Ridgewing Coloration Study

osmarks · July 22, 2018

I'm trying to find out the proportion of (bred) Ridgewings which come out tan. In order to help with this, please provide progeny (children) links for ridgewings which have had children below.

The rough probability of a Ridgewing being tan is then given by:

tan children / total ridgewing children

If you submit ridgewings, submit all you have, not just ones which have bred tans or anything silly like that.

Also, if you can, please add the number of each color you got, to save time.

The data provided so far has produced the result that about a quarter (162 of 582, assuming I counted right) come out tan.

Edited July 23, 2018 by osmarks
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Andromen · July 22, 2018

I've got this fella who might (?) be useful to you. Sadly no others.

EDIT: Just bred him again, and he produced this one.

Edited July 22, 2018 by Andromen

TheLlama · July 22, 2018

pair 1 pair 2 pair 3 pair 4

8/22 for me (counting a dead egg and ones just bred (6/18 otherwise))

The Dragoness · July 22, 2018

I have a few:

1 0/3

2 1/5

3 0/2

4 1/9

Total: 2/19 Ridgewings bred were tan

Edited July 22, 2018 by The Dragoness

Fly-by-Night · July 22, 2018

I have a project with Tan Ridgewings, so here goes (number of Purples / number of Tans). What to keep in mind:

1 - They're all Tans themselves.

2 - I usually stop breeding them once they've produced a Tan.

3 -Turps as partners... most of their offspring are Turps.

4- In January, there was a small wave of Tans in my breeding. I bred 4 tans in that month.

https://dragcave.net/progeny/1QgKn : 5/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/6QNke 1/1 (the Vampire was probably Purple, too, but I don't count her)

https://dragcave.net/progeny/TThAw 1/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/vRODJ 1/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/xWF6z 2/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/N8xew 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/2a128 2/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/1Myxm 1/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/AgkXq 1/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Z81HP 3/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/IhoGY 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/vdqi3 1/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/O5PpR 1/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/dAwHW 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/SzmfU 1/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/GKznW 1/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/5C3js 2/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/79mRh 1/0

https://dragcave.net/progeny/em0Va 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/p8Gue 1/0

Edit: 25/10 is the total ratio

Edited July 22, 2018 by Fly-by-Night

osmarks · July 22, 2018

Thanks to the people who did put the numbers on. I probably should have asked for that.

Avarule · July 22, 2018

1 & 2 - 3/19

3 - 0/3

4 & 5 - 0/1

Dirtytabs · July 22, 2018

Why do you say ridgewings with 0 tan children would "bias the study"? If a dragon has a dozen purple offspring and no tan and you don't include it, you would assume tans are more common than they really are. So I've included them anyway.

https://dragcave.net/progeny/cUbUs 1 tan 2 purple: 1/3

https://dragcave.net/progeny/2oiaC 0 tan 1 purple: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/AHe90 1 tan 1 purple: 1/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/JZvQJ 1 tan 3 purple: 1/4

https://dragcave.net/progeny/s5CZ3 2 tan 6 purple: 2/8

https://dragcave.net/progeny/zuyp4 0 tan 4 purple: 0/4

https://dragcave.net/progeny/G2a3O 7 tan 14 purple: 7/21

https://dragcave.net/progeny/bUWWy 2 tan 3 purple: 2/5

https://dragcave.net/progeny/tGRnp 0 tan 4 purple: 0/4

https://dragcave.net/progeny/RIiyK 0 tan 1 purple: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/OHZIS 1 tan 2 purple: 1/3

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Ot87x 0 tan 10 purple: 0/10

https://dragcave.net/progeny/P9FKH 5 tan 6 purple: 5/11

https://dragcave.net/progeny/i5UbR 1 tan 5 purple: 1/6

https://dragcave.net/progeny/UbJBR 1 tan 2 purple: 1/3

https://dragcave.net/progeny/OWzXW 0 tan 1 purple: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Ov4zb 0 tan 1 purple: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/9fu0w 0 tan 1 purple: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Xz93a 0 tan 1 purple: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/IAP2K 0 tan 2 purple: 0/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/SgT5e 0 tan 1 purple: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/mF8Xc 4 tan 11 purple: 4/15

