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2017-02-14 - Valentine's Day!

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Actually I hadn't even considered the contract thing. Isn't one of them a minor??? How is that handled?

According to the profiles neither is a minor, the younger would be 19.

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Well I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed at the changed sprites, but the new art is nice too. I love the wings on the adult.

 

I definitely liked the first hatchlings better.

Yeah, I liked the old ones much better, but the new gendered hatchling is still okay (the ungendered new one is weird...glad I didn't plan on freezing it) The adults are quite nice, though. Too bad I'll never see the old adult.

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v-v pity. I much preferred the old sprites. nice work just the same, they just don't really catch my interest as the others. it is nice that the change happened before anyone could breed. I had intended on freezing hatchied next year, so I appreciate the quick change now as it has changed my plans. I do feel bad for those who froze wanting the old sprite.

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Ohhhh my god those adult sprites are so gorgeous.

 

I mean, maybe I'm biased because I'm a huge fan of the purple/gold combination, but STILL. These past few Valentine dragons have really been gorgeous in terms of overall design and I just love it.

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*blink*

I don't know who was involved with the replacement sprite set (I for one was not), but I am PieMaster, and I approve this message.

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Who will I breed them with first?

Said it the first time and now I'm 100% sure I'll breed them with this guy! 💖

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I don't know who was involved with the replacement sprite set (I for one was not), but I am PieMaster, and I approve this message.

I also thought they looked like them >->

 

Also I wish we could get a better explanation on the change.

 

If the sprite had to change that's one thing but the complete look of the dragon has changed except the gold purple color scheme :/ I want the fluff and back hooves back and it seems like the sprite was suppose to have the pearl between the horns and not being held in a paw. (Having it in the paw also kinda seems like a rip off of Pearlcatcher dragons from Flight Rising I hope they move it to the horns like the original description says it should be)

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Comparison:

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WTFreakinHell is this??!!! :/

WHY TJ, WHY...

Worst sprite update ever, much worse than the Nilia pygmies(and Nilias were at least replaced into a set from the same artist)...

this is a joke, it just must be... I want my pro-quality sprites back on my scroll and in the game sad.gif

And I believe the original adults were also better? (The current don't look uigly but, well, it's not the standard the cave was heading at for quite a while already... a bit of a drawback, they don't look so smooth even compared the original hatchlings) Did anyone have a chance to see them?

 

TJ, I believe the palyer base deserves a good explaination for this, what you've given is a joke in this particular situation...

This time I feel so cheated I cannot even... The new set, I'm sorry, but doesn't even compare to the original:/ What could possibly be a VALID reason for this to happen, really??? If you release sth you shouldn't take it away like this... it's just... aghh I need an even longer break:/

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Also is it just me or does the new S1 hatchling look like it has googly eyes? >-> They look too big

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Looks Like I can start over after winning the game! Also there is new stuff to do!

 

So, I'm just going to post my quicky guide as Day 1 stuff.

 

(Edit: NOTE! Day 2 stuff is NOT an extra day! It's just additional things you can do that weren't there yesterday.

 

Also, if you do not want to read the guide and just want a list of commands to follow, please check the "Other Guides" section. It shows a variety of lists that you can use to complete the game as well as some specific help.

 

And, Thank you everyone involved in this event! It was fun!! biggrin.gif)

 

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First off BADGES!

 

Made by Shokomon:

A badge representing everyone's frustration with the game:

- Transparent background: user posted image

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- Scroll background: user posted image

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A badge for getting to the end of the game. (Well, what we know is the end so far.)

May all of you have found some kind of love, be it platonic, romantic, or just plain weird. xd.png

- Transparent background: user posted image

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- Scroll background: user posted image

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Lastly, one last badge for people who are or were trapped by the BRAMBLE BUSH OF ENTRAMPMENT! (+Taunting Squirrel)

- Transparent: user posted image

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Made by Others:

---- Bush Party Banner Made by Cygnis:

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---- Bush Party Button Made by AceLizard:

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---- "True Love" Valentine's Day 2017 Made by dragonwinxzodiac:

- Button: user posted image

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Shokomon's (not so) Quickie Guide

(Highlight for Spoilers; Gray because kinda spoilers.)

