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Finding the Lost

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The list of known Lost lines is in the second post of the thread. If you have a Dorkface or Thuwed that traces back to an ancestor not on the list, we'd love to hear about it so we can keep piecing in bits of the puzzle. happy.gif

For non-broken lineaged Dorkfaces and Thuweds, please post in the Dorkface thread or the Thuwed thread respectively.

 

Most of the people involved in the Dorkface/Thuwed lineages know by now that the burning of a few scrolls has created what some call "Lost" Dorkfaces/Thuweds. This can be observed when following a dragon's lineage back to find Midas, etc, and instead finding the Dorkface line cut off by two "deceased" parents.

 

Eg: http://dragcave.net/lineage/0Uib <-- formerly a Dorkface Thuwed. Vaenn Hvitr Dorkface is a grandson of Midas Dorkface, and Allinizia is a descendant of Wect and Fadb Thuwed.

 

I've seen a bunch of threads posted concerning "Is this a real Dorkface??", as well as a lot of confusion in the Dorkface and Thuwed threads about the disappearing lineages. So what I thought would be nice, is if we could work together to try to identify all the real Dorkface and Thuwed dragons who have "deceased" parents, and keep a record of them for reference.

 

How?

 

Well, the Internet is a powerful tool. That information about Vaenn Hvitr and Allinzia I found through Google, and I'm sure there are other records out there. So here's what I'm asking:

 

If anyone has screencaps of lineages from before the burn with Dorkfaces/Thuweds that are now lost, this is a place to compile them. Likewise, if anyone has screencaps from GoogleCache shortly after the burning occurred, that would be very helpful as well. (I've tried looking at cached lineage pages, but Google seems to have crawled DC since the burning and now shows nothing.)

 

Besides screencaps, you can also use Google itself. Find a dragon with two "deceased" parents, and then Google:

 

site:dragcave.net Dragonsname

 

For example, here's a search I did to find info on Vaenn Hvitr Dorkface:

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp115/T...dingthelost.png

 

In the red box, you can see a link to Vaenn's lineage (his code is p68A). If you click it, all you get is the "apparent CB" dragon. But if you read the text under the link, you can see the dragon's heritage. The mother, Nenya's Faen Ithil Dorkface, is shown, as are Midas and Shallyna'ar. In the blue box, you can see Nenya's Faen Ithil Dorkface's page link. Once again, that page no longer exists, but you can see the names of her first few children in Google's preview.

 

If anyone is interested in helping, let me know! biggrin.gif I'll start a list of known "burned" Dorkface/Thuwed dragons and their immediate offspring in the second post.

 

DORKFACE Resource: Firewing's Dorkface List!

 

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The dragons will be listed in the following format:

 

Killed Dragon/Dragon from Burned Scroll

  • Offspring
  • Offspring
  • Offspring
Only the IMMEDIATE offspring will be listed (i.e., the dragon that now appears on lineages as the "end of the line" with two deceased parents).

 

 

 

DORKFACES:

 

 

Nenya's Faen Ithil Dorkface (M1cu) ~ Gen2

Nenya's Shami'ar Dorkface (70MC) ~ Gen2Nenya's Ithil Faradrim Dorkface (Fs0z) ~ Gen4Nenya's Shalya Dorkface (ofYn) ~ Gen3Nenya's Silivren Dorkface (Qrct) ~ Gen2Nenya's Glan Tirith Dorkface (cQvm) ~ Gen4Nenya's Faen Ninim (kBXu) ~ Gen3Niamh's Sterling Dorkface-Moon (9txV) ~ Gen4Niamh's Dorkface-Riddle (UVHA) ~ Gen4Melan Nenya (rCyP) ~ Gen5(eqdM) ~ Gen 5Tellervo Niamh Dorkface Maxwell ~ Gen7
  • Aku Dorkface Maxwell -- gone?
Burned(?) Dragons without Known Offspring
  • Nenya's Cicala Dorkface ~ Gen3
  • Nenya's Malthen Anor Dorkface (LIn9) ~ Gen3
  • Nenya's Ethuil Dorkface ~ Gen4
  • Niamh Dorkface-Riddle Maxwell ~ Gen5
  • Noir Niamh Dorkface-Riddle ~ Gen5
  • Jolie Niamh Dorkface Maxwell ~ Gen6
  • Vera Niamh Dorkface Maxwell ~ Gen7
Dorkface Offspring of Burned/Killed Parents (precise lineage unknown)

