Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) Sign ups are closed This game is just like any old other bingo except we use dragons. And don't have a board; instead, we just count whether or not you have the dragon(s). We're just that awesome. Signing up to Play To sign up, all you have to do is post and let me know that you're in/you're playing/whatever wording you want. State your trophy level, for ease of grouping (No Trophy, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, "Diamond"). For the purposes of our little game, there are two levels for platinum; anything over 4000 dragons is considered diamond level. For those who just want to be different, there is also a "whatever" level that is open to anyone with any trophy level. Finally, you must post your scroll name (no link required). For an explanation of trophies, how many dragons you have to have for each, and what trophy you have, see this help page: https://dragcave.net/help/egglimits. Rules Only players who are signed up may post bingos. Sign-ups will remain open for 48+ hours, depending on the number of players, and will close before the second round begins, unless the host extends them. You may sign up until sign-ups are closed. There is a 25-dragon minimum to play. As long as a bingo is listed as active, it may be claimed; aside from flash bingos, which will be available for a set amount of time, starting with and stated at time of posting. Once it is listed as expired, however, it is no longer viable. Dead eggs/hatchlings/dragons do not count as part of the game, unless stated otherwise. Only adult dragons and frozen hatchlings count for bingos, unless stated otherwise. If you move up a trophy level during the game, you don't change your in-game trophy group (if you hit 200 dragons in the middle of the game, you'd still be classified a Bronze). If you do not have a dragon that fits the description, merely wait until I announce the next dragon. Editing is allowed to an extent; posts that were edited over 10 minutes after the original time of posting will not be viable for claiming bingos. If in doubt, repost. If I have posted after the post you wish to edit, please just post again, so I can see what you were going to add. May seem silly to list, but hosts may not play the game while they are hosting. Gameplay At varying times in the day, bingos will be announced in the form of a certain condition (e.g. "CB metallic" or "even-gen tinsel"). If one of your dragons fits the bingo's condition, you can claim the bingo. You can only claim each bingo once. Every bingo you claim earns you the number of points assigned to it. If you get up to a certain number of points (or higher), you win the game. When the first person reaches the required number of points (or higher), everyone will get an extra 48 hours to get their bingos in before the game ends. The winner will be determined by overall points proportional to the player's trophy level. In the case of a tie, the host can either consider the first person who posted a winner or have a tiebreaker round. Bingos will come up at varying times and will remain active for a few hours to a few days at a time; multiple people can claim the same bingo (unless stated otherwise) as long as they all meet the necessary condition(s). There may be multiple bingos up for grabs at one time, so do your best not to miss such opportunities! If the host has gone inactive/unresponsive in this thread for any reason for at least one month, with no new Bingo round posted, players are free to discuss beginning a new game, with a host to be determined by current players. The original Bingo game may continue if the host returns, but the winner(s) will not be selected to host a new game, although they may still request an egg from the host, if they wish. Different Types of Bingos Regular Bingos These will just be labeled as bingos and will be posted by the host in the thread. Anyone playing can claim them. They are up for grabs until