Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, gotw3 said: Hi there! I'm a little late to the party... does anyone know how to hatch a Black Shumoga? Earthquake or kill. Edited August 26, 2021 by Fuzzbucket Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, Fuzzbucket said: Earthquake or kill. Gotcha, thanks! And whoah, kill... just tried it for the first time because I ran out of EQs. Disturbing text. No successes, unfortunately. :'D Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 After working myself up to EQ so I could get a skittish set of Shumoga (sp?) dragon, I wound up killing one, but the rest survived & all turned skittish (I had to EQ twice as some eggs were unaffected). I really don't like this method of hatching. Interestingly, my NR Pyro eggs all hatched with no issues. I'll grab some more & try again & see if if I can make myself at least 3 pairs just for scroll completion. I really hope we don't get too many other dragons like this as it's too nerve-wracking to make them & I don't have the right "currency" to trade for them. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Spiteful_Crow said: And all of those pretty much make sense to me except the Amaringis. Orange? Boo. Why not purple? Okay, if y'all jump on me or the artist for sharing this, I'm done helping. Just a heads-up. From the artist: "do keep in mind the amarignis flames arent regular flames; they are more magic that manifests itself as flames" 1 hour ago, Spiteful_Crow said: Hmm, another one that doesn't make sense. Maybe these are just some of the usual hiccups that come with the more complicated or color-changing breeds shortly after their debut. We had similar glitches with the new Florets, for example. Artist said they are working as designed. Edited August 26, 2021 by Fyrebird spacing Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) I have a feeling that Waterhorses might extinguish a Pyropellis. I'll see if I can test that and the Luminae when my dudes grow up Edited August 26, 2021 by 0x08 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, 0x08 said: I have a feeling that Waterhorses might extinguish a Pyropellis. I'll see if I can test that and the Luminae when my dudes grow up My oldest ones won't grow up until mid-morning tomorrow. *sigh* Also about to go offline because Thursday is my weekly ladies' night out. I'll catch up later tonight, so anybody who does have pyropellis adults grow up, please post any breeding experiment results and I'll update and repost my chart. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 So the fire backed dragons changing color depending on their mates is interesting. It would be really neat if they kept their color semi-permanently until they breed with something else. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 I hope the Pyropellis keep the color they gained from their first breeding. Maybe there'd be a "Extinguish" BSA for when you want to change its flame. Though then you'd end up with flameless alts instead of the default Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Whoop, Whoop! Just used EQ and both eggs did not die and the babies are mine...just hope it worked...I decided to try for a Skittish and a Green Cantor and success! Edited August 26, 2021 by Firebirdwyvern Share this post Link to post
Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) All the adults from both breeds are simply gorgeous! Wowwww! I love both the black and the white Shumoga dragons; they are so elegant and will look awesome in so many lineages! The Pyropellis are marvelous as well! ❤️ I do wish we had one with white flames 🔥 Love the “bald” one, too! I kinda hope the Pyro CB colors are permanent with some option to switch them to different colors if we choose, kinda like the Aegis. We’ll see! Congrats, @Infinis and @Dohaerys! On 8/26/2021 at 12:43 PM, Stromboli said: aw man, I've got three Shumogas that I wanna EQ, but I also have three Silvers that are sick and I can't take out of fog to have someone hold for me while I fire up the egg wiggler And the Shumogas are under 4 days so if I take THEM out of fog to kill action them they'll just hatch 😂😭 @Stromboli I can’t remember— if you Ward your Silver eggs and then teleport them for someone to hold while you EQ, will they keep their Ward after teleporting? (Hopefully you removed them from all hatcheries prior to fogging.) I wonder if Ward can help you out here. Edited August 28, 2021 by missy_ Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 So when is it best to try to EQ or Kill? Right away after they are caught feom the biome or when they have a stage 5 hole or what. So far I have had no success with either method and it killed or left them unaffected. 