.gif I hate crowfeather >.> Kinda hate sandstorm a little.....

I agree with you on most of these points, Konayuki, but I do have to disagree with a couple of points.

 

Tigerstar wasn't born evil. If you have read Code of the Clans, you will have noticed that he didn't seem too evil when he declared that ShadowClan would "always be his friends" after a patrol saved him from a fox when he was a kit. This is an additional short by Erin Hunter called Tigerstar: Heart of Evil, or Misplaced Ambition:

 

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Tigerstar stalked his way onstage in Into the Wild with a curled lip and his amber eyes narrowed in sinister fashion. Even before Ravenpaw revealed the horrid truth about Redtail’s death, we knew that this was a bad cat, one who would be Firestar’s implacable enemy until his dying breath. The scene was set for a classic tale of hero versus villain, ending in a bitter and bloody fight from which the hero emerges triumphant and the villain is, well, dead.

 

But fast forward to The Darkest Hour, and what is this? Tigerstar has been killed in a breathtakingly savage battle, but not by Firestar. Instead, our hero is left staring at his old enemy’s body, wishing with all his heart that he was still alive because the Clans need fearless and battle-skilled warriors to defeat BloodClan and save the forest. What happened to the classic tale of good versus evil? Perhaps Tigerstar was never the forest’s biggest villain after all…

 

There are few things that are absolutely certain in this world. Plenty of things seem to be certain- my dog is the cutest creature in the world, chocolate brownies are the best food ever, heavy metal music is the quickest way to give yourself a headache- but if you stop and think about it, it all depends on your point of view. Lots of people would think my dog is scary looking, one of my closest friends really doesn’t like chocolate (I know, he’s very strange!), and heavy metal bands have a huge following of dedicated fans. For all those people, their certainties are completely different.

 

Tigerstar seemed to be nothing but evil from the moment Firestar set paw in the forest- and it’s impossible to deny that he did some pretty awful things, from bullying Ravenpaw and killing Redtail to trying to murder Bluestar and luring the pack of dogs into ThunderClan’s camp with a trail of dead rabbits. Firestar wasn’t the only cat in ThunderClan to fear and hate Tigerstar in equal measure, and it seemed that all their fears came true when he appeared as leader of ShadowClan and launched his bloodthirsty campaign against half-Clan cats. But wait a moment! If he achieved his ambition to be the leader of a Clan, StarClan must have given him nine lives. That’s a pretty big sign of approval from the warrior ancestors! Didn’t they notice the bloodstained trail of havoc he’d left in ThunderClan?

 

The cats in StarClan have never willfully done anything to damage the Clans before, so they must have had their reasons for allowing Tigerstar to become a leader. And what about the cats in ShadowClan? Tigerstar clearly had their support, at least at the start of his leadership; even Tawnypelt left ThunderClan to be with her father in his new Clan. Perhaps Tigerstar wasn’t entirely bad, and maybe even quite good, from a different point of view.

 

If you look past his murderous plots to overthrow Bluestar and destroy Firestar’s credibility, you’ll find a brave, skilled warrior, utterly committed to protecting his Clan, proud of his kits, respectful of his ancestors, and loyal to the things that are most important to him. He was the strongest, most fearless fighter in ThunderClan and taught Firestar pretty much everything he knows about battle techniques. He had high standards for his own apprentices, and it’s not hard to imagine how much Ravenpaw must have frustrated him, being suited to neither fighting nor life in a busy Clan. When he joined ShadowClan, they were reeling from Nightstar’s death from greencough, which had revealed that he had never been given nine lives by StarClan. The former leader of ShadowClan, Brokenstar, was still alive, albeit blind and held prisoner by ThunderClan, and the warrior code does not permit two cats in the same Clan to have nine lives simultaneously. The cats in ShadowClan were scared, defenseless, and desperate for a proper leader that would make their Clan strong and proud once more. Tigerstar must have seemed like the perfect candidate, with his bold plans, his reputation as a brilliant fighter, and his loyalty to whichever Clan gave him the best opportunity for achieving power.

 

He inspired enough loyalty among his adopted Clanmates to launch his astonishing plan to take over the whole forest, with the help of BloodClan. Part of this plan was a private battle against half-Clan cats, leading to the death of Stonefur in RiverClan, when he tried to defend Graystripe’s kits. But when Tigerstar lost all his nine lives one after the other in a deadly clash with Scourge, Firestar felt nothing but grief. The biggest certainty then, from every Clan cat’s viewpoint, was that the forest had lost its greatest warrior, and the battle against BloodClan might be over already.

 

So much was wrong with Tigerstar’s path to power, it’s surprising he didn’t leave a trail of bloody paw prints behind him. Cats died and were wounded badly enough to prevent them from becoming warriors, one cat had to leave his Clan in secret to save his life, and Bluestar was almost driven mad by the depths of Tigerstar’s betrayal. But one cat’s enemy is another cat’s hero, or at least the answer to some of their problems, and Tigerstar deserves respect for what he achieved as much as he deserves to be punished for his crimes.

 

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So by and by, Tigerstar really isn't pure evil, it just depends on your point of view.

 

As for the parent statement, I believe PINESTAR was kinda stupid for leaving his son behind, but why Leopardfoot? What did she do?

 

I really don't believe in the theory that Crowfeather only went with Leafpool to forget about Feathertail. First off, why would he want to forget Feathertail? It is better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all. That's just like saying that Graystripe mated with Millie to forget about Silverstream. Cats- and people- can fall in love more than once in a lifetime. I'm pretty sure if Leafpool was just a tool, then Crowfeather would never have run off with her. Your family and Clan is a lot to give up for a tool.

 

All the ThunderClan meddies rock in their own special way. Yes, MoonJewels, even Leafpool. I love Crowfeather, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I was Sandy's biggest fan up until Midnight, and I was like, "Where the heck did all her personality go???" xd.png

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... i skipped the first book cuz they didn't have it in the library xd.png Sandstorm is kinda naggy.... I mean, in Firestar's quest, she kinda broke up with Firestar because she was angered when she knew that Firestar was still seeing Spottedleaf... it kinda annoyed me....

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... i skipped the first book cuz they didn't have it in the library xd.png Sandstorm is kinda naggy.... I mean, in Firestar's quest, she kinda broke up with Firestar because she was angered when she knew that Firestar was still seeing Spottedleaf... it kinda annoyed me....

I know, she was overreacting majorly in a major kind of way in a major kind of fashion. dry.gif

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