Open view/lineage page when you get egg

[camelia2]

As it is now, when you pick up an egg from either cave or AP you are redirected to the links page that offers 0 relevant information (CB or not, lineage, parent names, stats) and means 1 extra step in getting to what you actually want to know or to the action page.

If you think it offers the code, code hunters allready know it before even clicking an egg and is anyway displayed on the view page

 

Removing this extra step, by directly opening the view page, would save time while hunting in AP and especially during holidays.

And to be frank, I never use the link page (just coppy from url bar?) and I don't think the first thing you want from a fresh caught egg is the link.... and there is allready acces to link page from the vie-page menu.

 

Edit: I was made aware of the 0-clicks dragons and while I don't care for them, seems others do and this change would impact them negatively.

Therefore I propose a popular alternative: open lineage page when you get egg.

Even though that won't really do much for CB eggs, you are anyway stuck with a max of 8 for 5h, while it would save time for the AP eggs that are really the ones we grab by tens or hundreds on holidays.

Edited February 22, 2022 by camelia2
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[LevelsOfViolence]

No support from me because it would make raising 0 click dragons absolutely impossible, since opening a /view page [regardless if you type it in or not] raises the counter to 1. If you don't believe me, just find a random egg in the AP with 0 views and do it yourself.

 

I don't think that having to click one more time is a huge enough issue that warrants removing a somewhat weird but still present aspect of the game.

Edited February 21, 2022 by LevelsOfViolence

[camelia2]

2 minutes ago, LevelsOfViolence said:

No support from me because it would make raising 0 click dragons absolutely impossible, since opening a /view page [regardless if you type it in or not] raises the counter to 1. If you don't believe me, just find a random egg in the AP with 0 views and do it yourself.

 

I don't think that having to click one more time is a huge enough issue that warrants removing a somewhat weird but still present aspect of the game.

I never thought of this, or that someone is raising dragons this way (how exactly you prevent them from getting clicks in hatcheries, or how you hatch without hatcheries?)

Actually, my browser is not registering my 1st click so is not the perfect example (but I understand what you say)

Though, as someone who just checked-viewed-tossed hundred of eggs last night to help bring down the val wall I tell you is more time consuming than you'd think and is definetly more benefical to the majority than a 0 click...

[LevelsOfViolence]

1 minute ago, camelia2 said:

how exactly you prevent them from getting clicks in hatcheries, or how you hatch without hatcheries?

The trick is to use auto-refresher when they become ER + only dump them into hatcheries when they are at a relatively high time, so that they can gain passive views without being at a high risk of getting clicked. If you need to fog or name them, you just use the Action page from your scroll.

I mostly do this with CB holidays and BSAs, but I know I'm not the only person who raises dragons in this manner - I'm pretty sure there's a user on forums whose whole scroll is dedicated to raising as many 0-click dragons as possible, though I forget their name.

 

5 minutes ago, camelia2 said:

my browser is not registering my 1st click

Has to be exactly a 0 click egg to count, I've observed that sometimes eggs with 1/1/1 that you pick up from the AP don't count at all. But if you immediately refresh the page of a 0/0/0 egg or check your scroll page after being on its /view page, you should see that egg's stats go up.

 

Regardless, the main point is that currently the code page acts as a 'buffer' that prevents the first click. And I do get the convenience aspect of it, but unless there's an alternative method to prevent that first view I'd rather not change the current system.

[camelia2]

22 minutes ago, LevelsOfViolence said:

Has to be exactly a 0 click egg to count, I've observed that sometimes eggs with 1/1/1 that you pick up from the AP don't count at all. But if you immediately refresh the page of a 0/0/0 egg or check your scroll page after being on its /view page, you should see that egg's stats go up.

Yep, exactly 0. Grabbed from cave this morning. My browser is weird like that, sometimes won't register mine at all (this just for the show, I understand the point)

 

And oh, I do know a way around it! A proxy. I was playing from my university's wifi and I allways got a warning that being on such conection means you can play but won't be able to give clicks or views. (Granted is complicated but I just say a way exists, not to take into account for the change necesarlly)

 

[Fuzzbucket]

It's easy to get no clicks, and as a lot of people here choose to do this, and this suggestion would make that harder, I can't support it.

[D-wing]

I don't think it's necessary to change, but not sure if link to its lineage page is better then the view page?

For my personal feeling, the clicks lets my egg need more views to hatch...Although the reality should be opposite : |

 

 

Edit: wow the truncated lineages is interesting. Although I don't think it's the most important thing to change, I'll support that link to the truncated lineage. Seem that it's the best solution for everyone.