 

 

 

THUWEDS:

 

 

-from Wect x Fadb-

 

Nenya's Doed Fadb Thuwed (Jx2D)

  • Allinizia (zKaS)
  • Nenya's Wectod Jid (Mbt0) -- gone; scroll burned
  • (vmRb) -- frozen S1
Nenya's Wectod Jid (Mbt0)-from Jkedo x Woeto(? possibly actually Fadb)-

 

Tessonikus (KP5H)

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This gentleman is not from the parents you listed, TPishek, but he's from the broken lineage, regardless:

 

Screen Shot

 

If others need help getting screen shots of their cached lineage, they can always ask me. smile.gif

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War, I had to search using your dragon's mother's name. It not work so good with only code. sad.gif Loading up the screen shot right now. Will edit this post in a few.

 

CrazyWarGod's dragon's lineage

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Thanks, blackdragon71-- I've updated the list with Nenya's Shami'ar Dorkface and the offspring of hers that I was able to find through Google. smile.gif

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I have one I am trying to trace. Lon Dilia Del Dorkface is the gold in my black's linage. But Google only shows one of her offspring.

 

Her parents are both decided so there's no clue there.

 

ETA: Linage: http://dragcave.net/lineage/O4FO

I tried looking around Google but couldn't find anything on her heritage. Maybe someone else will have more luck? Google Cache doesn't seem to like me much today.

 

 

@ RMMC: Are you sure you posted the right lineage? There aren't any deceased dragons in that one.

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I think this is a great idea! Hopefully it'll help people keep track of things when google no longer has any of the old webpages stored.

 

Although google doesn't have my dorkface in its cache (http://dragcave.net/lineage/5TWZ) it does have one of its brothers (http://dragcave.net/lineage/vGT8).

 

I'm not sure how to take a snapshot but here is the link showing that serenity dorkface is the daughter of Nenya's Inti Raymi and Nenya's Silivren Dorkface and the granddaughter of Midas Dorkface and Shallyna'ar - cached lineage

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http://dragcave.net/lineage/6PBw

 

This used to be my White Dorkface. She's daughter of Nenya's Shalya Dorkface, and a CB gold. Her mother was also a white Dorkface, paired with another CB gold. They were also from the burnt scroll.

 

I'm searching for screenies, but this is all I have so far...

 

Edited to fix with new info and spelling.

 

Vasha actually found the lineage;

 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...n&ct=clnk&gl=uk

 

 

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What a mess... I'd put off checking my dorkies until now, but sure enough, I've got a lost one. And when I tried the site:dragcave.net search, the only useful link that came up already listed the deceased ancestor as deceased.

 

Anybody have evidence for Zysa's Lakia Dorkface's heritage?

 

 

*edit* My text file, while not as good as a screenshot, records the lineage like this:

John Ronald Reuel Dorkface (black, male) < Flavius Dorkface (alt black, male) < Zysa's Lakia Dorkface (alt black, female) < Zysa's Anastasia Dorkface (black, female) < Annora Dorkface (black, female) < <I>Veldrin - the Shadowdancer (black, male)</I> < <I>Shadow Link (black, male)</I> < (1XGQ unnamed gold male) < (lnC2 unnamed gold female) < Nekin Dorkface (white, male) < Nastia Jin Dorkface (white, female) < Bai Jin Dorkface (white, male) < Midas Dorkface and Shallyna'ar

This is Annora Dorkface (Nekin Dorkface has apparently lost his name somewhere along the line. o_O), and Google confirms Zysa's Anastasia Dorkface as having been one of her children; Zysa's Anastasia Dorkface seems to be the lost link here. Unfortunately there seems to be no way to connect them with Zysa's Lakia Dorkface. Even the Wayback Machine didn't help this time. But at least it's a start.