the host has posted saying they are expired. Challenge Bingos These bingos will be labeled as "challenge bingos" and will be posted alongside regular bingos. The conditions required to meet such challenge bingos are more difficult or have more specific requirements than regular bingos (for example, "an eighth-gen even-gen", "a fourth-gen stairstep", "a dragon with more than one spriter's alt in it", "a dragon bred on Nov. 1st of any year", etc.). Only one person can claim a challenge bingo. The first person to post a dragon that fits the requirements gets the point for that challenge bingo. Secret Bingos Secret bingos are bingos that are hidden somewhere and will usually (but not necessarily) be labeled with "secret" and "bingo" or "secret" and the breed name. These bingos can be found in my posts within this thread, my profile, and my scroll. Secret bingos can be put in play at any time and may or may not be announced. They can also only be claimed by one person. The first person to post who has a dragon that fits the requirements will get the secret bingo. These bingos are usually pretty easy, usually easier than or as easy as a regular bingo. Flash Bingos Flash bingos have at time limit. For example, I might post a bingo at 4:00pm and say that it ends at 8:00pm; only people who post a dragon that fits the requirements before eight will get credit. Flash bingos are posted at various times of the day to give different people the opportunity to claim them. Cascade Bingos Cascade bingos generally have three or more choices of the same type of dragon. Each successive choice is harder and earns more points. For example, claiming option A earns you one point, while C earns three points. You can claim only one of them. Tricky Bingos Tricky bingos have a set of instructions that you need to follow to work out which dragon is the bingo. These bingos are usually worth 2 points. Co-op Bingos These require two or more people to team up and claim the bingo together. They are usually worth 2 or 3 points depending on if 2 or 3 people team up. The points go to everyone on the team. Competitive Bingos These bingos give a generalized set of conditions, and the person who has had the measurably best match (for example, highest or lowest gen) for the bingo at the end of its activity gets the points. If there is a tie, all tying winners get the points. Riddle Bingos In these bingos, a set of clues that hint at a particular dragon is posted together. Each person who posts the correct dragon gets a point. Ponderous Puzzle Bingos These are similar to riddle bingos, but the clues are posted one at a time rather than all at once. There will be at least 4 clues. If you get it from the first clue, it's worth 4 points, if you get it on the second clue, it's worth 3, if you get it on the 3rd clue it's worth 2 points, and on the last clue it's worth 1. You may guess once per clue but, to prevent copying, you won't find out if you've been right or wrong until the end. Your highest-scoring correct guess will earn you the points, so it behooves you to guess differently each round. Rules to Claiming a Bingo You must announce "Bingo" for each bingo you are claiming. If you do not say "Bingo" for a bingo, it will not count. If you forget to announce a bingo properly, I will remind you and you can fix it so it will count. You may use view, lineage or progeny links for adult dragons. However, if applicable, growing things must have lineage links. Dragons must come from your own scroll only. You can't use dragons from others' scrolls. Your scroll name must be displayed on your dragons' page for this game, so that I can verify you are using a dragon from your own scroll. It would also help to have your scroll link in your signature (especially if your scroll name and forum name are different). Your scroll does not have to be visible, just your scroll name. Dragons that were bred or grabbed the day the bingo was announced or later cannot be used for the bingo. This