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I'm inclined to ask a few questions 1. Do you feel paying taxes is a bad thing? Is it bad to financially support the government and endeavors that promote broad prosperity, safety, and access, or is it that everything is presently expensive and seeing that money go away is painful? 2. Do you think that people who purchase American made goods, such as cars, should be able to have those goods paid for by the government (ex. a tax deduction of funds that would otherwise go into the government)? 3. Do you think that tariffs will make products more affordable? Are you aware of how much you buy is not American made? 4. Are you concerned about the retaliatory tariffs?

Have you guys seen the stats that Election Truth Alliance are putting out, and what do you think about them?

I really appreciated that read. I sincerely hope they're correct. I appreciated their point of view, as I've been following all of this very closely. You should definitely send emails and make phone calls to your reps. Your 2 senators and your district's rep at least. If they're republican that's even better because they're the ones in power right now, you need to tell them their foundation needs the government tools that are currently being dismantled. They just started accessing extremely sensitive data from the IRS and SSA in the last day or so - information on literally every tax payers accounts, personal lives (married filing jointly for example, or child tax credits), businesses, etc. And the whole situation with Eric Adams shows they aren't above extortion (getting the charges dropped in exchange for help with ICE immigration efforts, but still with the possibility of being retried for the same crimes). On top of that they're killing the Department of Education, which will end FAFSA for college students, and support for disabled students in primary school. They're going after Medicare and Medicaid which primarily supports the elderly (pretty much anyone retired) and foster care/otherwise disadvantaged children. They killed USAID which while on the surface it supplies help to many countries externally and people like to talk about soft power, the main ramifications at home will be loss of farmer income as USAID purchases a lot from them, but eventually this will likely lead to much lower foreign protection against election interference by our enemies. Same goes for departments like Homeland Security, CIA, FBI, all of our intelligence type agencies that keep us safe. Then you have the FAA with simply being able to fly safely. You also have the National Park Service to keep our lands safe for visitors to parks, protect against spreading pests and risk of wild fires. Lastly there's the CDC and other health departments while we have things like bird flu, tuberculosis, and measles spreading. Lastly, with us slash and burning enemy relationships trade deals will sour, and I'm wondering if we might see the dollar as a base form of currency falter. Send emails, make calls, get involved with organizations like Indivisible or 50501 which schedule protests and organize action like collectively visiting a Senator or Representative. You alone have at least 1 voice, when added to others it acts exponentially, not linearly. They aren't even done yet. In my opinion, it's clear they're actively trying to gut everything and I can't seem them doing that in this specific fashion without the specific intent to actively destroy us and how our government works. They aren't being precise about anything. Today they had OSHA delete any files with the words "diverse" in them, not even in a DEI context. Same for NSA documents (IT type documents) with words like "priority", and NIH funded medical research grants with words as common as "female". They're just blanket deleting everything. Decades of documentation and research. God I hope that article above is right. I'm not running away though. I'm staying to do my part, even if it means I might never achieve my own dreams. I hope to have a home, a kid or two, and a simple garden where I can grow my peppers in peace and cook good food, but I fear if too many people run this virus will spread. I'm hoping we might at least be an example to other countries that they need to get their far right sides in check.

Have: CB female holly I could breed with male Valentines or other breeds I could also breed her with this: Heartseeker x Holly Open to make other deals/offers Want: 1 CB Fenghuo egg or hatchling (I'm just having really bad luck catching a second one and I don't have much time 😅) Feel free to message!

Yes, they certainly exist. They're just very very rare. Here's the lineage of a 3G PB holly, descended from my female holly. I used to be way more active, but I keep a list of all the female holly holders I know if (my list includes 19 so seems I'm missing at least 2) and it seems only 5 have bred so far this year, and only 7 have been bred in the last 2 years (2022-2024).

Finished it Saturday

Thank you! Here's another I just finished of a character of mine: And here's a drawing I was just commissioned to do that I'm in progress on:

It's been quite a while since I've posted in this thread but I figured I'd add some more since I still draw plenty! I post more on twitter now so if you'd like to see my work there please check it out: https://twitter.com/GlassLotuses This is a character from a story I've been working on for a long time (same story as the bust of the four women, and the image of the two guys) These were some DnD commissions I did! One of my own tabletop rpg characters from 13th Age!

Hmm warmth and garland huh? Very interesting

I intend to breed my female holly and my new male holly next year and make a PB holly! Much hype.