Edited February 27, 2022 by D-wing

[reddof-f6]

not necessary. for AP i would care about the lineage, but for CB i honestly just wanna see that simple page and get the relief i snagged the egg.

[HeatherMarie]

I wouldn't have considered what this suggestion would mean for users who like to have 0-click dragons, but yeah I guess I can see the concern. Personally I feel the page we get now is kind of outdated, we *used* to use that links-page a ton way back when most users put their growing things in (other) forum sigs and livejournal and such to grow, but now... How often does someone actively click that 'show links' link on the view-page, or actively use the link-page for anything? It just seems rather useless the majority of the time, to me, and yeah it's just one extra click to get to the view page but that's a lot of extra clicking when you pick up eggs a lot... 

 

But the 0-click issue remains. It would be nice if instead of opening the links-page it instead opened the lineage page, or I don't know *some* other page, but I don't know anything about deliberately raising 0-click dragons so I don't know what would be most helpful there. 

[purplehaze]

This would save a lot of clicks when hunting the holiday walls, that's for sure. It would save even more for me by going directly to the lineage page, as that is what I want to see for those eggs. I picked up hundreds/probably thousands of the eggs from that wall and the extra clicks add up.

I would hate to see changes made that would spoil the chance of geting 0-click dragons. I personally don't care about that, but there are some users who do and it would be sad to have them lose the chance to raise their dragons the way they are accustomed to.

[UnicornMaiden]

I don't care about how many clicks the dragon gets, but what I do care about when I'm AP hunting is the lineage. If catching an AP egg went straight to the lineage page it would make things easier for lineage hunters and still avoid the click for the 0-click people.

[LevelsOfViolence]

35 minutes ago, HeatherMarie said:

It would be nice if instead of opening the links-page it instead opened the lineage page

That would actually solve the problem entirely, both reducing the amount of navigation you have to do when catching the egg, being far more relevant than the code page, and not impacting the view counter at the same time. If this was the alternative, I'd 100% support it.

[Bison]

Eggs opening on the lineage page would be so useful.

[Fuzzbucket]

2 hours ago, purplehaze said:

This would save a lot of clicks when hunting the holiday walls, that's for sure. It would save even more for me by going directly to the lineage page, as that is what I want to see for those eggs. I picked up hundreds/probably thousands of the eggs from that wall and the extra clicks add up.

I would hate to see changes made that would spoil the chance of geting 0-click dragons. I personally don't care about that, but there are some users who do and it would be sad to have them lose the chance to raise their dragons the way they are accustomed to.

 

THAT I would get behind.

[camelia2]

I would love the lineage page as well! It was not my initial sugestion because it seamed it is niche as you wouldn't care for that on a CB egg and for that it feels like no use. (I was also not aware of 0 clicks dragons) But I'd definetly like it much better than the outdated, as Marie perfectly named it, links page.

 

I think I'll make a change to the post

[AngelicGracelyn]

I support this suggestion for it automatically opening up the lineage page. You could tell at a glance without another click that it's CB too. It's always a fun surprise to find some CBs in the AP.

[Guillotine]

I fully support it opening the lineage page, as well.

[Shadowdrake]

I support this in theory but I think it should probably display the truncated version like this because some of these lineages are so big finding the egg tile would be a pain, plus potential accidentally freezing old browsers.

[HeatherMarie]

4 hours ago, Shadowdrake said:

I support this in theory but I think it should probably display the truncated version like this because some of these lineages are so big finding the egg tile would be a pain, plus potential accidentally freezing old browsers.

 

..... And we find another hidden feature I had no idea existed! I've never seen that 'truncate' url before, that's very interesting. It's also a good point, I have a ton of really long lineages and it can definitely be a pain loading the whole thing, and we'd want to have simple access to the egg tile.

[UnicornMaiden]

I didn't know about truncated lineages either! That's a good idea since there are a lot of long, messy lineages in the AP.

[camelia2]

Wow. That is news to me too! How many more secrets is this site keeping?!

Yes, great ideia

[Moriaty]

I really hope someone someday is able to get a full list of all of those random little helper functions/features. I never knew about the truncated tag

[Shadowdrake]

Oh, it's not really a tag. The site automatically truncates lineages if you add anything to the end of the lineage link like so https://dragcave.net/lineage/6aw2o/x. Discovered it while checking out lineages in the AP by swapping "get" out.

Edited February 24, 2022 by Shadowdrake
edited wrong link