😕 Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, acm1923 said: So when is it best to try to EQ or Kill? Right away after they are caught feom the biome or when they have a stage 5 hole or what. So far I have had no success with either method and it killed or left them unaffected. 😕 It's almost never going to work with fresh eggs, since you are trying to force them to hatch they need to be at least a little bit ready to hatch, meaning lower time and at least cracking a bit. There is a lot of randomness and luck involved, but the biggest chances for success are with near-hatching-time with a large hole. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, acm1923 said: So when is it best to try to EQ or Kill? Right away after they are caught feom the biome or when they have a stage 5 hole or what. So far I have had no success with either method and it killed or left them unaffected. 😕 So far, the general consensus for best chances are waiting until at least 24 hours (most prefer ERable/almost ERable) and has at least a crack if not a large hole; anything less seems to have a higher kill chance. Even then, it's still based on luck and there are no guarantees. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 I'm a bit late but I has question. Do the new dragons with the different colored flames keep their flame color after being bred? Or will they revert to a base sprite like the Lumina's do? Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, UltimateTH said: I'm a bit late but I has question. Do the new dragons with the different colored flames keep their flame color after being bred? Or will they revert to a base sprite like the Lumina's do? We don't know yet, users just started getting adults yesterday so it remains to be seen if the color is temporary or not, or if it changes with each breeding, or what. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) People have adult Pyros already? On 8/26/2021 at 2:49 AM, Shadowdrake said: our current data points https://dragcave.net/lineage/57WTk https://dragcave.net/lineage/Lbt8n https://dragcave.net/lineage/jwSCN https://dragcave.net/lineage/KWbTR Aw. You'd think the Amarignis would give purple flames.. I'm sad now. Anyone try the Cantomaris? Do we have a list of flame-y dragons? (Will verify and update) From the top of my head...Updated List! Flame-Associated Dragons: Spoiler Probably All Fire Mana-Aligned Dragons Red Dragons (They breathe fire.) [Confirmed orange variant] Falconiform Wyverns (Cyan fire) [Confirmed blue variant] Amarignis Dragons (Purple-pink-white fire; got the name) [Confirmed orange variant] Cantomaris Wyverns? (It looks like they have flames. Colors - Blue, Red, Cyan, White, Rainbow, Brown) [Confirmed orange variant for Mundus, Motus, Iratus, Sophos, and Itus Cantos] Spitfire Dragons (They use turquoise flames to make glass caves.) [Confirmed orange variant] Ultraviolet Dragons (Hybrids with Spitfires and Purple) [Confirmed orange variant] Grave Dragons (Got the name. Probably breath orange fire based on their coloration.) [Confirmed orange variant] Fire Gems (Orange for Blue Fire Gems; Purple for Green Fire Gems; Cyan for Red Fire Gems) [Confirmed purple variant from Green Fire Gem] [Confirmed cyan variant from Red Fire Gem] [Confirmed orange variant from Blue Fire Gem] Hellfire Wyverns (Turquoise fire for female Hellfires; orange for male Hellfires) [Confirmed orange and cyan variants for females] [Confirmed orange variant for males] Hellhorse Dragons (Same as above) [possible cyan variant for females] [possible orange variant from males] Pitfire Dragons (Green fire for exalted forms; unknown if this applies to normal forms.) [Confirmed green variant from Exalted forms] [Confirmed orange variant from Normal forms.] Arcana Dragons (Green fire) [Confirmed green variant from females] [Confirmed orange and green variants from males] Astaarus Dragons (Pale blue fire for females; yellow fire for males) [Confirmed orange variant - at least from females so probably both] Blazeback Dragons (Orange fire) [Confirmed orange variant] Carina Dragons (Blue fire) [Confirmed blue variant] Desipis Dragons (Orange fire) [Confirmed orange variant] Ember Dragons (Orange Fire...technically embers.) [Confirmed orange variant] Guardian Avatars of Destruction (They look fiery. They are shedding orange embers.) [Confirmed orange variant] Leodon Dragons (Orange fire) [Confirmed orange variant] Magelight Pygmies (Purple fire, but don't qualify in this case, because they are pygmies.) Magma Dragons (They don't actually have fire on them, but they are covered in magma. That counts, right?) [Confirmed orange variant] Magnesium Amphitheres (They have white fire, but don't