Watching the Market

[Shokomon]

On 8/27/2021 at 10:44 PM, PonyTales said:

Sure you can add it  

 

I can do that when I get home, but if you’re curious, the chart on the first page of the spreadsheet is interactive and can show whichever breed you wanted. You can also download it from there! 😬

 

Edit: Here it is:

Thank you!

 

5 hours ago, PonyTales said:

Update to spreadsheet!
You can now choose which time period you want to see on the spreadsheet, just enter the dates in the boxes indicated and the chart will update

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ulrW1IEbuoVsNhJYWX3vsGJUNFP62P45IcJV8ebYwk/edit?usp=sharing

 

 

You've been working so hard on this spreadsheet! It's really great! Now if only we could pick the colors.

 

And it's so staggering to see that even compared to Magmas and Aeons, Staterae have been continously increasing. For all other dragons, they have slowly dropped, risen and then stabilized, or remained relatively constant. 

Not the Staterae, they have been practically increasing linearly. What the heck?! 

 

Speaking of:

On 9/9/2021 at 6:24 AM, PonyTales said:

Another price increase for Strats to 4,000 o:

 

 

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ulrW1IEbuoVsNhJYWX3vsGJUNFP62P45IcJV8ebYwk/edit?usp=sharing

RIP everyone who wants to by one of these guys...

 

You know... I didn't actually thinks Stateraes would beat the Magamas as most expensive dragon ever, but...t's getting more and more likely...

 

And it's not stopping....

 

When will it END? 

WHEN @TJ09??!!! 

 

*screams into the internet void*

 

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Edit: Someone earlier had mentioned it, but now I actually kinda wish there was a Dragon Cave Stock Market. 

I would have bought into the Straterae if I could. Not that I have money for that now...

Edited September 11, 2021 by Shokomon

[Kegluneq]

@Shokomon and I didn't think anything would beat the price of Golds.

 

Or Chicken.

 

Chicken is really "cheap" now compared to their price many months ago. 

 

The case of the Magmas is very interesting, I'm not a very good hunter but I caught enough Magmas in the past months, I consider myself lucky >.<

[PonyTales]

Fall is here!

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ulrW1IEbuoVsNhJYWX3vsGJUNFP62P45IcJV8ebYwk/edit?usp=sharing

 

A pile of dragons dropped in price (including Strats!) and Harvests and Imperial fleshcrownes have left for the Fall

	21 Sep 2021	22 Sep 2021	Change in price
Aeon Wyvern	1,800	1,700	-100
Almerald Dragon	400	300	-100
Blusang Lindwyrm	1,200	1,100	-100
Gold Dragon	2,100	2,000	-100
Golden Wyvern	1,600	1,500	-100
Harvest Dragon	100	600	500
Ice Dragon	3,300	3,200	-100
Imperial Fleshcrowne Dragon	100	1,000	900
Magma Dragon	4,500	4,400	-100
Paper Dragon	2,500	2,400	-100
Red-Tailed Wyrm	400	300	-100
Ridgewing Dragon	500	400	-100
Thunder Dragon	3,200	3,100	-100
Xenowyrm (Staterae)	4,000	3,900	-100
Gallus gallus domesticus	3,400	3,300	-100
Pterodactylus maximus	2,100	2,000	-100
Stegosaurus stenops	2,200	2,100	-100

 

[HeatherMarie]

Daaaang, that change in Imperial Fleshcrowns! I know they 'migrate' or whatever and are less abundant at certain times, but wow that's a huge price leap. 

[Charu]

It might be a good time to pick up something you’ve been eyeballing. The price might up by 100 or 200 again with the monthly NR, so I don’t expect these prices to stay permanent. It seems like the prices (Not you, Stats) are pretty normalized and bounce up 100 for the NR, then back down again. 

[PonyTales]

Oops Stats are back to 4k :')

[Charu]

I think we can all relate to this crappy meme I Photoshopped up.

 

This is meant to be silly and not intended to be hateful. People who wanted these dragons definitely won, but people who were looking for Stateraes definitely lost. Pretty much all of these dragons have had super predictable pricing, spiking with NRs, then dropping again a few weeks later when the ratios even out. 

 

Edited September 24, 2021 by Charu

[Shokomon]

On 9/22/2021 at 7:09 AM, PonyTales said:

Fall is here!