 

Day 1 Hints

 

For the Nest

 

1. Try investigating around the NEST. "EXAMINE NEST"

a. You may be able to investigate and pick up some things. ex: "EXAMINE SKELETONS" or "TAKE COINS"

b. You should look at your PLANNER. "EXAMINE PLANNER"

 

2. To leave the NEST, you gotta try to leave. "LEAVE NEST"

a. You should be specific on how you should leave the NEST. "CLIMB DOWN" OR "CLIMB BRANCHES"

 

For the Mountain Path, Path Fork, and Cliff

 

1. Follow the pathway. "TAKE PATH" or "GO <insert direction>"

a. Don't forget to collect stuff! "Take Armor"

 

2. Eventually, you will be blocked the TREE.

a. You could try to remove the tree. "USE AXE ON THE TREE" or "CHOP TREE WITH AXE"

b. Or you could just take the fork in the path on the LEFT. "GO LEFT"

c. If you take the fork, make sure to investigate and pick up stuff. ex: "TAKE ARMOR" or "EXAMINE PICKAXE"

 

2.If you take the fork, continue forward until you are at the CLIFF. "GO FORWARD"

a. You will see a horse.

b. Engage the horse. "EXAMINE THE HORSE"

c. There are reports of people being unable to engage the horse. Do not worry if you cannot engage the horse. It doesn't affect the game right now.

D. Reports have come about the CLIFF, instead of the HORSE. Maybe you should look at that? "EXAMINE CLIFF"

 

3. That's it. You have to turn around and GO BACK to the pathway with the TREE. Then, you gotta get rid of the TREE. "USE AXE ON THE TREE" or "CHOP TREE WITH AXE"

 

4. Once you get around the TREE STUMP, you will reach another dead end.

a. There are a couple things you can investigate and collect there. ex: "EXAMINE STICKS" or "TAKE ROCK"

b. You will see a pile of dead LEAVES with something shiny inside! Be sure to check them out. "EXAMINE LEAVES"

 

For the Caverns/Tunnels

 

1. Now, you are in a new place, so might as well investigate and take a memento. ex: "EXAMINE ROOTS" or "TAKE LEAF"

a. There are two TUNNELS to explore! Pick one! "EXAMINE TUNNELS" and "GO EAST" or "GO SOUTH"

 

2. The eastern tunnel ends in a strange grotto.

a. Be sure to investigate. ex: "EXAMINE WALLS" or "TAKE LANTERN"

b. There is an ALTAR there, too. Maybe you can OPEN it? "OPEN LID"

c. Go back and check the other tunnel. "GO WEST"

 

3. The south tunnel leads to a cavern full of crystals.

a. Maybe you should investigate and keep one. "EXAMINE CRYSTAL" and "TAKE CRYSTAL"

b. There are two dark tunnels attached to the cavern of crystals, one going SOUTH, and one going EAST.

c. You can explore the those tunnels. "GO EAST" or "GO SOUTH"

d. However, you can't to explore the tunnels without a light source. "EXAMINE INVENTORY" and check if you have the CRYSTAL.

 

For the Spider:

 

1. If you have run away from the SPIDER, then you need to explore some more. Try exploring the other tunnels. "GO <insert direction here>"

a. If you find the LAKE, you should see a SKELETON. Make sure to investigate it. "EXAMINE THE SKELETON" and "TAKE THE BOX" and "TAKE THE SWORD"

b. Don't know what to do with the FUNGUS, though you take a look at the LAKE, and maybe take a swim? "EXAMINE LAKE" and "ENTER LAKE"

c. Now you can go back and face the SPIDER!

