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    Edit: TJ says he won't reconsider banning my scroll, and that I should stop bothering him. So thank you to all the people who tried to help me, but I guess I won't be breeding any eggs for anyone :(

    I'll probably take this whole long thing down soon, but I'm leaving it up at least right now for anyone who wanted to know the outcome, and because I haven't yet decided what to put in its place.

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    My current project is to get my scroll restored. It was burned for "multiscrolling," which I did not do. TJ's own records will show that, but he is not reading the pm's I send him to explain that.

    So I'm requesting as many people as possible to send TJ09 a pm, asking him to restore Nat's scroll.
    If it's restored, I am offering to breed a BSA dragon for each person who asks me to. They will be mostly 2G purebreds, although I can do some 3G purebreds and some 2G with other-breed parents (CB holidays, for example). I have lots of orange (magi), red, and pink dragons, also some purple and white dragons to breed from.

    Timeline of my scroll problem:
    July 26, 2018 came home from a family vacation
    August 3, my scroll (Nat) and my daughter's scroll (Vict) were burned
    I assumed an error (caused by traveling together), and pm'd TJ.
    August 18, I pm'd TJ again.
    August 20, TJ responded:
    "Your accounts were indeed identified as being multiple accounts, but no it was not wrongly so. There is clear evidence of egg funneling (i.e. many one-sided trades) that indicates that the accounts were being used primarily by one person, rather than by two people."

    That is the entire text of TJ's response.
    I sent him another pm at once, and about one each week since then, but he has not read any of them. (It's over a month now, since the only response he gave me.)

    How can "many one-sided trades" be multi-scrolling?
    TJ created teleport, the forums are full of gifting threads, and TJ has never posted any limits about using it.

    Mutiple accounts in one household are explicitly permitted in the FAQ, "as long as each person sticks to their own scroll."
    source: https://forums.dragcave.net/topic/48-frequently-asked-questions/?tab=comments#comment-4319268

    I only played my scroll, Vict only played her scroll.
    Proof that we each played our own scroll includes:

    (A)
    Nat, me, was the one who sent teleports. I was also raising lots of dragons for myself (see list at the bottom of this page). I did not gift to Vict any of the "good" dragons (CB gold, CB silver, CB copper, 2G prize). They were either traded to others through the trading hub, or kept for myself. I also have a history of gifting dragons to other people: either I'm "multi-scrolling" with at least 4 people over many years, some of whom live a long ways away, or I'm an individual who sometimes gifts dragons (you know, with the feature TJ made.)

    Vict, who received the trades, was also raising lots of other dragons at all times. She has remained consistently active, even when I (Nat) take breaks between new releases. Her being active when I'm not shows that she is a separate person playing her own scroll, not a secondary scroll of mine.

    (B)
    My scroll was started in 2008. Here's one of my oldest dragons:
    https://dragcave.net/view/urAs

    Vict's scroll was started in 2012. Here's one of her dragons from that year:
    https://dragcave.net/view/BvTpn

    If we have been separate people for all those years, how can we be one person now?

    (C) TJ's own records:
    If TJ logs the time of actions, he can see that Vict reliably does things earlier in the morning ("before school"), and Nat stays up much later at night. We are both active in the afternoons and weekends, while she's NOT active during school hours (but I am).

    If TJ looks at the total number of actions, he can see that gifting from my scroll to hers was only a small part of the activity for each scroll, for any time that he may choose to examine.

    If TJ looks at what actions happened on what days, he can see that I often take days and weeks off between releases/breeding projects, while Vict is more consistently active.

    Vict and I use different computers, and are probably running different browser versions. If TJ records this info, it will show that my scroll is consistently access from one computer, hers from the other.

    (D) Publicly available data:
    Anyone can see that we name our dragons differently, at the Wayback Machine captures of our scrolls:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20130119151233/dragcave.net/user/Nat
    https://web.archive.org/web/20160417013844/dragcave.net/user/Vict
    (That's mine from 2013 and Vict's from 2016. My dragons that say "Pauline's" or "Kristin's" are because I have a habit of letting young children choose names for my dragons, while they're too young for scrolls of their own. Vict tells me that her names are often based on the code of the dragon, which can be seen by mousing over the images on that captured page.)

    Anyone can also see (get codes from the Wayback Machine, or see a list at the bottom of this) that I have lots of CB dragons and their 2G offspring, while she has lots of bred/lineaged dragons, most of which have parents that are NOT MINE. Clearly, she has a history of either trading or AP hunting. (I think it's mostly AP, at least until the trading hub was introduced.)

    Anyone can see that we both post in the game thread, "How high can you count before a mod posts." (My user name and scroll are both Nat; hers are Vict.) Note that she's absent during "school hours" and late at night, while I post at any time.

    Anyone can look at the dragons I recently raised (list at bottom of this) as proof that I was quite busy playing MY OWN SCROLL during the two months before it was burned. Each shows owner's name "Nat," and dates.