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ulrW1IEbuoVsNhJYWX3vsGJUNFP62P45IcJV8ebYwk/edit?usp=sharing

 

A pile of dragons dropped in price (including Strats!) and Harvests and Imperial fleshcrownes have left for the Fall

	21 Sep 2021	22 Sep 2021	Change in price
Aeon Wyvern	1,800	1,700	-100
Almerald Dragon	400	300	-100
Blusang Lindwyrm	1,200	1,100	-100
Gold Dragon	2,100	2,000	-100
Golden Wyvern	1,600	1,500	-100
Harvest Dragon	100	600	500
Ice Dragon	3,300	3,200	-100
Imperial Fleshcrowne Dragon	100	1,000	900
Magma Dragon	4,500	4,400	-100
Paper Dragon	2,500	2,400	-100
Red-Tailed Wyrm	400	300	-100
Ridgewing Dragon	500	400	-100
Thunder Dragon	3,200	3,100	-100
Xenowyrm (Staterae)	4,000	3,900	-100
Gallus gallus domesticus	3,400	3,300	-100
Pterodactylus maximus	2,100	2,000	-100
Stegosaurus stenops	2,200	2,100	-100

 

MERCY WAS GRANTED US.

 

On 9/24/2021 at 1:07 PM, PonyTales said:

Oops Stats are back to 4k :')

...Nvm. lol

 

RIP.

 

F in the Chat.

 

On 9/24/2021 at 4:22 PM, Charu said:

I think we can all relate to this crappy meme I Photoshopped up.

 

This is meant to be silly and not intended to be hateful. People who wanted these dragons definitely won, but people who were looking for Stateraes definitely lost. Pretty much all of these dragons have had super predictable pricing, spiking with NRs, then dropping again a few weeks later when the ratios even out. 

 

*cackles*

 

This is great.

Gonna add this to the OP.

 

Edit:

- Long term market prices

Just to compare some of the "dragons" of note I usually like to look at.

• Magmas have a serious competitor in the Staterae, and it's scaring me.
• Nexus and Silvers are the same price and I don't understand. (Technically Nexuses are higher at 1800 shards to 1600 shards for Silvers...Why???)
• Coppers are largely stable, which I appreciate. 
• Aeons have slowly trended up, but due their utility, and affect on certain breeds, understandable. 
• Chicken prices are trending down and that makes me happy. 

 

I want some kind of symbol for shards that I can use... I can't copy the one on the actual website. It'd be nice to use something like a Dollar Sign ,"$," for them. 

Edited September 25, 2021 by Shokomon

[Charu]

NR dropped. Everything rare/uncommon readjusted +100 again including stats. Our favorite purple noodles are now 4,100!

[Kegluneq]

Mirisia Amphiptere and Scymrian Pygmy both at 200 shards! O.o°

[PonyTales]

Ooh a general increase in the Xenowyrm prices from 100->200 shards.

 

	3 Oct 2021	10 Oct 2021	Change in price
Aeon Wyvern	1,800	1,700	-100
Blusang Lindwyrm	1,200	1,100	-100
Ice Dragon	3,300	3,200	-100
Magma Dragon	4,500	4,400	-100
Paper Dragon	2,500	2,400	-100
Thunder Dragon	3,200	3,100	-100
Xenowyrm (Aquilo)	100	200	100
Xenowyrm (Aso)	100	200	100
Xenowyrm (Ke'maro)	100	200	100
Xenowyrm (Obidar)	100	200	100
Xenowyrm (Pharos)	100	200	100
Xenowyrm (Umbra)	100	200	100

[HeatherMarie]

Is this the first time the newer-Xenos have changed prices? Interesting, maybe they are finally starting to even out population-wise.

[PonyTales]

3 hours ago, HeatherMarie said:

Is this the first time the newer-Xenos have changed prices? Interesting, maybe they are finally starting to even out population-wise.

 

As far as the data points I have, yes seems like it's the first time!

[PonyTales]

This week's changes:

 

	10 Oct 2021	17 Oct 2021	Change in price
Almerald Dragon	400	300	-100
Elux Lucis Dragon	100	200	100
Golden Wyvern	1,600	1,500	-100
Ridgewing Dragon	500	400	-100
Gallus gallus domesticus	3,400	3,300	-100
Stegosaurus stenops	2,200	2,100	-100

[PonyTales]

Stats are now 4,200! Stats are just 200 away from being the highest priced dragon :')

 

[Charu]

Sheesh the price spiked and the NR hasn't happened yet. I wonder if it will make that 200 jump next week or so when we get Halloween dragons?

[PonyTales]

This week's changes  

 

	17 Oct 2021	23 Oct 2021	Change in price
Blancblack Dragon	500	600	100
Red-Tailed Wyrm	400	300	-100
Spirit Ward Dragon	300	200	-100
Xenowyrm (Staterae)	4,100	4,200	100

[PonyTales]

Happy Halloween! Stats have reached a new all-time high!

 

	23 Oct 2021	31 Oct 2021	Change in price
Celestial Dragon	400	300	-100
Gilded Bloodscale Dragon	1,000	900	-100
Xenowyrm (Staterae)	4,200	4,300	100

[Chaos Rider]

If they'd stayed put I could've got a Stat this week. Hopefully it won't increase again next week

[Shokomon]

F's in the Chat again for anyone who needs a Staterae.

 

There is a serious contender for Magma's spot of Priciest Dragon and that's terrifying.

