Posted November 12, 2016 Aurax (Golden moon) Waxing gibbous Cirion (Blue moon) Waxing gibbous Bred at 08:59 PM EST Lumina x Silver Shimmerscale Literally just found out about these when I went to breed my shimmerscale and I was so confused on what egg I had just bred. Figured I'd add to the data. :] Share this post Link to post
Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) For my own notes until I get the sheet update: Spotted: XLDQO - Lumina - 11/12/2016 - 4:09 PM - Alpine - A: Waxing Gibbous - C: Waxing Gibbous O5DS9 - Lumina - 11/12/2016 - 4:30 PM - Alpine - A: Waxing Gibbous - C: Waxing Gibbous (Codes changed to protect eggs.) Edit: Adding eggs. Edited November 12, 2016 by Shokomon Share this post Link to post
Posted November 12, 2016 I bred 5 pairs today. Got mate's breed of both mixed pairs. One light pair gave dark egg, one dark pair gave light egg, one dark pair gave dark egg. I have put all on spreadsheet. Share this post Link to post
Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) Dustpuppy, I've observed breeding go all dark on days when the cave is producing both. It's why I think we really should rely on cave data, even though it's harder to gather. (the posts above for the same moon status illustrate this. A total of 3 darks and 1 light bred when the cave, based on my own observations, is clearly producing a majority of light luminas) Aurax (Golden moon) Waxing gibbous Cirion (Blue moon) Waxing gibbous rxjbj - Light in Forest @ 7:19pm kzfmg - Dark in Desert @ 7:20pm qiduo - Light in Alpine @ 7:30pm h51nf - Light in Desert @ 8:50pm sdtzg - Light in Volcano @ 9:07pm s0dr1 - Light in Alpine @ 2:41am (still the same moons) lnwsi - Light in Alpine @ 8:11pm I'm not finding any more, but I'll edit if I do. Edited November 14, 2016 by Pokemonfan13 Share this post Link to post
Posted November 16, 2016 Back for another go! Got my friend BSD to participate this time, too. Got one no-egg result, one off-breed result, and one normal Lumina. Time of Day It is night. The sun is setting. Season Fall Moon Phases Aurax (Golden moon) Waning gibbous Cirion (Blue moon) Waning gibbous M Lumina x F Golden Wyvern = Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/RE3Zb --- OK, now for mine again... No Egg: 9 Off Breed: 3 F Lumina x M Silver = Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/0HXH4 F Lumina x M Alt Black = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/llyCE M Lumina x F Albino = Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/hZpft F Lumina x M Guardian = Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/Vadol F Lumina x M Albino = Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/C4efu Wow, very unproductive this time. But of the few Lumina eggs produced, all but one were the Light type. Share this post Link to post
Posted November 19, 2016 Just bred my Dark Luminae. Time of Day: It is night. Season: Fall Aurax (Golden moon): Waning gibbous Cirion (Blue moon): Waning crescent Out of 8 pairings, I got 1 refusal, 1 no interest, 1 off-breed and 5 Dark Luminae. Also, when I was cave hunting yesterday I noticed quiet a few Dark Luminae I would think throughout the day and probably no Light Luminae. Share this post Link to post
Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) I saw at least two in the cave last night, but did not get the codes. Sorry. And my breeding has yielded nothing but Darks this week. Edited November 22, 2016 by purplehaze Share this post Link to post
Posted November 22, 2016 Would someone please add this data to the sheet? Just cought a Dark Lumina in Volcano. https://dragcave.net/lineage/59tlu Time of Day: It is day. Season: Fall Aurax (Golden moon): Waning gibbous Cirion (Blue moon): Waning crescent Nov 22, 2016, 02:59 pm Share this post Link to post
Posted November 23, 2016 Just took a Dark Lumina from the Jungle. Also, about to begin another breeding cycle. Time of Day It is night. Season Fall Moon Phases Aurax (Golden moon) Waning crescent Cirion (Blue moon) New No Egg: 2 Off Breed: 1 Refusal: 1 (Dark Lumina x normal Lumina, lol) Lumina F x Silver M = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/Hor3f Lumina M x Red F = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/buVs4 Lumina F x Falconiform M = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/agMra Lumina F x Bronze Tinsel M = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/pHTou Lumina F x Guardian M = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/7CkvS Lumina F x Albino M = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/svXLN Lumina M x Tsunami Wyvern F = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/m8woO Lumina M x Almandine Pyralspite F = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/XxXO5 Lumina F x Aria M = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/83jIi Lumina F x Antarean M = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/IEMLx Lumina F x Silver M = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/59QRc Dark Lumina M x Witchlight F = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/aNg1E (Also, I WANT this egg! Its code is great! Will reward anyone who catches it from the AP and is willing to trade it to me!) Dark Lumina M x Black F = Dark Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/MWxfC Results: All non-off-breed eggs were Dark Luminas and almost all pairs produced an egg this time. Share this post Link to post
