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PHASE CHANGE!!!! AURAX is WAXING CRESCENT and CIRION is WANING GIBBOUS!!!!

Aaaaaand....eggs are still blue.

- New Moons (for Aurax) and Full Moons (for Cirion) officially last 24 hours!

- Please tell me if I missed anything!

- Document Updated!

 

A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS:

(For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates)

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- We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons!

- Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon) and Cirion (Blue Moon) are still in the WaXing Crescent and WaNing Gibbous phases respectively.

- Everyone is still catching Blue/Indigo eggs in the Cave! No change in color!

- We have Adult dragons, and we are breeding Blue/Indigo Lunar eggs. No change in color!

- The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.)

- So far, Gold, Bronze, and Blue/Indigo eggs have dropped in the Cave! Bronze and Blue/Indigo eggs have been bred.

 

- Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post.

- As of Sept 05, 2015 @ ~9:00PM, Indigo Lunar eggs began dropping en masse! Go and grab them!!!

 

- No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when.

- That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself.

- There is a possibility that the release started in the middle of the Waning Gibbous phase for Aurax and Waning Crescent phase for Cirion.

 

- IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post.

- This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under.

 

- The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Cycle Post taken and modified from TJ's post)

 

--- Based on current data, it seems that Cirion's phases change faster than Aurax's.

----- Aurax takes 8 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon.

----- Cirion takes 4 days to move from WaXing Gibbous to Full Moon.

----- Aurax's New Moon is 24 hours long.

----- Cirion's Full Moon is 24 hours long. New Moon Phase is unconfirmed to be 24 hours long.

 

Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC.

Aurax: Waning Gibbous

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent*

Cirion: New*

CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze.

- The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours.

* = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too.

 

Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 05, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent**

Cirion: Waxing Crescent**

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

** Exact time of change Unknown.

 

Sep 05, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 05, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 09, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 09, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 10, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waxing Crescent

Cirion: Waning Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

[Edited by Shokomon]

- Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change.

- We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon.

 

- There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases.

2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases.

3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors.

4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion.

5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors.

6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up.

- Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate.

- The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6.

- The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2 and 6.

 

- There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases.

2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases.

3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at  most a week.

- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on.

- As of the most recent change and TJ's correctional post, the moons' phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2.

 

- LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults.

- TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size.

--- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.)

- LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers.

- LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion.

- LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults!

- LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the Bronze avatar once we start getting adults.

--- She has given us the Bronze Herald Avatar!

- LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeed have metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty.

- LadyLyzar does not call the "blue" Lunar eggs "Indigos;" She just states that the "blues" are indigo in color as indigo is her favorite color, which makes sense as the "blue" lunar was meant to be her Alt. She later has reaffirmed this, stating that there is no official name for the "blue" Lunars and that they really are just indigo in color as they were to be her alt were these dragons to be chosen as prize dragons.

-LadyLyzar states that the element for the Lunar Heralds had not been planned out, and that she would put them as "Light" element.

- LadyLyzar states that the Lunar Heralds were retooled after the Shimmers were chosen for prizes, and while the moon phases work a little different than she expected, it's not complicated, and we will figure it out eventually. She won't tell us anything about the mechanic though.

 

- The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced.

- To this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune.

 

Threads!

- Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming

- DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories

 

Documents!

- DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking

 

And, I think that's it for the summary.

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Very long blue drop o.o I wonder is the silver drop will be shorter like the bronze drop and if the gold drop will be as long as the the blue drop.

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*Pulls out cane*

 

Back in my day we had to wait a full year (going uphill both ways) to get all the seasonals when they first released (and as was reminded to me that summers didn't even get a full three months of release), now people get antsy about a couple days/weeks on these new fangled (but pretty!) dragons tongue.gif

HA!! In MY day, we didn't even have seasonals. We had to take a correctly seasonal colored dragon and pretend it was seasonal.

 

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All I want now is an Alpine blue so I can freeze it when it hatches.

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Ahh, my first indigo grew up! So beautiful! wub.gif

Same here! I absolutely love the indigo color! biggrin.gifwub.gif

Although, I'm also really looking forward to the Silvers xd.png

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My Blues start growing up tomorrow afternoon.

 

And the rest of my Bronze grow up later tonight.

