New Biomes

[Floralpikmin99]

The existing biomes were introduced, according to the wiki, five years ago. In the last five years the number of breeds increased significantly and we can reasonably expect that will continue. It is becoming progressively harder and harder to find a specific egg in the biomes, even if it is not a rare.

Conclusion: I would like to suggest at least two (maybe even 5) additional habitats.

 

I know we have a good amount of biomes as is, but I have another one that might fit in the bunch. There's a couple of dragons that could live in a field if you think about it. While I know fields don't typically have caves in them, maybe the dragon eggs could be found at the edge of a giant hole in the ground that dragons dug for a home.

 

Now, I don't know if I have a say in this, but maybe a few dragons that could already be found in this biome are:

-Horse Dragon

-Green Dragon

-Harvest Dragon

-Whiptail Dragons

-Stripes

-Seasonals

-Pillow Dragons

-Guardian Dragons

-Turpentines

 

I'm sure this is going to be shot down. But it's worth a shot I suppose... :roll eyes:

 

BIOME SUGGESTIONS ALREADY

 

From Cinnamin Draconna

Alpine > Mountains > includes high peaks or low hills, warm or cold based on elevation, high plateaus or deep valleys, can have trees on the slopes ranging up to a treeline with nothing but snow above it.

 

Coast > Aquaway > fresh water, salt water and everything in between, regardless of actual location.. if it needs water, it goes here

 

Desert > Grasslands > deserts get rolled into the Wastelands and we get a new region for dragons who like areas that can be arid or humid, hot or cold, with or without trees, but are mostly flatlands.

 

Forest > Forest (no change) > because a forest is a forest is a forest, this is for anyplace that is mostly trees, but isn't too hot or too cold.

 

Jungle > Tropics > adds a little wider choice of what types of dragons are found here. But is basically for any dragon that prefers hot and humid conditions, with or without trees. From lazy dragons who like to lie on the beach, to small, agile nighthunting dragons who stalk the rainforest.

 

Volcano > Wastelands > includes volcanic regions, hot deserts, glacial deserts, magic dead areas, radioactive wastes, regions of pure chaos, and/or any weird environment that might be needed.

 

From Rally Vincent

Wastelands: Includes barren regions like tundra, deserts of all types, basically any region that has extreme climatic conditions (temperature, wind etc)

 

Wetlands: rivers, lakes and swamps, including mangroves

 

Woodlands: Forests and jungles

 

Grasslands: ranging from rocky regions like northen Scotland to plains, prairie and african savanna

 

Mountains: includes all types of mountains, snowy as well as volcanic

 

Oceanic: includes oceans as well as as any type of coast (beaches, rocky etc)

 

From angelicdragonpuppy

Taiga (Mountains + Tundra)

- Shore (Ocean + Freshwater)

- Wasteland (Desert + Volcano)

- Grassland

- Forest (Forest + Jungle)

- Cave*

 

From edwardelricfreak

So I had another idea: Why not combine similar biomes and also rename slightly?

 

That is to say, the names (they'd have to be listed vertically probably to save space) would be "____&____"

 

I was thinking the biomes could be like:

 

-Alpine & Tundra

-River & Shoreline

-Desert & Savanna/Grasslands/Field (personally I like savanna the most)

-Forest & Swamp

-Jungle & Tropics

-Volcano & Bad/Wastelands

 

From NotBambi

Following this:

We do have:

- Marine (= Coast)

- Desert

- Forest (Jungle is a subset)

We partially have Tundra (Alpine) but not Arctic Tundra.

We do not have:

- Freshwater  - Ponds and lakes, streams and rivers, wetlands.

- Grassland - Tropical (savannas) and Temperate - includes Prairies & Great Plains - ideal for Horses  , could become the ideal habitat for Big Cat inspired Dragons

 

Adding DC-specific habitats:

- Sky Islands

- Chaos Habitat to include:

----- Subterranean, Cave, place for dragons that lurk in the Deep Dark

----- Toxic (for the weirdest)

----- Time

Edited May 30, 2016 by SockPuppet Strangler

[Sirithiliel]

or maybe something like 'plains' or 'grassland' =) to make it even more general?