 

2. If you are stuck at the SPIDER and you don't know what you have, you should take a look at your stuff. "EXAMINE INVENTORY"

a. Maybe, you should try asking the SPIDER what's wrong. "TALK TO THE SPIDER"

b. If you have the SWORD and you don't like spiders, maybe you should try using the SWORD. "USE SWORD ON THE SPIDER" or "ATTACK SPIDER WITH SWORD"

c. If you've talked to the SPIDER, you'll know what's wrong with it. Maybe you should give it something if you have the BOX. "GIVE BOX TO THE SPIDER"

d. Side note: If you love spiders so much, maybe you should marry it.After talking to the spider, "ASK SPIDER ON A DATE"

 

For the Forest Cave and Forest

 

1. To enter the FOREST from the Forest Cave, you literally have to enter the FOREST. "ENTER FOREST" or "ENTER THE FOREST"

a. But before that, you can investigate the FOREST too! "EXAMINE THE FOREST"

b. There is some stuff lying around. You can look at that stuff as well. ex: "EXAMINE GOLD" or "TAKE GEMS"

 

2. Once you are inside, you should a RIVER and a BRIDGE connecting to a GAME TRAIL.

a. Investigate your surroundings and then follow the RIVER. "FOLLOW THE RIVER"

b. The GAME TRAIL and BRIDGE are new. They will be covered in Day 2 stuff.

 

3. If you follow the river, you'll encounter a friendly WOODSMAN.

a. The prompts here are fairly self-explanatory. You can either help him. "INSIST HE TAKES YOU"

b. OR ditch him. "IGNORE HIM"

 

4. If you ditch him, you'll end up in at an old, abandoned MILL.

a. You investigate the area and go inside. ex: "EXAMINE WATERWHEEL" or "GO INTO MILL"

b. If you check out the mill, try investigating. You may find something. "EXAMINE DESK" and then, "TAKE RECORDS" and "TAKE PAINTING"

c. You can also follow the Path next to the MILL.

 

For the Beaver King

 

1. You will end up following this part of the story regardless if you help or ditch the Woodsman.

 

2. The prompts are fairly self-explanatory. Just follow the capitalized words.

a. Hint: BEAVERS don't know mercy.

b. Hint: Insults to character, insults to moms, and implications of compensation are generally frowned upon.

c: Easter Egg: The painting...THE PAINTING!

 

For the Battlements and the Village

 

1. You can see the GATE. You should make a break for the GATE. "RUN TO THE GATE"

a. It turns out there IS something else you can do; since this dragon is so obsessed with music making, maybe you should give it a taste of your own voice. "SING TO THE DRAGON"

b. THEN, you can make a break for the gate. "GO TO GATE"

 

2. If you didn't scare away the dragon, once you are in the village, the dragon will follow you and try to get you to listen to him.

a. You could give him a taste of his own medicine. "SING TO THE DRAGON"

b. Or you can toughen up the STREAMERS that are on him from crashing into town. "CAST SPELL OF RESILIENCE ON THE STREAMERS"

c. Once the dragons gone, you can go to the cafe! Meet your love! "GO TO CAFE"

 

 

Day 2 Hints

 

Everything is the same for day 2, except there is a new section.

 

For the Forest Detour

 

1. If you made it to the Forest, you will have noticed the BRIDGE extending to the GAME TRAIL on the RIGHT.

a. Take it. "GO RIGHT" or "CROSS BRIDGE"

b. If you follow the RIVER, you may miss this section. I'm not sure.

 

2. You may find yourself in a bit of pickle with a BRAMBLE BUSH

a. There are some items around. Investigate them. ex: "TAKE ACORN" or "TAKE MUSHROOMS"

b. You won't be able to leave until you free yourself from the BUSH. "CUT BUSH WITH SWORD"

c. Make sure to repeat for good measure. "CUT BUSH WITH SWORD" again

d. You can go back to the river now or continue forward. "GO TO RIVER" or "CONTINUE ON PATH"

 

3. If you continue forward, you will run into another dead end with an oak tree.

a. Try investigating and maybe pick up something. ex: "TAKE MOUNTAIN"

b. There isn't much else to do. Head back to the RIVER. "GO BACK"

 

4. I found out when you can assault squirrels! You can assault them when you are stuck in the BRAMBLE BUSH. "THROW ACORNS"

a. Throwing them once calls them; them twice scares them.

b. Once you free yourself from the BUSH, You can also follow the squirrel to the oak tree dead end with the MOUNTAIN of ACORNS. "FOLLOW SQUIRREL"

c. If you didn't scared the squirrel away, you can also engage squirrels. I haven't confirmed this though. "PET SQUIRREL"

 

From then on, the story progresses as is from yesterday.