Posted November 23, 2016 At the 5 minute drop I just saw 4 Dark Lumina, 2 in Alpine (xeCKF, g3zwx), 1 in Coast (JX909) and 1 in Jungle (8TLcv). Time of Day: It is day. Season: Fall Aurax (Golden moon): Waning crescent Cirion (Blue moon): New Haven't added them to the sheet 'cause I really need to go to bed... Share this post Link to post
Posted November 24, 2016 I can't believe Dark Lumina's breeding system is still unconfirmed, I swear the only dragon to have held out longer than this is the ND Are there any leading theories with all the data collected? Has anyone spoken to Corteo to confirm or deny these theories? Share this post Link to post
Posted November 24, 2016 I just saw a Dark Lumina in the Volcano, I'm trying to collect other things so I haven't grabbed it. (9s4ab) Maybe once the breeding pattern for these guys is figured out, I'll like them better Also, question; are these guys considered common or uncommon? Share this post Link to post
Posted November 25, 2016 Anyone else then me must add this to the spreadsheet. Time of Day: It is day. The sun is rising. Season: Fall Aurax (Golden moon): Waning crescent Cirion (Blue moon): Waxing crescent Bred this Dark Lumina and i was hoping for a Dark Lumina.^^ https://dragcave.net/lineage/Qz34Y Action log: Nov 25, 2016, 10:15 am Share this post Link to post
Posted November 30, 2016 I'm so sorry. I haven't been keeping up with this at all. I've been so busy recently. Share this post Link to post
Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Time of Day It is night. The sun is setting. Season Fall Moon Phases Aurax (Golden moon) New Cirion (Blue moon) Full I'm starting to get a hypothesis going. If it's correct, I should see either a lot of normal Luminas or a roughly 50/50 mix. Here goes... No Egg: 18 Off Breed: 1 OK, well... I guess I've been breeding them too often. The first five all made no egg. In fact, I'm calling tonight's batch inconclusive because of how few actually made an egg. Bronze Tinsel m x Lumina f = Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/wSDVl Dark Lumina m x Cronos Xenowyrm f = Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/2xyuf Edited December 1, 2016 by Lurhstaap Share this post Link to post
Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) i don't know if this is worth reporting but, like Lurhstaap, i got mostly nothing. in fact, out of 18 breeding attempts, i didn't get a single egg. just for the record: Time of Day It is night Season Fall Moon Phases Aurax (Golden moon) New Cirion (Blue moon) Full Edited December 1, 2016 by miaou Share this post Link to post
Posted December 1, 2016 There's a Light Lumina in the cave, "dyvwa" (caps messed) Share this post Link to post
Posted December 3, 2016 Wow, we still don't know? Damn, it must be pretty complicated givenyou how fastto we cracked theme Heralds. Okay, gonna breed my CB Luminae, will report, but I won't add to the spreadsheet since I use my phone. M.Lumina x f.Mageia = Light Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/tbXn8 M.Lumina x f.Aeon = Aeon (probably my fault since Aeon ratios are still pretty jacked) https://dragcave.net/lineage/jc6Ax F.Lumina x m.Blacktip = Blacktip https://dragcave.net/lineage/BekTw F.Dark Lumina x m.Albino = Albino https://dragcave.net/lineage/6W2nY F.Dark Lumina x m.Rainbow Copper = no egg M.Dark Lumina x f.Aria = Aria https://dragcave.net/lineage/n0ju8 F.Dark Lumina x m.Black Tea = Black Tea https://dragcave.net/lineage/XULF3 F.Dark Lumina x m.Blusang = refusal (I think we can discount this since refusals are universal) F.Dark Lumina x Pacified Aegis = Light Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/6XSgN F.Dark Lumina x m.Frill = no interest M.Dark Lumina x f.Witchlight = Light Lumina https://dragcave.net/lineage/VOGHW So I find it weird that aside from holidays only the Xenowyrm gave a Lumina egg at all, but the majority of thise bred were D.Lumina and all were L.Lumina eggs. It is night, the sun is setting It is fall Aurax = waxing cresent Cirion = waning gibbous Breeding took ten to fifteen minutes, and concluded at five to ten past seven pm cave time Share this post Link to post
Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) I just bred a dark lumina through an Albino (CB male) and a Light Lumina (Messy Lineaged Female). I was actually hoping for an albino to experiment creating a neggie. Time of day: It is Day (12:56pm EST) Season: Fall Aurax (Golden Moon): Waxing crescent Cirion (Blue Moon): Waning gibbous https://dragcave.net/lineage/8mWFu Edited December 4, 2016 by kyleedj Share this post Link to post
Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Wow, still nothing? Well, I've bred 27 Luminae just now. Feel free to add my results to the spreadsheet. Lumina x Kingcrowne: Kingcrowne DL x Bleeding Moon: DL DL x White: no egg DL x White: DL DL x Magma: DL DL x LL: DL DL x Lunar Herald, blue: DL Pyro Xeno x DL: refusal Bleeding Moon x DL: BM DL x Undine: DL LL x Black tea: no egg LL x Silver: DL LL x Xeno(Mageia): DL LL x Yellow Undine: LL!!! LL x Xeno (Mageia): no egg Llx Sunsong Amphiptere: DL LL x Yeno Mageia: DL LL x Xeno Mageia: no egg LL x Xeno Mageia: Xeno Pyro LL x Xeno Mageia: LL! LL x Yellow Undine: DL LL x Horse: no egg LL x Horse: no interest LL x Coastal Waverunner: CW egg LL x Swallowtail: SWT egg LL x Anagallis: Anagallis egg Time of Day It is day. (I bred them around 1:30 pm) Season Fall Moon Phases Aurax (Golden moon) Waxing crescent Cirion (Blue moon) Waning gibbous I underlined the Light Luminae eggs, as they are obviously the rarer variety. Edited December 5, 2016 by Fly-by-Night Share this post Link to post
Posted December 4, 2016 OK, I've got enough of a hypothesis going to ask for falsifying data. This concerns BRED eggs only, as it's easier to diagnose focusing on just them rather than trying to pay attention to CB patterns at the same time. Once the breeding pattern is understood we can test it and see if it applies to the CBs or not. So! Please, everyone, try to DISPROVE the following contentions: - It has to do with the moons, I believe. - Firstly, it could be controlled by overall moon brightness. Secondly, it could be controlled by the waxing/waning cycle. Thirdly, it could be both at once. - If the first case is true, then we should observe that the brighter the combined moons are, the more we see Light Luminas, and vise versa. If -both- moons are bright (Gibbous or Full), then we should breed/find only normal Luminas. If one moon is bright and the other dim (Crescent or New), then we should find a mix of both, possibly favoring normal Luminas if one of the moons is actually full and the other is crescent (in short, still a relatively bright sky). If both moons are dim (Crescent or New), then we should find only Dark Luminas. So far, I have noticed a loose version of this pattern, but I haven't looked over the entire thread to see if there are any eggs that flatly disprove it (for example, a normal Lumina bred when -both- moons were Crescent or New, or a Dark Lumina bred when both moons were Gibbous or Full.) Any such dragon would disprove this version of the hypothesis. - If the waxing/waning cycle is the controlling factor, then we would expect to see normal Luminas more when one or both moons are waxing (meaning getting brighter), and Dark Luminas more when one or both moons is waning (that is, getting dimmer). I haven't paid close attention to this, but it is a possibility. To falsify this, you'd need to produce a Dark Lumina bred when both moons were waxing or a normal Lumina bred when both moons are waning. - Finally, it's possible that both are taken into account, producing a very complex system that would be difficult to piece out. For example, let's say hypothetically that Aurax is Waxing Gibbous and Cirion is Waning Crescent. With one moon both waxing and in a bright phase, and the other both waning and in a dim phase, this averages out to mean 50/50 lights and darks. Share this post Link to post
Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) I don't see any reason to throw out CB data, especially since breeding seems to still be weighted towards dark luminas. (My personal preference is to throw out bred data) As far as I'm concerned, this is going to be solved by graphs. I agree that the moons are a very likely candidate, but I think the cycle will probably become very obvious with enough data. There's a problem with your theory #1, though. Your disproof scenario for a combination of both moons will be impossible if the real answer is that the phases of only one of the moons control lumina production, since you want the controlling moon to be in the incorrect phase to produce your proof. Although if this is the case, the graphs will make the difference crystal clear. Edited December 5, 2016 by Pokemonfan13 Share this post Link to post
Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) sighting in the coast: dark lumina coded y4hlk (caps messed) night, fall, Aurax Waxing crescent, Cirion Waning crescent 4 more Dark Luminae: jcjmn (Alpine), nlvxo (Coast), nsqlo and lbnku (Volcano) day, fall, Aurax Waxing crescent, Cirion Waning crescent Edited December 5, 2016 by Ruby Eyes Share this post Link to post
Posted December 5, 2016 I have looked at data about CBs and there are things that can be said: - when Cirion is New - light Luminas don't appear, there are only dark ones in biomes - when Cirion is Waxing Gibbous and Aurax is Waning Crescent - dark luminas don't appear, but light ones do - when Aurax is New (and Cirion is Full) - Luminas (both light and dark) don't appear Or certain cases weren't added to the sheet. There is one light Lumina seen when Cirion is New (number 513), but I've checked its code and found CB Sunrise dragon instead (added lineage link to the sheet as a proof). It's difficult to say something that specific about other phases as the significant part of data still comes from period just after release. Share this post Link to post
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