[Nectaris]

I have always wanted a grasslands biome, the turpentines would also go into a grasslands biome if it existed.

 

FYI, TJ has said before that jungle includes grasslands, but I would still like a grasslands biome as other than that, there is no indication of it existing(and I definitely don't want turps in the jungle biome).

[KrazyKarp]

I don't think we need new biomes right now due to the number of dragon species. But we'll need more later.

So good suggestion, not the right time.

Edited February 27, 2013 by Ultra

[Sirithiliel]

oh i didn't know grassland was included in jungle. one of my completed dragon designs was made with a grassland like habitat in mind, but i stuck them in forest and desert for lack of something like grassland or plains. I should've included jungle then lol!

[Obscure_Trash]

I agree that we don't need more biomes at the moment, but I think grasslands (if TJ decides to sort that out from jungle at some point) or plains would be a better name for field if we do need more biomes.

[Floralpikmin99]

I had no clue Grasslands was included with the Jungle. Either something need to make it more clear or I missed something obvious...

 

I guess I could also see how it's the wrong time for suggesting another biome, oh well. I'd forget if I didn't post it ASAP, cause my memory is TERRIBLE...

[TJ09]

I don't think that a seventh biome is necessarily a good idea.

 

That said, perhaps the biomes could be changed around instead.

 

Cinnamin Draconna sent me an interesting proposal for change via PM, I'm going to ask her to post it here so we can see what people think.

[MaggieXawesomeness]

I thought it was weird when I first noticed that there wasn't a grassland biome. It seems like a core habitat, IMO.

[Pokemonfan13]

I personally think forest and jungle are rather redundant. They're both wooded habitat, with the only real difference being temperature. So if we merge them into one "woodland" we've got an extra biome to play around with.

 

 

And if you think about it, mountains and volcano are also a bit redundant, since volcanoes are usually mountains.

 

And there is another biome that is currently neglected as much as grassland: tundra. Right now any cold weather dragon is stuck in the mountains, even if they live on flat ground.

Edited February 27, 2013 by Pokemonfan13

[MaggieXawesomeness]

I personally think forest and jungle are rather redundant. They're both wooded habitat, with the only real difference being temperature. So if we merge them into one "woodland" we've got an extra biome to play around with.

This. I agree. Even though I do guess that jungles are more tropical, unlike forests, which you would find near the alpine IRL. If we ever combined the two, I would stick to the forest name.

[Nectaris]

This. I agree. Even though I do guess that jungles are more tropical, unlike forests, which you would find near the alpine IRL. If we ever combined the two, I would stick to the forest name.

Not necessarily true. There are plenty of temperate forests that aren't located anywhere near alpine areas. I live in one of them. I do agree about merging forest and jungle though.

[MaggieXawesomeness]

Derp, oh yeah.

I was just thinking about freakin' Colorado forests...

 

 

[Cinnamin Draconna]

I sent this concept to TJ a couple of weeks ago. He didn't get back to me then, but he asked me to repost my idea in this thread.. so here goes...

 

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Alpine

1. of, pertaining to, on, or part of the Alps or any other high mountain system, especially one that has been shaped by intense glacial erosion.

Change to Tundra

A cold, treeless, usually lowland area of far northern regions. The lower strata of soil of tundras are permanently frozen, but in summer the top layer of soil thaws and can support low-growing mosses, lichens, grasses, and small shrubs.

Alpine tundra is a type of natural region or biome that does not contain trees because it is at high altitude.

Reasoning - Less limiting: can include mountains, upland meadows, high plains, subarctic regions, etc.

 

Coast

1. the land next to the sea; seashore: the rocky coast of Maine.

Change to Waterways

Reasoning - Can cover anything aquatic, freshwater or saltwater, sandy beaches, rocky headlands, riverbanks, ponds/lakes, etc.

 

Desert

1. a region so arid because of little rainfall that it supports only sparse and widely spaced vegetation or no vegetation at all

2. any area in which few forms of life can exist because of lack of water, permanent frost, or absence of soil.