 

NOTE: If you are stuck in the BRAMBLE BUSH, and tried everything above and cleared your cache, then you can report the problem here.

- Others have had the same issue.

- The BRAMBLE BUSH OF ENTRAPMENT has been reported, and it seems like people are becoming free now.

 

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- Feel free to correct me if any of these are wrong. I'm going from memory. Anyone is free to add more tips.

 

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OTHER TIPS (Highlight for spoilers)

 

1. EXAMINE <insert creature/person/object here> or EXAMINE THE <insert creature/person/object here> ex: EXAMINE THE ROOTS, EXAMINE THE SKELETON

- usually helpful in investigating stuff

- doesn't work on everything

 

2. TAKE <insert object here> or TAKE THE <insert object here> ex: TAKE THE COINS, TAKE THE ARMOR

- you will use this a lot

- you can use it on random things too

- collected items will be added to your inventory EXAMINE INVENTORY

- Can also be used to take paths

 

3. USE (THE) <insert object here> ON (THE) <insert object/person/creature> ex: USE AXE ON TREE

- good for using items

- make sure you indicate what you are aiming at, or it won't work

 

4. GO <insert direction> ex: GO BACK, GO FORWARD, GO UP, GO EAST

- it will help you get around

- it doesn't always work

- it's often situation specific

 

Easter Eggs:

 

TAKE COINS (after taking some already)

EXAMINE COINS (after taking coins)

TAKE TREE

LICK TREE

EAT ROCK

DRINK WATER/DRINK RIVER

USE/PLAY THE FLUTE (x2)

CHOP TREE WITH AXE/USE AXE on TREE (after already cutting down tree)

ATTACK SPIDER WITH SWORD/USE SWORD ON SPIDER (after attacking the spider already)

CUT BUSH WITH SWORD (after you freed yourself)

ATTACK BEAVERS WITH SWORD (at the Beaver Court)

GIVE PAINTING (to Beaver King at the Beaver Court)

ENTER LAKE

TAKE SKELETON (at the lake)

SING TO DRAGON (after dragon leaves)

CAST SPELL OF RESILIENCE ON STREAMERS (after dragon leaves)

 

And that's it for Shokomon's quicky guide. Feel free to modify.

 

 

Other Guides:

1. WoLfgIrLyS' Possible Day 1 Walkthrough

2. LaHaine's List of Actions

3. Raindear's List of Actions

4. Kovia's List of Actions

5. Bugzilla's List of Actions

6. A Possible Day 1 List of Items

7. Shadowfang's Possible Day 1 Walkthrough

8. quack0709's Possible Day 1 List of Items

9. Varekis's Possible Day 1 Walkthrough

10. Arwen17's Possible Day 1 Walkthrough

11. VixenDra's (+VioletWhirlwind's) Possible Day 1 List of Items

12. Alternate Inventory Commands

13. Aurigena's Possible Day 2 Walkthrough

14: HORSE SCENE HELP: THE HORSE DOES SOMETHING!

15. SPIDER SCENE HELP: DATE A SPIDER!

16. BUSH SCENE HELP: BRAMBLE BUSH OF ENTRAPMENT!

17. POSSIBLE ENDING: FRIENDSHIP!

18. POSSIBLE ENDING (Thanks to Starscream): I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CAN "MARRY" A SPIDER!

 

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And that's it for now. If I missed anything, feel free to add it.

 

I will add new day stuff after I actually play the new stuff.

 

Edit: Finished updating the guide! It's not really a quicky guide anymore, but oh well.

