Precognition: How useful will it be?

[BatCheva]

I just noticed that the Aeon dragons have a BSA of Precognition that will let them know the gender of any egg or hatchie.

 

Given that Pink can influence how useful do you think this will be?

[Jazeki]

I think it's useful enough to decide whether or not you need to use a pink or not. Birdz said that we can still influence and still use this BSA after influencing. So, it's good to see if an influence worked as well.

[BatCheva]

I think it's useful enough to decide whether or not you need to use a pink or not. Birdz said that we can still influence and still use this BSA after influencing. So, it's good to see if an influence worked as well.

Okay, I can see that.

[purplehaze]

I probably won't use it much because I have a large number of Pink dragons, so no shortage of influence.

 

With that said, though, I have used it once so far. I picked up a hatchling in a trade that had not been influenced. I wanted to know what gender it was so that I could influence the egg I intended to be its mate. If I had waited until the hatchie gendered it might have been too late to influence the egg.

[Tango]

I'm using it for my frozen hatchlings. I feel like the more I use pinks influence, the higher chance it will fail at some point - probably when I need it most. So I don't want to influence eggs that aren't important, when I can just precognition and pick up another if necessary. (Yes this is paranoid, it makes sense to my delusional brain)

[Obscure_Trash]

I have more than enough pinks that I never run out of influence, but I do think it'll be useful when I gift people. If the gender is gonna match the lineage, they won't have to use an influence or I can know to influence and hatch before gifting it, in case the giftee doesn't have enough pinks.

 

EDIT: "I gifting" smh

Edited September 1, 2016 by SockPuppet Strangler

[BatCheva]

All very good points that I had not considered because I am pants at trading.

 

I can see how it's very useful indeed so I better get cracking on getting more Aeon's.

[Toyo]

I would find it mega-helpful if I were trading for an expensive hatchling, like a 2g prize or kin or something. It would be better than a "proof of influence," since sometimes those fail at extremely inconvenient times

[CitrusFlavours]

Honestly, I find it super useful, as someone having a relatively new scroll.

 

I only have three Pinks (two male, one female), so using Precognition means I know when I can save my Pinks, or if I need to influence it myself. That way, it cuts down on the uncertainty of what the egg will turn out to be in-between cool-downs of my Pinks.

 

So yeah, pretty nice for new-ish players with limited pinks resources.

[Confused Cat]

I've been sort of inattentive the last few days and I just realized I didn't influence my third CB Dark Lumina (which hatched a few hours ago). Precognition was exactly what I needed to find out how to influence the fourth one.

[andromedae]

As someone who does not yet have as many pinks (around 16), it's a useful BSA to save myself an influence. Also, as others have mentioned, knowing the gender of an uninfluenced hatchling makes precog a pretty nifty tool.

[DuskOfTheStars]

Yup yup. This will help out my ND experiments sooo much. Now I will be able to IOU gendered NDs without having to worry that the one I made will gender wrong (if I ever do that). Plus like other people said, it could save you an influence or help you set up a mate for a 2-3G Shimmer/Tinsel. Or an arrow.

Edited September 1, 2016 by Dusky_Flareon

[SheridanCharon]

Extremely useful.

 

I have a relatively good number of pinks, but roughly two thirds of them are female and I run out of male influences really easily, especially during new releases or events, so knowing what gender an egg will be means I can save those influences for when I need them most.

[Amazon_warrior]

I've used it on low-time AP eggs I couldn't influence, to see if they were going to be the "right" gender for my needs. It's a nice feature!

[Natevaelle]

My understanding is that the Influence BSA increases the chance that an egg will be the gender of the influencer but does not guarantee it. Although the chance of the Influence BSA to fail seems very low, I still like to be completely certain of what the gender of a dragon will be. The Precognition BSA gives me the assurance. (Two days ago, I applied Precognition to an egg, applied Influence, and applied Precognition again. Well now, I am 100% certain that the dragon will be male.)

[cyradis4]

Influence CAN fail, but here's the kicker: if you influence THEN use PreCog, it will tell you if said influence failed.

 

If you use it on the egg after influence.... then if it failed you can bounce the egg to someone else and try again!

 

At least that's what I intend to do. I haven't confirmed yet that if you use influence - Precog - bounce egg - that you can re-Precog, but seeing as how I was able to use Precog, then use Influence, then Precog again.... I think you can.

 

Basically, I'll be using PreCog on anything important to double check genders before they hatch. And for any ungendered Trade hatchie (provide a screen cap of the PreCog's message).

 

Cheers!

C4.

[Sinion Kabe]

Influence CAN fail, but here's the kicker: if you influence THEN use PreCog, it will tell you if said influence failed.

 

If you use it on the egg after influence.... then if it failed you can bounce the egg to someone else and try again!

 

At least that's what I intend to do. I haven't confirmed yet that if you use influence - Precog - bounce egg - that you can re-Precog, but seeing as how I was able to use Precog, then use Influence, then Precog again.... I think you can.