is to ensure you didn't just breed/grab a dragon to fulfill the bingo. Winning the Game Congrats! If you win, you will receive a PM from the OP of the thread. The prize for winning is that great feeling of winning, the opportunity to host the next game, and a bred egg from two of the host's dragons (and you have to take whatever is bred). If they refuse, you can choose a different pair. Note, however, that some dragons may be bonded to specific mates and others may have waiting lists. Some hosts may allow you to choose from rares, some may not. You may decline the breeding offer and/or hosting the next game. If you don't want to host the next game, you can post in the thread letting people know it's up for grabs. Some Terminology CB: Short for caveborn. A dragon with no parents. Example: https://dragcave.net/lineage/1pc1j PB: Short for purebred. A dragon with only dragons of the same breed in its lineage. Example: https://dragcave.net/lineage/ehKyI EG: Short for even gen[erations]. A lineage where all the dragons have two parents of the same generation so it makes a nice triangle shape. Example: https://dragcave.net/lineage/ay01S Checker: A type of even-gen where all the females are one breed and all the males are a different breed. Example: https://dragcave.net/lineage/PEdUS Stair/stairstep: A continuing lineage where one gender is always CB, creating a stairstep shape. Example: https://dragcave.net/lineage/RFR7D Spiral: A continuing lineage where one parent is always CB, but for every other generation that CB is a male and for every other it is a female. Example: https://dragcave.net/lineage/7lH1X Inbred = A lineage where a dragon appears more than once. Example: https://dragcave.net/lineage/l2NRC (here, the child's father is also its maternal grandfather) Messy = A lineage shape with no discernible pattern. Example: https://dragcave.net/lineage/ApljF (If you have more questions, see the Lineage Terminology thread.) And that's it! If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post here or PM the host. Ping list of recent players who might want to be notified whenever there is a new game. Please let me know if you would like to be removed from this list! @Aqub @Fuzzbucket @GhostMouse @IzzyCat91 @Lagie @Little-Star @mishhelle @Mnkn10 @purplehaze @trystan @water_angel @yanderella Former Bingo Hosts 1. Walker (Yay, creator of the game!) / 2. Evilbunny405 / 3. Parakeet13 / 4. Angelstarstar / 5. Lilyice / 6. Khallayne / 7. Volcove / 8. DarkLorienne / 9. Scratcher_cat / 10. ScnBrain_2008 / 11. Lagie / 12. Parakeet13 / 13. Walker / 14. Lilyice / 15. XDLugia / 16. Tatrina / 17. Volcove / 18. Lagie / 19. Kanaye / 20. Tatrina / 21. Kanaye / 22. Sarahfish89 / 23. NixAyum / 24. Kanaye / 25. Black_Phantom / 26. RMMC / 27. Volcove / 28. XDLugia / 29. RMMC / 30. Volcove / 31. Lagie / 32. Satyr76 / 33. Sophiera / 34. VampircOmen / 35. Timpieh / 36. Trinity. / 37. Palior / 38. XDLugia / 39. Casprrr / 40. Volcove / 41. XDLugia / 42. Saikachan / 43. Casprrr / 44. Blackdragon71 / 45. Evangeline5432 / 46. Devious_Bookworm / 47. Pteprocks / 48. Raistlin24 / 49. Arula / 50. Jerusha / 51. SockPuppet Strangler / 52. HappyMom / 53. Ice_SW / 54. Rascal1414 / 55. Rainbowsmile / 56. Water_angel / 57. Alabamasax / 58. Water_angel / 59. XDLugia / 60. happyseagull / 61. Thegreenrobby / 62. TLOSpyrogirl / 63. Pteprocks / 64. HappyMom / 65. Michellechan2211 / 66. simkim / 67. Mysfytt / 68. Casprrr / 69. Evangeline5432 / 70. HappyMom / 71. Walker / 72. Classycal / 73. purplehaze / 74. Classycal / 75. HappyMom / 76. Raistlin24 / 77. Angelicdragonpuppy / 78. HeroLink42 / 79. Angelicdragonpuppy / 80. Raistlin24 / 81. Pteprocks / 82. Casprrr / 83. Mysfytt / 84. yuumei / 85. Pteprocks / 86. purplehaze / 87. Pteprocks / 88. Angelicdragonpuppy / 89. Raistlin24 / 90. Isuzu / 91. purplehaze / 92. Lolchen / 93. simkim / 94. purplehaze / 95. XDLugia / 96. ldwoodcock / 97. Pteprocks / 98. simkim / 99. purplehaze / 100. simkim / 101. Pteprocks / 102. Aquenee / 103. purplehaze / 104. Dragongirl02 / 105. SockPuppet Strangler / 106. Aquenee / 107. Lantean_Pegasus / 108. purplehaze / 109. Dimar / 110. Angelicdragonpuppy / 111. Classycal / 112. Dragongirl02 / 113. HawktalonOfRiverClan / 114. GhostMouse / 115. Rarek / 116. purplehaze / 117. HawktalonOfRiverClan / 118. dragongrrrl / 119. Cuteseal2 / 120. MessengerDragon / 121. Tiga / 122. Alectrona / 123. Pteprocks / 124. purplehaze / 125. ForNarniaMC / 126. JolteonTails / 127. AppleMango / 128. IchibiGaara / 129. Dragongirl02 / 130. Poohbear03 / 131. JolteonTails / 132. purplehaze / 133. Alectrona / 134. Ylla / 135. Vrack / 136. JolteonTails / 137. Saikachan / 138. Dusky_Flareon / 139. purplehaze / 140. SockPuppet Strangler / 141. JolteonTails. / 142. Fuzzbucket / 143. Ruby Eyes / 144. irrelevantindigo/ 145. Ruby Eyes/ 146. purplehaze/ 147. Dirtytabs/ 148. sh20000sh / 149. Ruby Eyes / 150. Dirtytabs / 151. Tinibree / 152. sh20000sh / 153. Ruby Eyes / 154. Aie / 155. Dirtytabs / 156. Fuzzbucket / 157. Naraku / 158. sh20000sh / 159. Ruby Eyes / 160. Fuzzbucket / 161. Meadbhb / 162. Dirtytabs / 163. Ruby Eyes / 164. Rememberdrgns / 165. Draconiusultamius / 166. Dirtytabs / 167. Fuzzbucket / 168. Ruby Eyes / 169. Dirtytabs / 170. BlueLatios / 171. Ruby Eyes / 172. sh20000sh / 173. Aqub / 174. kanya146715 / 175. Little-Star / 176. purplehaze / 177. Dirtytabs / 178. sh20000sh / 179. Fuzzbucket / 180. Paintra / 181. Ruby Eyes / 182. Aqub / 183. Ruby Eyes / 184. Dragongirl02(unfinished) / 185. Aqub (unfinished) / 186 Water_angel / 187. purplehaze / 188. Little-Star / 189. Fuzzbucket / 190. purplehaze/ 191. Mnkn10 Edited August 20, 2022 by Mnkn10 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) The Players Note: Some numbers are repeated because I messed up the numbering No Trophy -- 15 points needed to win Bronze Trophy -- 25 points needed to win Silver Trophy -- 35 points needed to win Gold Trophy -- 40 points needed to win IzzyCat91 - R1, R3, R4, R5, R8, R10, R12, R13, Ca1d, F2, R18, R21, Ca2b, F3, R25, R28, F5, R26, R27, R28, PP1d (24) Platinum Trophy -- 42 points needed to win trystan - R1, R3, R4, R5, R7, F1, R8, R9, R11, R12, R13, R14, Ca1c, F2, R15, R17, R18, R20, R21, Ca2c, F3, R22, R25, R26, F4, F5, R23, R25, R27, R28 (34) TheLlama - S1, R1, R3, R4, R5, F1, S2, S3, S4, R8, R10, R12, R13, Ca1a, R15, R18, R19, R20, Ca2b, F3, R25, R26, R27, R28, F4, F5, R23, R26, R27, PP1b (33) Diamond 'Trophy' (4000+) -- 50 points needed to win purplehaze - R1, R3, R4, R5, R7, F1, Cp1, R8, R9, R10, R11, R12, R13, R14 Ca1d, F2, R15, R17, R19, R20, R21, Ca2b, F3, R22, R25, R26, R27, R28, F4, F5, R23, R24, R25, R26, R28, PP1c, Cp2 (42) water_angel - F1, R1, R3, R4, R5, R7, R8, R9, R11, R12, Ca1b, F2, R15, R16, R18, R20, Ca2a, F3, F4, PP1c (22) Little-Star - F1, R1, R4, R5, R7, R8, R12, R13, Ca1a, F2, R15, R18, R19, R20, Ca2a, F3, R25, R27, F5, R23, R26, R28, PP1d (23) Whatever 'Trophy' (any) -- 51 points needed to win Fuzzbucket - R1, R2, R3, R4, R5, R6, R7, F1, R8, R9, R10, R11, R12, R13, R14 Ca1d, F2, R15, R17, R18, R19, R20, R21, Ca2b, F3, F4, R22, R23, R24, R25, R26, R27, R28, F5, R23, R24, R25, R26, R27, R28, R29, PP1c (47) Lagie - R1, R4, R5, R8, R9, R11, R12, R14, Ca1d, R15, R17, R18, R20, R21, Ca2b, F3, S5, R22, R25, R26, F5, R23, R25, R26, R28, PP1c (32) Ghostmouse - R1, R3, R4, R5, R6, F1, R8, R12, R13, Ca1d, F2, R22, R25, R26, R27, R28, F5, R23, R24, R25, R26, R28, R29, PP1c (28) Edited September 23, 2022 by Mnkn10 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) The Bingos Active Round 6 R30. A lineage with 3 or more types of false-headed hydra R31. A 4th gen or higher prize. R32. A CB copper R33. A sandwaste dragon that hatched February of any year R34. A cheese dragon R35. A serrati wyvern with 3 or more offspring. R37. Your favourite lineage/dragon. Why is it your favourite? Competitive bingo Cp3. The player with the most dragons from the Volcano. Please post a group link. Expired Round 1 Regular Bingos R1. All three colours