    So please pm TJ for me, and if my scroll gets restored, pm me to breed you an egg. You can choose its parents, within reason (any common CB is fine. Rare-breed parents only as available.)

    Lists of dragons I raised, bred, or froze since June 1, 2018.
    These are to show how much not-gifting-to-Vict activity I did.
    These lists are probably not complete (I was searching my browser history, and surely missed some.)
    But every dragon listed belongs to me (owner: Nat), and every dragon listed either grew/froze on my scroll in the past few months, or I bred it to produce offspring in the past few months.

    Adult dragons raised by Nat since the beginning of June 2018:

    dragcave.net/view/roouK Siyat
    dragcave.net/view/0L2tf
    dragcave.net/view/hPh7p
    dragcave.net/view/rjFsb
    dragcave.net/view/Zit63
    dragcave.net/view/LCZ9V
    dragcave.net/view/RzCVM

    dragcave.net/view/iczae Mimic pygmy
    dragcave.net/view/fL1Hl
    dragcave.net/view/HLzHN
    dragcave.net/view/8ibFm
    dragcave.net/view/5sbrd
    dragcave.net/view/1lH3t

    dragcave.net/view/X1XsG Black Truffle
    dragcave.net/view/LeQVs
    dragcave.net/view/zO7vh
    dragcave.net/view/qaFML
    dragcave.net/view/olXg9
    dragcave.net/view/NtxS1

    dragcave.net/view/ygveb Pyrovar
    dragcave.net/view/CScIk
    dragcave.net/view/xC4zI
    dragcave.net/view/nF8Jt
    dragcave.net/view/lbRaq
    dragcave.net/view/NZEPj

    dragcave.net/view/Tijwb CB red
    dragcave.net/view/4zKYB
    dragcave.net/view/iqE8t
    dragcave.net/view/Etsrm
    dragcave.net/view/MQgXW
    dragcave.net/view/PYB3n
    dragcave.net/view/CXYD2

    dragcave.net/view/YW1q0 Red, bred by me
    dragcave.net/view/15NNG
    dragcave.net/view/gqwgu
    dragcave.net/view/b8Kvm
    dragcave.net/view/GOrDm
    dragcave.net/view/4Aq4P
    dragcave.net/view/oDHg7
    dragcave.net/view/PtbMC
    dragcave.net/view/7qvBy
    dragcave.net/view/gWA2N
    dragcave.net/view/dIMUo
    dragcave.net/view/gQxbG
    dragcave.net/view/gwaXx
    dragcave.net/view/xmABZ

    dragcave.net/view/ErGcV Magi
    dragcave.net/view/XJRCr
    dragcave.net/view/05ywT
    dragcave.net/view/m6DeD
    dragcave.net/view/r6UQp

    dragcave.net/view/6Q6gx Purple
    dragcave.net/view/ITqrO
    dragcave.net/view/QEq7B
    dragcave.net/view/lr6yw
    dragcave.net/view/HtiUN
    dragcave.net/view/0nKHs
    dragcave.net/view/cCjDV
    dragcave.net/view/lJK6s
    dragcave.net/view/KAxEE
    dragcave.net/view/CsapC

    dragcave.net/view/zy01Y CB Stripe
    dragcave.net/view/dkvwJ

    dragcave.net/view/cAxuI Stripe, bred by me
    dragcave.net/view/JYYBp
    dragcave.net/view/GTkal
    dragcave.net/view/rqQaV
    dragcave.net/view/aBgma

    dragcave.net/view/Y9CsE 2G prize
    dragcave.net/view/VuTi7 3G prize
    dragcave.net/view/uKKx9
    dragcave.net/view/kdTp2 4G prize
    dragcave.net/view/1sXPu

    dragcave.net/view/kg8H1 CB silver
    dragcave.net/view/ptNpp

    dragcave.net/view/wGGAt CB copper
    dragcave.net/view/UGo31 CB copper

    dragcave.net/view/tzY8i CB xenowyrm

    dragcave.net/view/FLpDO Aeon wyvern

    dragcave.net/view/WLtGv Carina, bred by me
    dragcave.net/view/Ad1jq

    dragcave.net/view/CYgZP CB Spring Seasonal

    dragcave.net/view/cn1wv Spinel Wyvern, alt bred by me
    dragcave.net/view/LFsm7 CB gold floret wyvern