Well a CB male holly to go with my CB female will be amazing

So while we're not quite passed the 14 day mark I did do a count again, and there were still only 38 hollies bred that I can see for a total of 101 2gs. There were at least 6 eggs/hatchlings that died so the real total was more like 107, but I only count the living. Whether or not it was 101 or 107, though, the average eggs per clutch is significantly lower than the past 3 years, when it was 3.4-3.5. This year it was 2.7 (101). Basically, this years breedings were not very lucky. However, the difference between the number of hollies bred in subsequent years was smaller this year. We're getting to a point where the holly owners left are more dedicated, it seems like. The holly which held the title of most prolific in terms of 2g holly offspring maintained its title this year, with 28 living 2g holly offspring. (You know who you are, you awesome breeder you, if you read this anyway). But two other hollies closed the gap and are just 2 2g holly offspring away from tying. We'll see what happens with that next year. Golds were the most common mate this year, with 6 used. Silver lunars, monarchs, and gaia xenos were the next most commonly used, each were used 3 times. As far as I know there are 848 2g offspring now in existence. Not all of those are adults, but most are. If anyone needs help with lineage creation, I'm always willing and happy to help people make pretty holly lineages. I'll be transferring over data sheet info and things soon.

After my check for today, I've seen 38 hollies bred for a total of 93 eggs. Keep in mind the most accurate stuff won't be out until 2 weeks from today (when all of the ones bred today have 100% either died, grown up, or been frozen). At the moment, there is one clutch at 6d, one at 6d9h, and one at 6d22h, for those AP hunting.

He was behind the banana tree for me, took me forever because of his coloring

Added your stuff, ceri. Also, after my search today I found that 35 hollies have been bred, for a total of 84 visible 2gs.

Alrighty, I added yours to the 3rd post, your first link was the same as the second though, which I assume was unintentional. So after today's check only one more holly was bred, creating a total of 30 hollies and 67 new eggs.

5:32 PM PST: Just saw a few holly x gold eggs that were at 6d13h, so keep an eye out for those in the AP, as they should drop in about 6 hours. 5:38 PM PST: Just saw a few holly x white eggs that were at 6d14h. Again, keep an eye out for those in about 6 hours. After today's check there are 29 hollies which have been bred, for a total of 65 visible 2gs. Keep in mind, I can't see fogged eggs, so that egg count is probably lower than what it actually is. The most accurate data won't be available until 2 weeks after the event ends, but this is a nice snapshot of the state of the hollies.

2nd gens aren't super common and there's actually fewer and fewer new ones each year because CB owners are slowly going inactive (check my holly data sheet in my signature or the holly tracking thread). Last I calculated, 2g were at least 4x or more valuable than 2g prizes based on how many exist (not public desire). 3rd gens are a bit more common, and 4th gens are more so. Checkers aren't very common though because it involves talking to multiple active holly owners who own the same gender holly. Stairs and spirals are far more common, and gold mates are one of the most often used. -advice from a cb holly owner

Not sure how many people are watching this thread, but I will be holding a lotto in the dragonlotto irc at 5:40 PM PST (5 minutes from now). https://dragcave.net/lineage/ip9iu https://dragcave.net/lineage/asxdp https://dragcave.net/lineage/42xYn I'll draw 3 numbers, and the winners will get to choose in the order drawn. I don't care what you do with the eggs, be it trade, freeze, or AP, just don't kill it

4:19 PM PST: Alrighty everyone, I just bred and dropped my own holly eggies. So 3 gold x hollies will be hitting the AP in roughly 17 hours if I'm counting correctly. 4:38 PM PST: Looks like another holly just bred to a chrono, the eggs are currently at 7 days. There were at least 3. 5 PM PST: within the last 22 minutes it went down to 6d23h, to give you a more accurate time frame. 4:49 PST: 3 holly x indigo lunar eggs should be dropping in roughly 4 hours. The eggs were at 6d10h when I checked a moment ago. I am currently in the IRC giving updates as I find them if you'd like faster information.