qualify in this case, because they are two-headed dragons.) Nexus Dragons (Orange fire, but don't qualify in this case, because they are two-headed dragons.) Omen Dragons (Purple-blue & white flames) [Confirmed purple variant] Pyralspite Dragons (They breath fire, likely orange.) [Confirmed orange variant from Almandine Pyralspite] Royal Crimson Dragons (They breath fire, likely orange.) Pyro Xenowyrms (Orange Fire) [Confirmed orange variant] Pyrovar Dragons (They breath fire, likely orange.) [Confirmed orange variant] Ash Dragons (I mean ash is the remains of burnt things so...) [Confirmed orange variant] Shumoga Dragons (They breath orange fire.) [Confirmed orange variant from Pale Shumoga] Antarean Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Brimstone Dragons (Fire-aligned; note: Sulfur turns flames blue, and these guys eat and breathe sulfur.) [Confirmed blue variant] Garland Dragons (Fire aligned) [Confirmed orange variant] Nobleshield Dragons (Fire aligned) Wintertide Dragons (Fire aligned) [Confirmed orange variant] Sunstone Dragons (Fire aligned) [Confirmed orange variant] Yellow-Crowned Dragons (They like extreme heat, and as hatchlings, like to explore new things by lighting them on fire.) {spoilered because long} Edit: Updated list and a side list, because I'm curious; Dragons Not Associated with Fire, But Emit Energy: Spoiler Aeon Wyverns (Blue Glow) [Confirmed orange variant] Candelabra Dragons (Yellow Glow) [Confirmed orange variant] Bolt Dragons (Yellow Lighting) [Confirmed orange variant] Electric Dragons (Yellow and Blue lightning) [Confirmed orange variant] Galvanic Wyverns (Purple lightning) [Confirmed orange variant] Glowback Pygmys (Bioluminescence, but doesn't matter as they are pygmies.) Solstice Dragons (Pale blue Glow) [Confirmed orange variant] Luminox Wyverns (They glow orange and emit warmth, but the don't actually have fire?) [Confirmed orange variant] Nebula Wyverns (They glow with the colors of stars, galaxies and nebulas.) [Confirmed orange variant] Rift Dragons (They rip open holes in space. That has to emit energy.) [Confirmed orange variant] Spirit Ward Dragons (Orange to Gold Glow) [Confirmed orange variant] Storm-Rider Dragons (have an Lightning Alignment) Thunder Dragons (Yellow lightning) [Confirmed orange variant] Witchlight Dragons (Glowy green eyes) [Confirmed orange variant] Astrapi Xenowyrms (Yellow lightning) Magi Dragons (heavy magic users to the point they seem to glow) [Confirmed green variant - IT'S A HARRY POTTER REFERENCE! FLOO POWDER!] {spoilered because long} Then we need a list of Water-Associated Dragons... (Will come back and add more later.)Fixed it. Water/Ice Associated Dragons: Spoiler Probably All Water Mana-Aligned Dragons Water Dragons (obviously) [Confirmed Flameless Variant] Deep Sea Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Royal Blue Dragons (They actually breath steam!) [Confirmed orange variant] Sapo Dragons (Soap!) [Confirmed orange variant] Shallow Water Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Water Walker Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Waterhorse Dragons (obviously) [Confirmed orange variant] Aqualis Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Storm Dragons? (Because they can make storms?) [Confirmed orange variant] Storm Rider Dragons (Associated with Thunderstorms) Striped River Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Tercorn Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Tideweaver Lindwyrms [Confirmed orange variant] Tsunami Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Two-Finned Blunas [Confirmed orange variant] Undine Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Thalassa Xenowyrms [Confirmed orange variant] Hydrophidius Amphitheres [Confirmed orange variant] Aranoa Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Cantomaris Wyverns? (Listed twice as they are water affinity) [Confirmed orange variant for Mundus, Motus, Iratus, Sophos, and Itus Cantos] Black Capped Teimarr Dragons Blue-Banded Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Blusang Lindwyrms [Confirmed orange variant] Lacula Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Mutamore Dragons Sawtooth Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Rift Dragons (have water affinity) [Confirmed orange variant] Sinii Krai Dragons (are Semi-aquatic) Amalthean Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Probably All Ice Mana-Aligned Dragons Ice Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Frostbite Dragons [Possible orange variant] Crystalline Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Aso Xenowyrms [Confirmed orange variant] Coastal Waverunner Wyverns [Confirmed orange variant] Aegis