    Dragons I froze (each shows owner's name "Nat," and dates of stealing/breeding and hatching.)
    I bred all of these, except the 4 labelled "CB"
    dragcave.net/view/6c5kM
    dragcave.net/view/AaMh6
    dragcave.net/view/EVcJX
    dragcave.net/view/VXZCv
    dragcave.net/view/S6Biz
    dragcave.net/view/S1q3p
    dragcave.net/view/3UNfE
    dragcave.net/view/KOIPX
    dragcave.net/view/YB7kJ
    dragcave.net/view/1zOzG
    dragcave.net/view/kkOhc
    dragcave.net/view/C4apC
    dragcave.net/view/fs4TA
    dragcave.net/view/Nm2F2
    dragcave.net/view/mcJTX
    dragcave.net/view/bZTH9
    dragcave.net/view/F9X8U
    dragcave.net/view/sbb6M
    dragcave.net/view/27g6O CB paper
    dragcave.net/view/ezimu
    dragcave.net/view/LnU5n
    dragcave.net/view/RRYMY
    dragcave.net/view/T2Y0P
    dragcave.net/view/a0stJ
    dragcave.net/view/R25uv
    dragcave.net/view/cpbm3
    dragcave.net/view/rYWLt
    dragcave.net/view/Ya4sK
    dragcave.net/view/UZqwF
    dragcave.net/view/ulEJe
    dragcave.net/view/NXjzX
    dragcave.net/view/7zJN0
    dragcave.net/view/pKpIu
    dragcave.net/view/9GVNR CB dino
    dragcave.net/view/a9VhO CB dino
    dragcave.net/view/dTkFW CB dino
    dragcave.net/view/0J7Hc
    dragcave.net/view/V0ozJ
    dragcave.net/view/M8ZIi
    dragcave.net/view/ItIps
    dragcave.net/view/UfFAl
    dragcave.net/view/IJRSr
    dragcave.net/view/IumSl
    dragcave.net/view/aSQeB
    dragcave.net/view/LSAFd
    dragcave.net/view/1zMuX



    Dragons I bred, with offspring that are no longer on my scroll:
    I have listed progeny pages of my own dragons, rather than directly listing dragons that belong to other people.

    https://dragcave.net/progeny/Shiny CB prize: bred at least 5 times in June/July. Kept 1, traded/gifted/AP'd the rest.
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/vn64 Bred a frill baby in June
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/tgFg Bred 3 geode babies in June/July--1 now belongs to Vict, other 2 to others. (Wanted pebble, got geodes)
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/fsrKt Bred 1 "wrong color" gemshard
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/9WubT Bred 1 "wrong color" gemshard
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/f7h8 Bred 1 summer seasonal--I think it was for a trade; certainly is not mine or Vict's now.
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/LG1AR Seasonal: 1 for me, 1 other (trade/gift/AP-- cannot remember now)
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/dkBj Seasonal: 1 for me, 1 other
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/6dWl Seasonal: 1 for me, 2 others
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/pAYnM Lumina: was trying for dark, got light
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/DXbg Ice: 1 for me, 1 for someone else
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/pKzny Bred 1 "wrong color" gemshard
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/OE70 Bred 2 "wrong color" dorsals
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/nnqvO Bred 1 nebula and 2 5G prizes for others
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/hLLor Bred a silver for someone else
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/DdXUv Bred 3G prize, for 3 different people
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/HZ96G Bred 3, for 3 different people (2 silvers, 1 royal blue)
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/le1YW 1 wrong-color stripe for someone else (several "right" ones for me)
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/XFek9 "Wrong color" stripes: 1 to Vict, 2 to others
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/eNm4 3 "wrong color" stripes in 2018: 2 to Vict, 1 to someone else.
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/UFvBt 1 "wrong color" stripe to someone
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/Vk8YF 2 "wrong color" stripes in 2018: 1 to Vict, 1 to someone else
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/03mCK 1 "wrong color" stripe to someone
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/RuJPe Bred 2 stripes: 1 for me, 1 for someone else
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/fHyLm Bred 2 stripes: 1 for me, 1 for someone else
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/HISY summer seasonal from 2 autumns
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/YvXV summer seasonal from 2 autumns
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/c7Fq summer seasonal from 2 autumns
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/7Pi3X
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/ucVK0 Gemshard: 1 for me, 1 for someone else
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/TCFZ Nebula to AP, Carina for me
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/8sNpL
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/bskD Nebula to AP, Carina for me
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/bbdh9
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/u0bCK

    BSA dragons that I bred in June/July (most the offspring found homes through the AP; I labelled any whose babies are now mine or Vict's)

    https://dragcave.net/progeny/oDHg7
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/MQgXW
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/QC2L2 2 AP, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/4ipDL 1 AP, 1 mine, 1 Vict
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/KgCN3 2 AP, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/PYB3n 1 AP, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/E8jq
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/yVJU 1 AP, 1 Vict
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/bRZ1E 2 AP, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/FHwy0
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/huHRF 1 AP, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/95B0
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/ijGx 1 AP, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/6AjIz 1 AP, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/xtL96
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/tR7c0 1 AP, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/2PHu
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/HeqJ
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/FZm5 1 Ap, 1 mine
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/pOttR
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/c8VJ5
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/30Rx3
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/r7dPs
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/DyoRy
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/nW3c4
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/HPLbm
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/I5NjE
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/2QvF
    https://dragcave.net/progeny/Gpnt