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Y5tk4 4 tan 4 purple: 4/8

https://dragcave.net/progeny/ZOYUS 5 tan 20 purple: 5/25

https://dragcave.net/progeny/EhYRa 3 tan 15 purple: 3/18

https://dragcave.net/progeny/G9woz 4 tan 9 purple: 4/13

https://dragcave.net/progeny/RtSEj 2 tan 4 purple: 2/6

https://dragcave.net/progeny/j1FRy 0 tan 2 purple: 0/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/xK2z0 5 tan 5 purple: 5/10

https://dragcave.net/progeny/6zJVk 2 tan 17 purple: 2/19

https://dragcave.net/progeny/k777m 9 tan 12 purple: 9/21

https://dragcave.net/progeny/UHmPM 2 tan 3 purple: 2/5

https://dragcave.net/progeny/95GgW 2 tan 3 purple: 2/5

https://dragcave.net/progeny/TIFod 2 tan 1 purple: 2/3

https://dragcave.net/progeny/iN0Ky 1 tan 4 purple: 1/5

https://dragcave.net/progeny/mKcZ4 2 tan 2 purple: 2/4

https://dragcave.net/progeny/hx5ax 1 tan 2 purple: 1/3

https://dragcave.net/progeny/1p8wT 1 tan 3 purple: 1/4

Total: 71/249

Taking the occasional vampire into account and assuming none are tan ridgewings and some are purple ridgewings, it's about a quarter tan.

Ruby Eyes · July 22, 2018

1 tan 5 purple: https://dragcave.net/progeny/3SJF

5 tan 4 purple: https://dragcave.net/progeny/ZEg4

2 tan 3 purple: https://dragcave.net/progeny/P0Z4r

3 tan no purple (probably. I don't know what that Vamp was) : https://dragcave.net/progeny/2ht94

2 tan 3 purple, 1 vamp: https://dragcave.net/progeny/TDmrl

2 tan 4 purple: https://dragcave.net/progeny/dMb0s

6 tan 2 purple :blink: https://dragcave.net/progeny/kE92S

0 tan 4 purple: https://dragcave.net/progeny/pm1Al

1 tan after 10 purples: https://dragcave.net/progeny/n/Blynnerkrigg Court

22 tan, 35 purples ... plus an unknown number of eggs that died on other people's scroll.

Edited July 22, 2018 by Ruby Eyes

Alectrona · July 23, 2018

https://dragcave.net/progeny/yEKqh 16 purple, 3 tan: 3/19

https://dragcave.net/progeny/mOULy 2 purple, 0 tan: 0/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/olerR 1 purple, 0 tan: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/JRCST 1 purple, 0 tan: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/dCrOT 6 purple, 5 tan: 5/11

https://dragcave.net/progeny/75MtE 4 purple, 3 tan: 3/7

https://dragcave.net/progeny/67roq 11 purple, 2 tan: 2/13

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Cxj6s 3 purple, 3 tan: 3/6

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Nb2Aj 2 purple, 3 tan: 3/5

https://dragcave.net/progeny/nXuSh 6 purple, 5 tan: 5/11

https://dragcave.net/progeny/ViU0B 14 purple, 4 tan: 4/18

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Nj1ZV 8 purple, 2 tan: 2/10

https://dragcave.net/progeny/ynpFT 2 purple, 0 tan: 0/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Jxyf4 7 purple, 1 tan: 1/8

https://dragcave.net/progeny/j62RV 1 purple, 0 tan: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/l3blt 9 purple, 1 tan: 1/10

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Lgyec 1 purple, 0 tan: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/RFvay 1 purple, 0 tan: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/sKHjL 3 purple, 1 tan: 1/4

https://dragcave.net/progeny/oRIah 1 purple, 1 tan: 1/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/c8rkD 1 purple, 1 tan: 1/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/c3r7b 5 purple, 6 tan: 6/11

