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Spinels Not Producing PB Greens

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So, I find it incredibly odd that breed with other Earth Aligned Dragons, Spinel Wyverns can produce Green Spinel Wyverns yet when breed with each other all they ever produce are red eggs. I want to know the chances of getting a green from two red Spinels as no one has gotten one yet. Can they produce green offspring? Or can they produce only red Spinels?

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The information provided with the Spinels says green Spinels are bred "if both parents are Earth element, though green alt breeds true if bred with not-Earth."

 

Nothing in there covers how a pair of red Spinels breed. One could argue that Spinel x Spinel falls under the more general Spinel x {any earth} case. That means, however, that the former would always produce green Spinels just as the latter does; that seems to not be the intent, so I excluded the PB pairing from that case.

 

Thus, right now they can only produce more red Spinels. Given the confusion, I may change it so that there's an even chance of both, but I'd have to follow up with TCA on that first to make sure that it's okay to deviate from what she intended.

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Bumping to ask - if I try to breed a PB spinel line - will a checker red green NEVER be possible - will two spinels always make green ?

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It seems so.

https://dragcave.net/lineage/ghHfk

 

Unfortunately a PB red lineage is also impossible... (Got the 2G reds before the changes were made.)

https://dragcave.net/lineage/G7muc

 

Both pairs gave me only greens so far.

https://dragcave.net/progeny/yhY70

https://dragcave.net/progeny/H7Naa

 

Edited by Seriva Senkalora

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That's what I was afraid of, but I'd like official conformation. So sad - I wanted to do a checker :(

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Just to be clear, If I want Green Spinels - I can breed two CB Spinels, and I WILL get 2G Green ones, right?

 

It's just my Spinels don't like giving me eggs (even with Fertility), so I need to be sure, before I will try to breed them weak after weak XD

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Speaking to TCA about the purebreds on the Discord clarified that she never actually thought about the PB mechanics much. However, she also said that they are supposed to produce both (much like the the rest of the breed alts, greens are supposed to be rare to get and reds were supposed to be common) but for some reason, the mechanic for PBs is screwed up to where no one got greens at first and now no one can get reds

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It was screwed up AT FIRST - but now it isn't: when bred with earth they breed green - and they are earth, so....

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Which, if you think about it, doesn't really make sense. CB spinels, which would have been bred in the wild - and are most likely pureblooded - are pink. And yet, if they're bred in captivity, they don't produce offspring of their own kind.

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Well, to quote Dalek Raptor, apparently TCA didn't think it through very hard :lol:

 

I wish she would; I wanted to do a red/green checker :)

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Only TCA can tell you exactly what's going on. I asked her as soon as I noticed this thread getting bumped for attention and I'm just quoting what she told me as best as I can remember

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