I like your style, cyradis. I will have to try this technique if I ever need to Influence something of great importance, like a 2G Spriter Alt egg or 2G Prize egg.

[silver_tiger]

I intend to use it a lot! Both for my frozen hatchie goals and my adult dragon goals. Between the two of those things I tend to run out of influences, so if I ever need to save them it would be good to see what dragons really need to be influenced. It's also really nice to check to see if an important dragon is going to buck influence! I'm fairly certain none of my dragons have ever actually done that, but you know. It happens.

[Ribombee]

It will be great proof of gender for hatchie S1 trades, too! I've often passed up S1 hatchie trades because I was worried they wouldn't be what I needed, but now people could post or PM the screen shot of precog.

[Suzumiya]

I have a ton of pinks, but sometimes I do get really busy with real life stuff, especially now that school has started again, and forget to influence. It's really useful in telling me what gender my un-influenced hatchie is going to be, so I can start trying to trade him/her for the gender I want earlier, with proof that it will be the other gender. Also, great for when I'm trading a 3G prize and forgot to influence him/her. I can let the person who wants it know if it will be the correct gender, and if it won't, I can offer to breed another later and just let them have the wrong-gender one anyway. I love it. Very helpful and fun.

 

Also, I do NOT have a lot of MALE pinks, so it's nice to use it on an egg to see if I need to influence it or if it's going to end up male anyway.

[Amaterasu-sama]

I find it very useful in two cases

1) Getting ungendered hatchie in trade and determining gender

2) determining gender of egg/hatchie for new releases because instead of influencing everything I let gender roulette play out at first then trade for gender swaps to deal with uneven numbers.

 

It would also be useful to check if influence is needed or not, and like you said a person would not particularly see it as useful if they have plenty of pinks. But believe it or not, I actually use precog more than pinks even though I have more than enough pinks because I just get really lazy with using influence.

 

And finally when I have a really important egg, I want to check with precog after influence to be 100% certain it is correct gender.

 

So over all this BSA has proved its mantle for me.

 

 

Only draw back is that the results are not recorded anywhere so sometimes I have to waste multiple BSA on same egg because I forgot past result. I would really like to see this resolved somehow.

Edited September 2, 2016 by Amaterasu-sama

[Syiren]

I find it extremely useful. It'll help in determining whether to use a pink's BSA or not and it'll make planning and building lineages that much easier. I think this'll become my new fav BSA next to reds.

[Amaterasu-sama]

How do we know if the egg's gender won't change if the breeds change, though?

I mean there's a high possibility that it /won't/ but it's still something I'd consider c:

I suppose you can find out ND gender /after/ it turns instead of having to wait for it to gender so it still saves time and gives bigger window for trading, combined with stun. Although I see no correlation between breed and gender, so it shouldn't likely matter either way. One of the ND enthusiasts will have to take this up and report back to community what happens.

 

BTW I think when you use precog on an unbreedable/unknown gender, it says the breed is not eligible or something. One of my friends tried it on cheese and it didn't work.

 

 

[DuskOfTheStars]

I suppose you can find out ND gender /after/ it turns instead of having to wait for it to gender so it still saves time and gives bigger window for trading, combined with stun. Although I see no correlation between breed and gender, so it shouldn't likely matter either way. One of the ND enthusiasts will have to take this up and report back to community what happens.

 

BTW I think when you use precog on an unbreedable/unknown gender, it says the breed is not eligible or something. One of my friends tried it on cheese and it didn't work.

Can do. I do my BSA stuff beforehand anyways.

 

But yes, Precognition will be a massive help. The limited pinks issue that others point out also applies to my scroll, so I like being able to save Influences for eggs needing them.

[Natayah]

I have to agree with the already above mentioned things especially (for me) when it comes to Trades (and I'll add Gifting/Raffle Prizes). There are some things I breed for gifts, donations, and/or trades that I just cannot easily replace. There aren't many, but there are a few of them. This makes things so much easier. And there have been many dragons that have "hatched" as ungendered s1 hatchlings that I avoid on trades cuz I need a specific gender. Now I can just contact the person and have them let me know.

 

Also, I have had a few times where some of my donations for forum giveaways, events, games (like raffles and such) caused me to end up holding an egg longer than I expected. Or I just timed it poorly. And when I gift things I like to be able to say "If it doesn't gender correctly I will replace it." But with some dragons, we just can't make that promise. Now, if I'm not certain, I can Precog the egg, and it doesn't matter if I let it sit on my scroll and if I have to hatch it. I know. And then if I have to influence, and that influence doesn't take, I know. This is such a gift to gifters who want to gift nice things but don't want to gift something that when, because it genders incorrectly, causes the entire gift to almost be useless. What a great Boon. I would hate to give or receive something fantastically wonderful and because an egg wants to be a spanker, decides it's gonna gender otherwise. It just ruins it and a replacement isn't always possible. It ruins it for both parties. Now that is over. Soooo much more happiness!