Here is one really impressive lineage someone made using my holly: White Stripe Checker I love being a part of lineages and breeding out of season holly babies to help people build things like this And then there's this that's being passed from holly owner to holly owner: http://dragcave.net/lineage/DIj1t

Just a quick update: So far as I've seen, 13 hollies have been bred for a total of 26 visible eggs. Quite a few have been bred to monarchs. In the last hour I saw 2 hollies that had been bred 14 hours prior, 1 bred 12 hours prior, and one bred 2 hours prior to when I checked. So if you're hunting keep that in mind. I haven't checked all the hollies yet, but I've checked the ones I know where active. This doesn't take into account fogged eggs which I can't see. Edit: A CB holly was just bred to a caligene, it bred 3 eggs. ~1 PM PST

Ooh cool, first page! Thanks for the update!

All people and dragons listed here have been put here with their permission. If you wish to be on this list please state in a post which holly or hollykin you would like on one of these lists, and which list you’d like them on. Hollies People Have for Breeding Purposes: Caveborn mo7 - Female - In season trades arranged until ~2018 but feel free to ask about out of season 2gmo7 - Female holly (Christmisunderstanding) x pyrope, from Lotus of Christmisunderstandings, have checker mate oilbird - Male holly (DrWho) x blusang 3gmo7 - Male holly x Bright breasted wyvern stair from Saint Holly cerimonster - 3rd Gen Stairstep x Male Golds (Have mate of choice to go with - 2 male golds) cerimonster - 3rd gen EG checker x Pinks (old and new) (No matching mate, but you may have mate of choice cerimonster - 3rd gen male holly x Pinks (old and new) 4gmo7 - Male holly x Bright breasted wyvern stair from Saint Holly cerimonster - 4th gen Alternating SS x Skywings and white Stripes Your mate of choice 5gmo7 - White x holly spiral line from Hollyberry Mixed cerimonster - 4th gen EG mixed line cerimonster - 5th gen EG Hollies/Hollykin People Hope to Find Mates for: [*] cerimonster - 2nd gen female holly x Radiant angel (**Have organized for a 2nd gen radiant angel mate already**) [*] cerimonster - him either a third gen Bright pink checker ith male hollies or 2nd gen holly x female bright pink and 2nd gen female bright pink x holly. Holly Lines on Display:Holly Hearts Line which is being passed from CB holly owner to CB holly owner

Basic CB Holly Stats CB Holly Breeding Stats CB Holly Owner Activity Based on Preceding Halloween Event Participation I didn’t start doing an official holly forecast until this year, so this section will be more filled out in coming years. *2g egg number is based on a 3.4 egg per clutch average as seen in years 2013-2016 CB Holly Owner Activity Based on Preceding Halloween Event Participation cont. 2016 Mates that Have Been Done Before: Based on CB mates only, there are a handful of nonCB mates. To see a more detailed look at mates, check the document in the first post. Male Holly Mates Albino (1x) Aria (19x) Black (4x) Blacktip (1x) Blusang Lindwurm (1x) Brightbreasted Wyvern (4x) Canopy (1x) Carmine Wyvern (1x) Electric (1x) Falconiform (1x) Fever Wyvern (1x) Frill (2x) Gold (5x) Greenwing Spotted (1x) Guardian (3x) Golden Wyvern (4x) Black Marrow (Halloween 10) (1x) Harvest (1x) Horse (1x) Ice (3x) Lunar Herald Silver (1x) Magi (2x) Magma (1x) Nebula Red (4x) Neotropical (3x) Pillow (1x) Pink (4x) Purple (7x) Red (4x) Autumn Seasonal (2x) Winter Seasonal (11x) Silver (2x) Skywing (1x) Stripe (1x) Suncrowned (Yellow Crowned) (1x) Terrae (2x) Thunder (1x) Tsunami (1x) Turpentine (1x) Rosebud (Val ‘11) (5x) White (41x) Gaia Xenowyrm (1x) Female Holly MatesBlacktip (1x) Blue-Banded (1x) Blusang Lindwurm (1x) Deep Sea (1x) Ember (1x) Frill (1x) Gold (12x) Guardian of Nature (5x) Golden Wyvern (3x) Black Marrow (Halloween ‘10)(1x) Horse (3x) Lunar Herald Gold (2x) Magma (2x) Purple (2x) Pyrope Pyralspite (1x) Royal Blue (1x) Royal Crimson (1x) Silver (4x) Speckle-Throated (1x) Stripe (4x) Sunsong Amphiptere (1x) Swallowtail (2x) Terrae (1x) Thunder (1x) Sweetling (Val ‘10) (1x) Radiant Angel (Val ‘14) (1x) White (5x) Gaia Xenowyrm (1x)