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Jiaxl 1 purple, 1 tan: 1/2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/Q3G4Q 4 purple, 2 tan: 4/6

https://dragcave.net/progeny/dOK1G 7 purple, 0 tan: 0/7

https://dragcave.net/progeny/QdDzT 5 purple, 0 tan: 0/5

https://dragcave.net/progeny/kuKpP 1 purple, 0 tan: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/ngG5B 5 purple, 2 tan: 2/7

https://dragcave.net/progeny/1FbFA 1 purple, 0 tan: 0/1

https://dragcave.net/progeny/kxeNb 2 purple, 0 tan: 0/2

Total is 131 purple, 46 tan: 46/177

That makes it roughly a quarter tan from my scroll.

osmarks · July 23, 2018

18 hours ago, Dirtytabs said:

Why do you say ridgewings with 0 tan children would "bias the study"? If a dragon has a dozen purple offspring and no tan and you don't include it, you would assume tans are more common than they really are. So I've included them anyway.

I probably misphrased that. I meant that including or not including them based on that would bias it.

EDIT: Probably misphrased that too: just submit any ridgewings you own.

Edited July 23, 2018 by osmarks

Fuzzbucket · July 23, 2018

To get any kind of stats you need to include every bred ridgewing....

I'm sorry - I have too many....

angelicdragonpuppy · July 25, 2018

As far as setting up a basic ratio goes this is fine, but if you want to be real technical about it you should have everyone breed a bunch of Ridgewings right now and post the results. With past bred things there’s the possibility that tans were more likely to survive than purples due to being more sought after in the AP, which could artificially inflate their numbers among the surviving progeny.

Again that’s only if you want to be REALLY technical with it, haha.

VixenDra · July 25, 2018

https://dragcave.net/progeny/BoQA2

https://dragcave.net/progeny/J01D4

(I bet all the Vampires were not tan, It's frustrating to see people mass kill-risk your hard work regardless the breed/alt tho:/)

Edited July 25, 2018 by VixenDra

osmarks · July 26, 2018

On 7/25/2018 at 9:32 AM, angelicdragonpuppy said:

As far as setting up a basic ratio goes this is fine, but if you want to be real technical about it you should have everyone breed a bunch of Ridgewings right now and post the results. With past bred things there’s the possibility that tans were more likely to survive than purples due to being more sought after in the AP, which could artificially inflate their numbers among the surviving progeny.

Again that’s only if you want to be REALLY technical with it, haha.

That would be a good idea for investigating other alts, but I think that the current figure of about 1 in 4 being tan is good enough for most uses.

Aalbiel · July 27, 2018

On 7/25/2018 at 10:32 AM, angelicdragonpuppy said:

As far as setting up a basic ratio goes this is fine, but if you want to be real technical about it you should have everyone breed a bunch of Ridgewings right now and post the results. With past bred things there’s the possibility that tans were more likely to survive than purples due to being more sought after in the AP, which could artificially inflate their numbers among the surviving progeny.

Again that’s only if you want to be REALLY technical with it, haha.

Even purple Ridgewings always get picked up from AP, though, eventually... Never seen an egg die from timer in AP, apart from Holiday walls of course.

However I suppose it's possible that in the past tans were more/less likely to be bred because coding was tweaked or something, alas, we shall never know. I still think even looking at older Ridgewings will give us a pretty good idea.

My results:

1 - 1/4 (1 tan out of 4 total Ridgewing offspring)

2 - 0/1

3 - 1/1

4 - 1/3

5 - 0/6

Edited July 27, 2018 by Aalbiel

Ruby Eyes · July 27, 2018

2 hours ago, Aalbiel said:

Even purple Ridgewings always get picked up from AP, though, eventually... Never seen an egg die from timer in AP, apart from Holiday walls of course.

They die on people's scrolls who just seem to forget them (seen it for my own massbreeding results), or they're used in experiments for NDs, possibly, or they get bitten and turn into Vampires or eggshells.