[PonyTales]

New week, new pile of reduction in prices  

 

	31 Oct 2021	7 Nov 2021	Change in price
Aranoa Dragon	100	200	100
Baikala Dragon	700	600	-100
Baikala Dragon	700	600	-100
Triceratops horridus	2,100	2,000	-100

[Shokomon]

Because I haven't done this in a while

 

Current Prices of Rare Dragons and Other Dragons (and Non-Dragons) of Interest:

 

Aeon Wyvern

1,700

Blusang Lindwyrm
1,100

Cheese Dragon
2,200

Copper Dragons
1,400

Gilded Bloodscale Dragon

(below 1000 shards; will no longer be listed)
900

Gold Dragon
2,100

Golden Wyvern
1,500

Ice Dragon
3,200

Imperial Fleshcrowne Dragon
1,000

Magma Dragon
4,400  ⬇️-300!

Nexus Dragon
1,600

Paper Dragon
2,400

Silver Dragon
1,600

Thunder Dragon
3,100

Xenowyrm (Staterae)
4,300 ⬆️+1100!!!!!!! 

Xenowyrm (2015)
500

Xenowyrms (2020)
200

Diplodocus carnegii
2,000

Gallus gallus domesticus
3,300 ⬇️-400!

Parasaurolophus cyrtocristatus
1,600 ⬇️-600!! 

Pterodactylus maximus
2,100

Stegosaurus stenops
2,100

Triceratops horridus
2,000

 

 

Bolded = the most expensive item; Underlined = True Rares; Italicized = Interesting or Unusual Pricing; Green = Price Down from last post; Red = Price Up from last post

• It's funny to think that when this concept was be discussed way back that every one was worried about Golds and destroying the ratios. Then, when the Market came out, we were worried about skyrocketing Gold Prices... In reality, Gold and Silver prices are ridiculously cheap for their rarity.
• And, who would imagine something like the Staterate with their particularly linear increasing price.
• Speaking, Staterae are almost the same price as the reigning champion of high prices, Magma dragons which have dropped a good bit from the last time I did this, which was way back in May. Wow... Oops...
• Nexuses and Silvers are the same prices, and I still don't understand...
• I can buy any dino I  want know... Huh.
• Also, since the Imperial Fleshcrownes have migrated for the year,  prices have risen up to 1000 shards an egg again. 
• Gilded Bloodscales used to be at 1000, but they have finally dropped below that, so they will be off the list, unless the price jumps up again.

 

On a different note, Daylight Saving has ended in the US, which means both Eastern Time and Dragon Cave time are pushed back an hour. Lunar Hearlds eggs changes occur at 7:00 PM EST/DC now. 

 

I don't think any other breed is affected by daylight savings. 

Edited November 7, 2021 by Shokomon
formatting and additions

[HeatherMarie]

1 hour ago, Shokomon said:

 

• It's funny to think that when this concept was be discussed way back that every one was worried about Golds and destroying the ratios. Then, when the Market came out, we were worried about skyrocketing Gold Prices... In reality, Gold and Silver prices are ridiculously cheap for their rarity.
• And, who would imagine something like the Staterate with their particularly linear increasing price.

 

It's definitely interesting to have been around for the whole 'Traders Canyon' thread, and all the concerns during that and when the Market was first introduced, and now comparing the actual reality of the Market. I'm still just astounded that there are *any* dragons more expensive than Golds, they used to be the absolute highest-tier rare (though admittedly even when the Market was first introduced they weren't as scarce as they once were). 

[Reykur]

I have yet to even miss a single cb Gold and have easily caught a good few Magmas. And regarding trades I sometimes get offered Magmas for relatively easy to obtain things like a Xeno or some cb hatchies. They do not nearly feel as rare as they are priced.
I do feel that Silver and Gold prices are reasonable though. It's not like you can buy one every other week and watching trade requests and offers it does not feel like they went down in value.

Wonder if the Staterate will ever go back down by a considerable amount or just go upward. Do we know if there is a cap for market prices? Or could an egg theoretically skyrocket to 10000 shards or whatever crazy number?

[HeatherMarie]

I think the Magma price will always be a strange mystery, I don't think anyone has come up with a good explanation why they are *so* expensive (especially compared to 'true rares' like Golds and given the fact the other two Trios aren't anywhere near as high). I'm still holding hope that Stats will eventually even out, though they've been around a good handful of months (wait it's been over a year???) now they are still relatively recent and probably still doing the whole 'ratio balancing' thing. 

 

Cap for Market prices, that's a good question. How high is it possible to actually go? Originally TJ said this:

Quote

• I followed the rough goal from the thread of ~6 months to earn rares, but due to prices fluctuating, it's not exact.

 

but that seems to be out the window at this point. Golds are still roughly in that timeframe, but others are so far past it that I don't think that can really be used as an indicator anymore.

 

Edited November 7, 2021 by HeatherMarie