of Fire Gem Dragon R2. A checker, 4th gen or higher, containing Turpentine Dragons R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year R4. A CB Xenowyrm R5. An Omen Wyrm R6. A 2nd gen exalted Pitfire Dragon R7. A Dark Lumina with normal Lumina parents OR a normal Lumina with Dark Lumina parents Competitive bingo Cp1. The player with the most Bleeding Moon Dragons - please post a group link Round 2 Bingos Regular Bingos R8. A CB Red dragon R9. A White Dragon caught/bred in 2020 R10. A PB Aeon Wyvern, 3rd gen or higher R11. A Celestial Dragon that was caught on April 1st of any year R12. A Pink dragon with at least 1 Aria parent and no Pink parent R13. A Green dragon with at least one adult Geode offspring R14. A Vampire with 3 or more adult offspring. Cascade Bingo Ca1a. 1 Cantormaris Dragon variant Ca1b. 3 Cantormaris Dragon variants Ca1c. 5 Cantormaris Dragon variants Ca1d. All 6 Cantormaris Dragon variants Round 3 bingos Regular bingos R15 A green spinel wyvern R16. A moonstone x sunstone checker R17. A lineage containing all three sapphire dragon variants R18. A CB labradorite dragon with no offspring R19. An almerald dragon born in May of any year R20. Two CB golden wyverns, male and female R21. A pennybright copper (the bred-only variant) Cascade Bingo Ca2a A gemshard dragon Ca2b A lineage with 2 varieties of gemshard dragon Ca2c A lineage with 4 varieties of gemshard dragon Ca2d A lineage with all 6 varieties of gemshard dragon Round 4 R22. A green Nilia pygmy R23. A non-CB dark Shumoga dragon R24. A Copper x Electric checker R25. A yellow Undine dragon R26. A CB Rift wyrm from a non-coast biome R27. A lineage containing two or more hybrid breeds R28. A pair that has at least three different breeds as offspring Challenge Bingo Ch1. A checker with undead dragons. Example Round 5 Bingos R23. A dusk pygmy R24. A 3rd gen+ mimic pygmy x pumpkin lineage R25. All 3 paragulus pygmy colours R26. A CB blue baikala R27. A non-CB scourgekeeper R28. A spotted teal drake R29. A 4th gen+ drake checker. Competitive bingo The dragon with the most offspring. Ponderous Puzzle Bingo PP1a. I am green PP1b. Both adults and hatchlings are dimorphic PP1c. I was released in 2010 PP1d. I am a wyvern Secret Bingos S1. Siyat - Hidden in the second post - claimed by TheLlama S2. Almerald - At the top of my completed projects group, highlighted on my scroll - claimed by TheLlama S3. Turpentine - At the top of my turpentine group, linked in my signature - claimed by TheLlama S4. Pillow - claimed by TheLlama S5. Purple - Claimed by Lagie Flash Bingos F1. A CB Thunder Dragon F2. A pseudo-wyvern drake. F3. A sapo dragon F4. A Ceriuth dragon (the new hybrid). Unfrozen hatchlings (not eggs) accepted. F5. A fever wyvern. Edited September 22, 2022 by Mnkn10 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) Extra post, just in case. Edited August 16, 2022 by Mnkn10 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 i'll give it a start, see how it goes. in with platinum. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 Whatever, please. I do like the ping feature. *leaves brownies for everyone* Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 Since this is my first time hosting let's begin with a few of my favourite things. Round 1 Regular Bingos R1. All three colours of Fire Gem Dragon R2. A checker, 4th gen or higher, containing Turpentine Dragons R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year R4. A CB Xenowyrm R5. An Omen Wyrm R6. A 2nd gen exalted Pitfire Dragon R7. A Dark Lumina with normal Lumina parents OR a normal Lumina with Dark Lumina parents Competitive bingo Cp1. The player with the most Bleeding Moon Dragons - please post a group link Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 R1. All three colours of Fire Gem Dragon Bingo! - red - https://dragcave.net/view/5reIP green - https://dragcave.net/view/CIe6G blue - https://dragcave.net/view/ajNOk R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year - Mebbe. Will need to check tomorrow. (Is April 14th your birthday? ) R4. A CB Xenowyrm Bingo! - https://dragcave.net/view/rHaCb (one of my first - described) R5. An Omen Wyrm Bingo! - https://dragcave.net/view/TFlzg Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 Round 1 Regular Bingos R1. All three colours of Fire Gem Dragon - BINGO! Blue | Red | Green R2. A checker, 4th gen or higher, containing Turpentine Dragons R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year - BINGO! https://dragcave.net/view/e0p3E R4. A CB Xenowyrm - BINGO! https://dragcave.net/view/m9HO6 R5. An Omen Wyrm - BINGO! https://dragcave.net/view/7BFkP R6. A 2nd gen exalted Pitfire Dragon R7. A Dark Lumina with normal Lumina parents OR a normal Lumina with Dark Lumina parents - BINGO! https://dragcave.net/lineage/0hHmv Competitive bingo Cp1. The player with the most Bleeding Moon Dragons - please post a group link - i only have 3 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, trystan said: i only have 3 5 for me. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 Whatever, please! Thanks for hosting! I'll get to round one tomorrow. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 Round 1 Regular Bingos R1. All three colours of Fire Gem Dragon Bingo ! Blue Green Red R2. A checker, 4th gen or higher, containing Turpentine Dragons Bingo ! https://dragcave.net/lineage/2QCMa R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year BINGO ! https://dragcave.net/view/ccVk8 (WHEW !!!!) R4. A CB Xenowyrm Bingo ! https://dragcave.net/view/u9yUP R5. An Omen Wyrm Bingo ! https://dragcave.net/view/c5XQf R6. A 2nd gen exalted Pitfire Dragon Bingo !~ https://dragcave.net/lineage/89h5T R7. A Dark Lumina with normal Lumina parents OR a normal Lumina with Dark Lumina parents Z’Bingo ! https://dragcave.net/lineage/zrTG1 Competitive bingo Cp1. The player with the most Bleeding Moon Dragons - please post a group link Bingo ! https://dragcave.net/group/207722 (23) Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lagie said: R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year - Mebbe. Will need to check tomorrow. (Is April 14th your birthday? ) Yep, you got me. Edited August 17, 2022 by Mnkn10 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 Round 1 Regular Bingos R1. All three colours of Fire Gem Dragon BI NG O! R2. A checker, 4th gen or higher, containing Turpentine Dragons R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year BINGO! R4. A CB Xenowyrm BINGO! R5. An Omen Wyrm BINGO! R6. A 2nd gen exalted Pitfire Dragon R7. A Dark Lumina with normal Lumina parents OR a normal Lumina with Dark Lumina parents BINGO! Competitive bingo Cp1. The player with the most Bleeding Moon Dragons - please post a group link BINGO? 41 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 In with Gold please (will post my bingos in a few, i just got in from work) Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 7 hours ago, purplehaze said: Round 1 Regular Bingos R1. All three colours of Fire Gem Dragon BI NG O! R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year BINGO! For R1 I think you forgot to link the green (I do like the colourful bingo though!). For R3, that dragon's laid on date is April 15th. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 Oopsie! Fixed. R1. All three colours of Fire Gem Dragon BI NG O! R3. A dragon whose egg was laid/stolen on April 14 of any year BINGO! Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 In honour of the thunderstorm in my area, here's the first flash bingo. Flash bingo F1. A CB Thunder Dragon Expires tomorrow at 2pm Cave time Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 Flash bingo F1. A CB Thunder Dragon - BINGO! https://dragcave.net/view/vf1J Share this post Link to post
Posted August 17, 2022 F1 BINGO https://dragcave.net/view/Xltf Not ENOUGH thunder here And especially not enough lightning. Share this post Link to post
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