Edit2: Adjusting the guide some more.

Edit (2/17): Adding badges and updating guide

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Can we please get the back hooves back? Those frog feet are just really strange on a dragon that is not meant to be a kind of water dragon.

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The adult is lovely. smile.gif

 

We don't have any information on who made it yet, do we?

 

 

(Edit: removed speculation because the spriter wants to stay anonymous, and I was probably wrong anyway.)

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I've just joined the forums but I have to come here and voice my displeasure... you guys will actually understand and NOT think I'm out of my mind for being upset over my pixel dragon children tongue.gif

 

 

Anyway, I'm extremely unhappy with the new sprites compared to the old ones. As a standalone breed, the new sprites wouldn't bother me too much - I probably wouldn't choose to raise them as they're far too sharp and blocky for my taste, and look heavily pixelated as well, but they fit in well with DC.

 

 

On the "I actually like this dragon and would raise it," hand, they fall short. Like, a hundred million points too short. The first set of sprites were what I consider to be beautiful - sleek, non-pixelated, with an air of mystery about them. A pearl? What pearl? Where did it come from? They're so unique looking, you just want to know more about them. That's what I liked about the hatchlings. I was so enamored with them.

 

Magelights are my favorite breed on here, and they have much the same smooth art with a unique feature. Purple flame? Lime green smooth hatchling? I'm in, kid.

 

 

The new sprites are everything that turns me away from raising a dragon on here. Lumpy, pixelated, no air of mystery. They formed a pearl with their magic... okay. And? I don't know, I know it's just personal preference, but I really dislike them. The sad thing is I didn't have a choice in the matter - I was so happy with the other hatchlings and had plans and ideas and... it's such a huge disappointment.

 

They're not even really the same color as the old hatchlings, which was another big turn off for me, and the eyes don't really seem to fit, either, because the blue really stands out on the dark purple.

 

It's no offense to the artist, though... they fit in very well with DC overall, and if they were a regular dragon there'd be no argument from me on their looks. It's the fact that they replaced a dragon I really, really loved the look of that gets me upset about them, if that makes any sense?

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I'll preface this by saying I'm sure the change was due to some situation that cound not be resolved in any other way, and was therefore necessary. I'm amazed that there were new sprites available so fast to be used as replacements. However, I can't help but be disappointed as well.

 

I haven't been a huge fan of the last couple of valentine dragons (nothing against the sprites and artists, they're very well made, just not my personal style) and the new hatchlings finally looked like something I'd love. Especially the s1 was adorable, I'd have gladly made an army of them. The new s1 looks vaguely creepy to me, either I'm misunderstanding something about the sprite or the eye is odd and the overall look is just uninteresting to me. The s2 look dynamic at least, if a bit generic.

 

Thankfully the adult is pretty, albeit not what I envisioned before. The feet seem a bit off, like they don't quite fit in with the rest of the sprite, and on the whole it does look a bit harsh, but I'm sure some things could be tweaked later on. It's definitely not that bad on such short notice.

 

Oh well, I shall miss the s1 (and remain eternally curious about this whole thing).

 

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WTFreakinHell is this??!!! :/

WHY TJ, WHY...

Worst sprite update ever, much worse than the Nilia pygmies(and Nilias were at least replaced into a set from the same artist)...

this is a joke, it just must be... I want my pro-quality sprites back on my scroll and in the game sad.gif

And I believe the original adults were also better? (The current don't look uigly but, well, it's not the standard the cave was heading at for quite a while already... a bit of a drawback, they don't look so smooth even compared the original hatchlings) Did anyone have a chance to see them?

 

TJ, I believe the palyer base deserves a good explaination for this, what you've given is a joke in this particular situation...

This time I feel so cheated I cannot even... The new set, I'm sorry, but doesn't even compare to the original:/ What could possibly be a VALID reason for this to happen, really??? If you release sth you shouldn't take it away like this... it's just... aghh I need an even longer break:/

I sincerely doubt TJ was just minding his own business and went 'huh, the cave is too quiet today, we could use some more drama.' Presumably there was some crippling conflict of interest, violation of the artist's agreement, something that made replacing the sprites the only choice.