Dragons Boreal Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Glystere Wyrms [Confirmed orange variant] Snow Angel Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Snow Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Tri-Horns Wyverns (Ice aligned) [Confirmed orange variant] {spoilered because long} And last note, Xols are Fire AND Water Aligned...so I have no idea which way they would go. Edit3: See results in spoilers Spoiler Confirmed orange variant for Purple and Red Xols There are probably more water dragons, but I'm lazy. Edit2: Confirmed Variants for Non-Fire, Water, or Ice Associated Dragons: Spoiler Silver Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Copper Dragons (Note: Copper when burned turns flames green.) [Confirmed green variant for all variants] Turpentine Dragons (Note: Turpentine is flammable, but it burns orange.] [Confirmed orange variant] Gold Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] Shimmerscale (Eastern Prize) Dragons [Confirmed orange variant for Silver Shimmers] Blacktip Dragons (Salt can smother flames?) [Confirmed orange variant] Lunar Herald Dragons [Confirmed orange variant from Indigo Lunars] Geode Dragons [Confirmed orange variant] {spoilered because spoilers} Edit4: Lastly a helpful spreadsheet produced by @Dinala1641882 - it has way more dragons on it. My lists are more specific to my own thoughts. - Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qg3Ef_XwycPQk_7bRbvzEQZgWX1Es1ZAe8NTC35fbFE/edit#gid=0 Edited August 28, 2021 by Shokomon Making/Updating list; Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 I'm thinking they can change every breeding simply because there are probably a lot of ineligible dragons, so it's probably neither a "first breeding only" nor "first change from orange" situation because both would skew the population, either towards orange or away from orange. But, we'll see in a week. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 The lore makes more sense if they change color every time they breed with a color-changing mate, but I would prefer that they don't for lineage reasons. Time will tell! Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Shadowdrake said: I'm thinking they can change every breeding simply because there are probably a lot of ineligible dragons, so it's probably neither a "first breeding only" nor "first change from orange" situation because both would skew the population, either towards orange or away from orange. But, we'll see in a week. I feel like population-skewing doesn't really matter in these situations, when users can deliberately make the specific flame-variants anytime they want just by breeding them. It's not like other breeds where ratios are involved. But I guess we'll see in a week... If they can change every breeding they will just be yet another breed I'll collect but never breed except the first breeding to get the color I want on each. Although I think 'temporary like shed Luminae' may still be a possibility? Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 58 minutes ago, Shokomon said: Valentine 2021 Dragons (Purple-white fire; don't remember the name at the top of my head) Amarignis Their flames are more magic that manifests as flames. 58 minutes ago, Shokomon said: That Halloween dragons what burns trees and eat the ash. (Can't think of name right now.) Grave Dragon Silver dragon gives orange. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dinala1641882 said: Amarignis Their flames are more magic that manifests as flames. Grave Dragon Silver dragon gives orange. Thank you! I now updated my list and added more lists and now that post is very long: How many of these are confirmed colorations? Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shokomon said: How many of these are confirmed colorations? So far this is what we've got. 9 hours ago, Fyrebird said: Results so far, in a handy table: Hide contents Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dinala1641882 said: So far this is what we've got. Thank you! Updated my list. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Fyrebird said: Results so far, in a handy table: Hide contents New updates. (1) added header line (2) astaarus added to the "no change" list. Last change for tonight because I have a headache so I'm going to bed. Lots of dragons will be growing up overnight so expect to see many updates tomorrow. Share this post Link to post
Posted August 27, 2021 I just wanna thank spriters for the lovely dragons and everyone who shared information in this thread. I successfully hatched a pair of skittish from EQ and KILL BSAs. ✌️ Thank you! Share this post Link to post
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