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Have Hatchlings Automatically Show Up In The AP At 4 Days 1 Hour

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So many hatchies are growing wild :(


Can we please just have them pop up in the AP just before they grow up, even if the AP time is low? No doubt theyd immediately be grabbed. 
 

Even if it was just 1 line where they could come up. 

 

In Holiday walls, holiday hatches at this time could default to the front.

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tbh i feel like eggs and hatchlings should just not hatch/mature unless they're on a scroll.

 

You always see people messing with Thuweds by putting them in hatcheries so they'll grow up wild before they ever reach the front of the AP, even without things like event walls forcing normal breeds to the back.

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3 hours ago, Stromboli said:

tbh i feel like eggs and hatchlings should just not hatch/mature unless they're on a scroll.

This. Eggs hatching is fine in my opinion, but I don't think hatchies should mature in the AP.

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+1 support for this. Even if it's just the hatchies not maturing. Because eggs would just turn into hatchies lol.

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I would 100% support hatchlings not growing up wild in the AP; I feel like it's way more likely for hatchlings to be grabbed no matter where they are on time. 

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6 hours ago, Stromboli said:

tbh i feel like eggs and hatchlings should just not hatch/mature unless they're on a scroll.

 

You always see people messing with Thuweds by putting them in hatcheries so they'll grow up wild before they ever reach the front of the AP, even without things like event walls forcing normal breeds to the back.

Someone also put alll of odeens kids in hatcheries, and she only bred a few. Only a few of them survived to the hatchie wall. 

 

And we just had like 50 NDs grow wild. 100% support no growing hatchies in the ap. Eggs hatching is fine and honestly preferred for some things. (I tried and failed to save some pb metals lost behind the holiday wall rip, also the previously mentioned NDs were done in the ap, I absolutely want that to happen again.)

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Full support. I don't mind eggs hatching in the AP, but hatchlings absolutely should not mature unless on a scroll.

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This would be great, especially since it could also prevent the sad "hatchie is taken from the AP and then still somehow grows up wild" thing that happened during the Halloween event.

 

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13 hours ago, Tinibree said:

And we just had like 50 NDs grow wild. 100% support no growing hatchies in the ap.


Thats exactly why I put this thread up; as well as the Halloweens. Whether they physically dont grow up in the wild, or pop up to the front, I am happy as they both stop the issue at hand. 

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Definitely. People throwing SAlts and Thuweds into hatcheries to make them grow wild is disappointing. There's also often no way to remove them from the sites if they're not on your scroll, so people can't even counter these efforts. And yeah, there were 76? NDs made as part of a mass-exp and even with a bunch of people shovelling eggs, only around 15 of them made it through. It was pretty disappointing. 

 

I'm also fine with both solutions proposed.

 

 

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I could be wrong, but I remember at some point we had hatchies appear in AP for people to grab, no matter the time left for them. I don't know what caused the change, since I left DC for years.

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@love_HP I feel like you are correct (though it has been so long since then that I'm not 100% sure, or if I'm just thinking of stray holiday hatchlings), and I have an idea of why they appeared at the top. If the AP were sorted by the "Laid on" or "Stolen on" date instead of time left to live, then hatchlings would almost always sort to the top because a 7d 0h hatchling is always*** going to be at least two days older than a 7d 0h egg. I wonder if it would be possible to sort AP things that way instead?

 

***(Unless the hatchling were hatched early with the Kill or Earthquake actions, in which case there could be less than a two day difference, but those would be rare exceptions.)

 

If it is possible, then even if the AP slipped down to 2d 1h, hatchlings would still appear before hitting 4d 0h. (Assuming that the hatchling were hatched with incubate. Without Incubate, the AP could safely drop to 1d 1h for hatchlings to show before growing. If the hatchling had 3d 0h or less before hatching, then it would always show before AP eggs.)

 

 

Edit: Oh, I did forget one important problem this would cause... If a hatchling hatched late, it would appear before 0d 1h after holiday walls end. :s

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On 11/11/2020 at 3:07 AM, aegagrusScholarship said:

People throwing SAlts and Thuweds into hatcheries to make them grow wild is disappointing.


I honestly dont know why people do that with such valuable dragons. They must be fun at parties. It would be very nice to take that malicious ability away from them. 

 

On 11/12/2020 at 6:24 PM, 11th said:

I feel like you are correct (though it has been so long since then that I'm not 100% sure, or if I'm just thinking of stray holiday hatchlings), and I have an idea of why they appeared at the top. If the AP were sorted by the "Laid on" or "Stolen on" date instead of time left to live, then hatchlings would almost always sort to the top because a 7d 0h hatchling is always*** going to be at least two days older than a 7d 0h egg. I wonder if it would be possible to sort AP things that way instead?


It is a good idea. I wonder if it would work if you had it sort by both ‘Time Left’ and ‘Laid On Date’. 
 

Alternatively; have a slight differentiation between hatchlings and eggs in that eggs are sorted by Laid On date, and hatchlings are sorted by Hatched date. Idk how capable coding is to do this, though. 
 

For this to work well, as many of you have suggested, hatchlings should be incapable of growing wild/can only grow up seconds before death.
 

But eggs may hatch; because having AP hatchlings is incredibly helpful in clearing Holiday walls and saving walled eggs. As agreed here.

 

I dont think low time hatchlings will easily clog the cave, but I would be wary of having all hatchies at 7 days automatically pop up encase they threaten to wall, creating a new problem i.e. eggs dying. I could be wrong, though, but some people can be pretty…determined.

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