 

T'Pishek, thanks for posting this; it's a great idea.

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Awesome awesome... Big thanks to everyone who's posted; I've got a bunch more Dorkface leads now, and I've updated the list somewhat. I have to go to work right now, but I'll update it more and take/upload a bunch of screenshots of Google Cached lineages I've found when I get back home. biggrin.gif

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I tried looking around Google but couldn't find anything on her heritage. Maybe someone else will have more luck? Google Cache doesn't seem to like me much today.

 

 

@ RMMC: Are you sure you posted the right lineage? There aren't any deceased dragons in that one.

I'm sure. She was my first Skywing and had a tremendous, but clean, lineage that had included the fake Thuwed. I fear it's one of those that was on one of the big scroll-burnings. It's been long enough that those suddenly have bred ancestors that now show as CBs. It hit a big branch of the Dorkface lineage as well.

 

Thanks for trying. *hug*

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My skywing had a fake Thuwed lineage: http://dragcave.net/lineage/3ogB

But it was amusing. It is now sadly gone.

 

Help, please?

Did some more Google hunting.

 

From what I can tell, the CB Mint (aios, on Hal0's scroll) used to be named Madk Thuwed. Halo's scroll was recently name-wiped because she's been inactive. However, the scroll was not burned, aios still exists and her view page shows that she has always been CB, and is not a "false CB" created by the burnings-- for those dragons, their parents are listed as "deceased", even though they look CB on the lineage page.

 

Links: http://dragcave.net/view/aios

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp115/T...ywingsearch.png

 

Hope that helps. smile.gif

 

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Google Cache screenshots:

Artemis Silverbow Dorkface

Serenity Dorkface

Neala Dorkface

Seliana Dorkface

Asellina Iduen Dorkface

Queen Dorkface - Sha the Great

Zysa's Adisa Dorkface

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Bump bump.

 

Also, if anyone would like to make banners, that would be appreciated as well. smile.gif

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Hi! I think I found anoher offspring of Nenya's Shami'ar Dorkface. I googled this dragon and found this:

 

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I think the code in bold is one of the offspring. I found the code's page and it is now called Dorkface Keeper and the parents show as deceased.

 

I also found another three offspring of Nenya's Shalya Dorkface:

And one of Nenya's Faen Ninim: Jian-Dorkface Vi Britannia

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Hello! I just saw this thread. Queen Dorkface - Sha the Great is one of mine. She was the matriarch of my PB DF line, although I don't really breed her anymore (unless by request). I know that she's not the only DF I had who was affected. If it would help, then I'll go back through mine sometime when I have some extra time and list all the ones I have whose lineages are now broken. I know all mine are "real" DFs (well, except for one!)

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Thank you, Raistlin24! I've put those dragons in the master list. ^-^

 

And Ahavah, that probably would be really helpful!

 

I have updated the list with links and codes where possible.

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I'm unable to do any searches atm, but I do have one lost Dorkface to add. You'll have to ask Cinnamin Draconna exactly which ancestor it was, if she knows. The child of the Dorkface is a Wild Dragon now, code SOW3, a Gold.

 

I can't post links at either (sorry), but if you look at the top of my scroll, it's the Gold at just under the eggs/hatchies, Element's Glow Dorkface Draconna. You'll see the tombstones if you check the lineage. I've given out quite a few offspring, as you can see, in case anyone is confused why I named it DF. lol Hope it helps. happy.gif

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Gyps, I think it is one of the relatives to Nenya's Faen Ithil Dorkface.

I couldn't get an exact lineage to post, but I did get this.

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The unnamed gold is Fluffy Heart of Gold Dorkface.

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I believe xdlugia is correct. happy.gif It's

 

Midas Dorkface x Shallyna'ar -> Nenya's Faen Ithil Dorkface x Nenya's Dhatri -> Fluffy Heart of Gold Dorkface (SOW3) (actually not Wild, just had her name wiped) x Mercury Moon's White Knight (8y1q) -> White Heart Dorkface Draconna.

 

@isil7: I haven't managed to find any info on that dragon yet, but I'll keep looking. ^-^()

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