Add codes of abandoned things to action log

[angelicdragonpuppy]

Would it be possible to do this, please? The only reason I can think of that it isn't already that way is as some sort of privacy feature since they no longer belong to you, but since most eggs leaving someone's scroll were probably bred by them and can thus be tracked, it's usually a moot point anyway.

 

Asking because I just went on a two hour long mystery hunt trying to figure out how an egg I'd been sent ended up on someone else's scroll. People had helped me hatch some eggs and I thought it had gotten lost there, but the breeder confirmed it went to someone else entirely. I'm guessing then that /I/ goofed up and abandoned it while tossing AP eggs back, but without codes showing in the action log, it's impossible to tell...

[Spiteful_Crow]

I think this is a good idea too, and I hope you figure out what happened with your egg.

 

I also kind of thought it would be a good thing for eggs you've picked up from the AP, but I don't know if that violates "privacy" issues more than it would with eggs you have personally bred. There are some eggs I grab but don't keep (due to lack of space most of the time), but would like to keep track of for lineage ideas later on.

[angelicdragonpuppy]

3 hours ago, Spiteful_Crow said:

I think this is a good idea too, and I hope you figure out what happened with your egg.

 

I also kind of thought it would be a good thing for eggs you've picked up from the AP, but I don't know if that violates "privacy" issues more than it would with eggs you have personally bred. There are some eggs I grab but don't keep (due to lack of space most of the time), but would like to keep track of for lineage ideas later on.

 

Thank you! It's still a mystery, but an extremely kind person gifted me a replacement, so all is beyond good <3

 

Heh, I do that with some eggs too--can't keep them for lack of space, but ask the person later if I can beg for a non-holiday! Anyway, I imagine if this were done, it would show codes for every egg you abandon, regardless of origin.

[HeatherMarie]

I honestly do not like this idea. The privacy issues you mentioned are a big concern in general, I can see this causing tons of problems. Look at all the viewbombing that's been going on the last few months, if someone could easily track every single egg they abandon I can very easily see them using it in a negative way, deliberately trying to kill the egg if it ends up on the scroll of someone they don't like, or even simply 'helping' by adding that egg into hatcheries (and we all know what usually happens then). I know it can be frustrating when you accidentally abandon an egg, but given how many eggs are often auto-abandoned when breeding for the AP, and how many eggs people throw back while hunting the AP (especially during holidays), I worry that being able to easily track them all could only lead to bad things. 

[purplehaze]

But, @HeatherMarie, we can already track the eggs we have bred just by going to the parent's page. Granted, this would make it easier by finding them all in one place, but still I don't see it having a big impact. As to AP eggs we abandon I don't know why anyone would want to track those. Of course I don't understand the mind of a viewbomber at all.

 

I am pretty much neutral on this suggestion, but i don't really see it being useful, except in rare instances like the one ADP cited in the OP and I'm not sure it is worth changing just for those few times.

Edited February 15, 2018 by purplehaze

[HeatherMarie]

True, we can track the eggs we bred, but this suggestion includes *everything* we abandon, including AP eggs, which imo is a concern. I don't understand the minds of viewbombers either, but just from seeing the massive attacks these last few months I wouldn't want a feature that makes it a million times easier to keep track of eggs that are no longer yours.

[Ruby Eyes]

I don't think eggs you pick from the AP and drop again have enough "value" to make any viewbomber get out their big guns. Plus, if said viewbomber *had* the egg on their scroll to begin with, why viewbomb what you could just keep?

 

This suggestion is more of a way to be able to tell what happened to an egg you once had and lost. That's what the action log is for, after all.

Could be an egg from the cave (no parents to track), from a trade or a gift (would you still know the egg's parents' names?) or something you yourself bred.

 

You see the codes for eggs you entrust to your own Magi - why not when you abandon or offer on a trade? Seems like half done and half forgotten.

[ArgentiAertheri]

One potential issue with this — I must’ve grabbed and rejected a few dozen eggs when hunting for valentine dragons to freeze. So many pretty lineages I just couldn’t bear to end! ...but that I don’t need cluttering up my action log.

[Tish]

Yes please I'd love this feature.