Change to Savanna

Tropical and subtropical grasslands, savannas, and shrublands are a grassland terrestrial biome located in semi-arid to semi-humid climate regions of subtropical and tropical latitudes. Grasslands are dominated by grass and other herbaceous plants. Savannas are grasslands with scattered trees. Shrublands are dominated by woody or herbaceous shrubs.

Reasoning - Less limiting; allows for anyting from arid to humid, with or without trees.

 

Forest - no change

1. A dense growth of trees and underbrush covering a large area. Forests exist in all regions of the Earth except for regions of extreme cold or dryness.

 

Jungle - no change

1. a wild land overgrown with dense vegetation, often nearly impenetrable, especially tropical vegetation or a tropical rain forest.

 

Volcano

1. A cone-shaped mountain or hill created by molten material that rises from the interior of the Earth to the surface.

Change to Desolate

1. barren or laid waste; devastated: a treeless, desolate landscape.

2. deprived or destitute of inhabitants; deserted; uninhabited.

Reasoning - Less limiting; can include sand deserts, ice deserts, volcanic regions, radiation problems, raw chaos, pure evil, etc.

[Banuk]

I sent this concept to TJ a couple of weeks ago. He didn't get back to me then, but he asked me to repost my idea in this thread.. so here goes...

 

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Alpine

1. of, pertaining to, on, or part of the Alps or any other high mountain system, especially one that has been shaped by intense glacial erosion.

Change to Tundra

A cold, treeless, usually lowland area of far northern regions. The lower strata of soil of tundras are permanently frozen, but in summer the top layer of soil thaws and can support low-growing mosses, lichens, grasses, and small shrubs.

Alpine tundra is a type of natural region or biome that does not contain trees because it is at high altitude.

Reasoning - Less limiting: can include mountains, upland meadows, high plains, subarctic regions, etc.

 

Coast

1. the land next to the sea; seashore: the rocky coast of Maine.

Change to Waterways

Reasoning - Can cover anything aquatic, freshwater or saltwater, sandy beaches, rocky headlands, riverbanks, ponds/lakes, etc.

 

Desert

1. a region so arid because of little rainfall that it supports only sparse and widely spaced vegetation or no vegetation at all

2. any area in which few forms of life can exist because of lack of water, permanent frost, or absence of soil.

Change to Savanna

Tropical and subtropical grasslands, savannas, and shrublands are a grassland terrestrial biome located in semi-arid to semi-humid climate regions of subtropical and tropical latitudes. Grasslands are dominated by grass and other herbaceous plants. Savannas are grasslands with scattered trees. Shrublands are dominated by woody or herbaceous shrubs.

Reasoning - Less limiting; allows for anyting from arid to humid, with or without trees.

 

Forest - no change

1. A dense growth of trees and underbrush covering a large area. Forests exist in all regions of the Earth except for regions of extreme cold or dryness.

 

Jungle - no change

1. a wild land overgrown with dense vegetation, often nearly impenetrable, especially tropical vegetation or a tropical rain forest.

 

Volcano

1. A cone-shaped mountain or hill created by molten material that rises from the interior of the Earth to the surface.

Change to Desolate

1. barren or laid waste; devastated: a treeless, desolate landscape.

2. deprived or destitute of inhabitants; deserted; uninhabited.

Reasoning - Less limiting; can include sand deserts, ice deserts, volcanic regions, radiation problems, raw chaos, pure evil, etc.

I could live with this, yeah. Makes a lot of sense. ^^

[Pokemonfan13]

Works for me too. Although if another biome is needed there's always the option of merging forest and jungle. x3

[LadyLyzar]

I like it! However, I'd suggest changing the name "Desolate" to "Wasteland". I think that term more accurately portrays what you are going for, since "Desolate" does imply uninhabited and we would still be finding dragons there.

[Wobblegong]

Oh, I like that! Especially with LadyLyzar's "Wasteland" tweak. Yes please!