 

I'm not particularly thrilled about the change, but god this community gets so entitled at times... A joke? Really? I'm sure whoever scrambled to make the new set will love to hear that their work in making the best of a bad situation is a 'joke.'

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Oh my. This is not good. Not good at all.

 

I really, really think there should be some sort of explanation for this. We should not have been given the hatchlings in the first place if they were already working to replace them. They look horrible now, and I'm sorry but that is my opinion.

 

The new s1 hatchie is very smooshed, it looks like there are walls pushing onto it on either side of it. You can barely see the antlers on the s1 *or* the s2, and the pearl now gets lost in the hoof/foot. I can barely see it. The s1 and s2 hatchies *look* very, very rushed, and frankly not up to DC standards.

 

The adult's description still says the pearl is on their antlers, even though it most obviously is not. The adult, too, looks frustratingly rushed. I don't like the way the neck looks and the body looks very awkward to me.

 

I'm very, very disappointed in this sudden change.

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WTFreakinHell is this??!!! :/

WHY TJ, WHY...

Worst sprite update ever, much worse than the Nilia pygmies(and Nilias were at least replaced into a set from the same artist)...

this is a joke, it just must be... I want my pro-quality sprites back on my scroll and in the game sad.gif

And I believe the original adults were also better? (The current don't look uigly but, well, it's not the standard the cave was heading at for quite a while already... a bit of a drawback, they don't look so smooth even compared the original hatchlings) Did anyone have a chance to see them?

 

TJ, I believe the palyer base deserves a good explaination for this, what you've given is a joke in this particular situation...

This time I feel so cheated I cannot even... The new set, I'm sorry, but doesn't even compare to the original:/ What could possibly be a VALID reason for this to happen, really??? If you release sth you shouldn't take it away like this... it's just... aghh I need an even longer break:/

Can we please not have posts like this ? TJ would not have done this without a very good reason, and one that is probably none of our business. I am guessing something copyright-ish - and if that';s the case, it is between him and the artists. We have a lovely new dragon, and while the S1 hatchie is a little odd, it is far from ugly.

 

More to the point - think before you post, people - how would you feel if you had been one of the artists who came forward to sort this situation out ? If these sprites are really the work of two days - they are a freaking miracle. Especially the adult.

 

It's fairly obvious that something big happened and that it is simply not going to be possible to have the original sprites back. Can we move on from that and enjoy the ones we have ? There is no point banging on about something we can't have. TJ does some very odd things at times - but I am certain sure that this was one case where he had no choice.

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Omg okay I'm not going crazy and the s1 sprites did change!?

 

I liked the first ones better too =/ these look too dissimilar from the s2 dragons now

 

Edit: oh darn I'm really behind, the whole set changed o.o i can see all the reasons such a chance world have to be implemented, but being so vague and keeping people in the dark is only going to instigate further drama. If it was a case of withdrawn permissions or something, say so?

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"shut up about things you can't change, don't ever complain, how dare you not like things"

 

Now I remember why I left this hellsite for two years...

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I sincerely doubt TJ was just minding his own business and went 'huh, the cave is too quiet today, we could use some more drama.' Presumably there was some crippling conflict of interest, violation of the artist's agreement, something that made replacing the sprites the only choice.

 

I'm not particularly thrilled about the change, but god this community gets so entitled at times... A joke? Really? I'm sure whoever scrambled to make the new set will love to hear that their work in making the best of a bad situation is a 'joke.'

But who ever made the new sprites did not seem to even look at how the dragon looked before :/

Its not just new sprites its a completely new dragon that just shares a color scheme and that is just Not Ok! :/

 

They had more fluff and hooves and the description says the pearl was between their antlers and they had a more slender body. Now they have less fluff a scalie chest, no hoofs, pearl is in their hands now instead on antlers and they have a balky big body instead of the slender look they should have.

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