 

@ArgentiAertheri They're already cluttering your log aren't they? I'm guessing the only change would be adding the code to the existing message so something like "Abandoned an egg or hatchling XXXXX."

[ArgentiAertheri]

*checks* 

 

You’re right, ignore me

[TJ09]

The reason the speciifc dragon doesn't show up is because once you've abandoned something, you have no claim to it. A secondary goal is to keep the action looking relatively correct even when the egg grows up, etc (though there's definitely a number of bugs around that).

 

Just because it's possible to stalk eggs that you've abandoned, it doesn't become a good idea for the site to endorse that sort of thing.

[Fuzzbucket]

I think the issue here is that the OP didn't realise they HAD abandoned it and was looking for verification, so they would then know they had been an idiot,  rather than there having been a glitch. TJ - perhaps you could check for them ?

 

I must say I would not want the 100+ eggs I got from the AP and dumped over the last couple of days showing up in there...

[TJ09]

10 minutes ago, Fuzzbucket said:

I think the issue here is that the OP didn't realise they HAD abandoned it and was looking for verification, so they would then know they had been an idiot,  rather than there having been a glitch. TJ - perhaps you could check for them ?

 

I must say I would not want the 100+ eggs I got from the AP and dumped over the last couple of days showing up in there...

ADP did message me about it, and I provided a bit more information via PM.

[Fuzzbucket]

Ah. Thanks. In that case - I'm with you. TMI for the action log.

[HeatherMarie]

6 hours ago, TJ09 said:

The reason the speciifc dragon doesn't show up is because once you've abandoned something, you have no claim to it. A secondary goal is to keep the action looking relatively correct even when the egg grows up, etc (though there's definitely a number of bugs around that).

 

Just because it's possible to stalk eggs that you've abandoned, it doesn't become a good idea for the site to endorse that sort of thing.

 

Thank you for an official stance on this, I very very much agree. 

 

I've accidentally abandoned things in the past as well, I think anyone who's been on DC for awhile has done that at least once. But I really don't think it's a good idea to give people an easy, site-supported way to stalk dragons they have no claim to, and while I totally understand that's not what the OP wanted this for, that *is* what would end up happening a lot. We already have that problem to a certain extent now, I can only imagine this making it worse.

[Spiteful_Crow]

I do understand the concerns here, so what if you could only see them once they've grown up?

[purplehaze]

3 hours ago, Spiteful_Crow said:

I do understand the concerns here, so what if you could only see them once they've grown up?

I don't understand what would be the point of that. Once they've grown it would be pages back on your action log and would be easier to find on the parent's progeny list, if you own the parents. And if you don't, why do you need to find the code of something you had on your scroll at one time and then abandoned?

[Fuzzbucket]

Yes. I think the point was to find out if you had made a mistake. By the time they are grown up - you really don't need to know any more.

[Spiteful_Crow]

21 hours ago, purplehaze said:

I don't understand what would be the point of that. Once they've grown it would be pages back on your action log and would be easier to find on the parent's progeny list, if you own the parents. And if you don't, why do you need to find the code of something you had on your scroll at one time and then abandoned?

 

I mentioned this on my first post (the second one in the thread here), but basically, it's because I pick up a lot of things with pretty lineages, but can't keep them all, and there are some I'd like to use as a reference for future breeding plans. Sure, I can save the links to them, but that can be a little difficult, especially if I'm trying to collect eggs rapidly (like during an event), so having optional links to the adults would be a neat feature. At the same time, I realize there are legitimate concerns around this issue and that there probably isn't much demand for it, so it's not something I'm really going to push for, either.

 

Basically, I just thought it was a neat idea and I was thinking out loud, so to speak, so I'm sorry if this is a distraction from the original purpose of this thread.

 

Edited February 20, 2018 by Spiteful_Crow
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[purplehaze]

1 hour ago, Spiteful_Crow said:

Basically, I just thought it was a neat idea and I was thinking out loud, so to speak, so I'm sorry if this is a distraction from the original purpose of this thread.

No, I think it was okay, since it is another reason to want the same thing. I had missed your first post, so didn't understand your purpose.