[Anna Selka]

I really like Cinnamin Dracona's idea, with the "Wasteland" tweak. Makes a lot of sense to me

 

As for the extra biome, if it were ever to be, I agree that prairie or grassland is a more appropriate name.

[Fuzzbucket]

I like Cinnamin's too. Except the tundra - as that feels to me to exclude mountainous regions.

 

cold, treeless, usually lowland area

 

Many Alpine () areas are not treeless at all, but are still cold and often snowy and the rest.

 

I'd also see waterways as very river-y; while I take the point, and agree with the description, there must be another word. Back with it later

 

ETA and I agree about wasteland.

 

ETA the pedant is back

 

Tundra =

a large flat area of land without trees in very cold northern parts of the world.

Not a hint of what we know as Alpine – skiers and so on. (yes yes they hadn't been invented, but the landscape they enjoy has !)

 

Now taiga:

The taiga is the terrestrial biome with the lowest annual average temperatures after the tundra and permanent ice caps. Extreme winter minimums in the northern taiga are typically lower than those of the tundra.

It covers forested AND MOUNTAINOUS areas.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga

 

That seems to work better, for me, as it doesn’t rule out coniferous forests up mountains with snow and all that !

 

As to the watery thing: how about littoral ?

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sandy area by body of water, the line or zone where the land meets the sea or some other large expanse of water

 

Edited February 27, 2013 by fuzzbucket

[Nectaris]

 

Jungle - no change

1. a wild land overgrown with dense vegetation, often nearly impenetrable, especially tropical vegetation or a tropical rain forest.

 

This is the only one I disagree with. I would rather change it to tropics. Tropics is much broader, and includes jungle, and isn't so close to forest, as it is now.

Edited February 27, 2013 by Nectaris

[olympe]

I agree with most of what Cinnamin suggested, but with a few changes as mentioned by others:

 

Alpine => Tundra Basically a good idea, but I'd like to go with Taiga instead, as someone else suggested. Or Coldlands/Icelands, even though those names are probably badly made up.

 

Coast => Waterways Not sure what to make of this. Waterways implies rivers to me, so maybe just Waterside? Wetlands? Waterfront?

 

Desert => Savannah Sounds good to me. Or use something like Arid for the name of the biome.

 

Keep Forest and Jungle the way they are. I'd prefer to merge them to Woodlands or Greenland to allow us to create another, very different biome.

 

Volcano => Desolate Let's call it Wastelands instead, alright?

 

This way, we have all kinds of forested areas, watery areas, cold areas, grasslands/hills (savannah) and extreme biomoes (wasteland). Which means we can still create something like an underground biome for dragons that live, well, underground or strictly in caves or something like that. (But that's just one idea. I've just seen a couple of dragon ideas that would work well for just such a biome, so the idea kind of popped into my mind.)

[Floralpikmin99]

I like the ideas of fusing a few biomes and adding more to the current ones. I have also always though that it was a bit weird to have a jungle and forest, they also seem to have very similar sets of dragons in them too.

 

Probably my favorite is the Alpine > Tundra. That way the ice Dragons and other cold climate dragons can fit happily there. I think the wasteland idea is cool too, it would make sense.

[TheGrox]

I would support Cinnamin Dracona's suggestions for changes in biomes.

 

Once we have a few more dragons, a new biome may be needed, so then I would support a grassland one. Not yet, though.

Edited February 27, 2013 by TheGrox

[Rally Vincent]

I would prefer to combine the mountains of Alpine and Volcano to a new "Mountains" area. I agree with Olympe on waterways - that sounds like rivers and canals. Overall, I'd prefer a total revamp of the biomes without too much shuffling of dragon breeds.

 

I suggest:

 

Wastelands: Includes barren regions like tundra, deserts of all types, basically any region that has extreme climatic conditions (temperature, wind etc)

 

Wetlands: rivers, lakes and swamps, including mangroves

 

Woodlands: Forests and djungles

 

Grasslands: ranging from rocky regions like northen Scotland to plains, prairie and african savanna

 

Mountains: includes all types of mountains, snowy as well as volcanic

 

Oceanic: includes oceans as well as as any type of coast (beaches, rocky etc)