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HA!! In MY day, we didn't even have seasonals. We had to take a correctly seasonal colored dragon and pretend it was seasonal.

 

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*whips out cane and empty whiskey bottle* Back in myyyyy day, the only seasonal dragon we had were Storm Dragons, as they were the only original species remotely based on anything weather-related. And they were called Grays!!! *waves cane around at all the young'ins*

 

Seriously though, this extended period of blue Lunars has really thrown me off. And I'm really on the fence as to whether I like them or not. Mostly because I can't start the breeding plan I had in mind until silvers drop >__< Might have to come up with a new plan in the meantime. Likewise, the change has also made it much more difficult to give out accurate predictions- it's kinda all coming down to speculation and assumptions which is a bit nerve wrecking.

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*whips out cane and empty whiskey bottle* Back in myyyyy day, the only seasonal dragon we had were Storm Dragons, as they were the only original species remotely based on anything weather-related. And they were called Grays!!! *waves cane around at all the young'ins*

 

Seriously though, this extended period of blue Lunars has really thrown me off. And I'm really on the fence as to whether I like them or not. Mostly because I can't start the breeding plan I had in mind until silvers drop >__< Might have to come up with a new plan in the meantime. Likewise, the change has also made it much more difficult to give out accurate predictions- it's kinda all coming down to speculation and assumptions which is a bit nerve wrecking.

Y'all are hilarious lololol

(Hi LadyLyzar, having fun with our guestimates and reminiscing xd.png?)

 

@Wahya you right, the AP is indeed that currently

 

EDIT: OOO yay thank you!!! (Yours does look gorgeous though cx)

Edited by moonstone981

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Now that users are getting adult Indigos, here is the Indigo animated avatar.

 

As before, if you want to use it, please save it to your computer and upload it using the forum's avatar settings.

 

user posted image

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Now that users are getting adult Indigos, here is the Indigo animated avatar.

 

As before, if you want to use it, please save it to your computer and upload it using the forum's avatar settings.

 

user posted image

Why does yours look green to me?

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I've been playing around with the colors every now and then. Hence my member title. wink.gif

 

It was a black one before the green one.

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I've been playing around with the colors every now and then.  Hence my member title.  wink.gif

 

It was a black one before the green one.

They're all so pretty though dang ;-;

 

EDIT: Whooo we hit 250 pages lol

Edited by moonstone981

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I've been playing around with the colors every now and then.  Hence my member title.  wink.gif

 

It was a black one before the green one.

The wiki has been following your avatars very closely wink.gif Love this green one!

 

(For those curious in seeing the other colours of Heralds used as avatars, view them here. Keep in mind these are not the free to use as your own ones unless you get permission from LadyLyz!)

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LadyL, if you're taking requests for your avatar's colours, may I ask for a red/pink one?

 

Also, I hope the silver ones don't drop for another two days, since I just got impatient and bred seven new Cassares for my PB lineage projects.

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I've been playing around with the colors every now and then. Hence my member title. wink.gif

 

It was a black one before the green one.

If there was a rainbow one we would all die for it. These are amazing, though! I think a baby-blue one would look gorgeous.

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Now that users are getting adult Indigos, here is the Indigo animated avatar.

 

As before, if you want to use it, please save it to your computer and upload it using the forum's avatar settings.

 

user posted image

Before I saw the emerald one, the indigo was my favorite. Now I love the emerald, and it will be my "dream dragon" and the indigo will just have to be my favorite in cave dragon.

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Heh, for my own sake, I really hope the Silvers either arrive tomorrow or wait a week... I've got out-of-state friends coming in, and I really don't want to be spending time on the computer trying to catch while they're here. XD

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Heh, for my own sake, I really hope the Silvers either arrive tomorrow or wait a week... I've got out-of-state friends coming in, and I really don't want to be spending time on the computer trying to catch while they're here. xd.png

XDDD NICE

 

One thing I've notised, and I'm not sure if it's because people are spending more time on the AP/biomes for the blues or not, but up until a few days ago, adding my scroll to just one click-site was sufficient to get my drags where they needed to be (i.e. hatched eggs, mature hatchies) in a matter of hours, but today I added my scroll to four click-sites (and counting, though I don't want to add it to any more because I don't like the idea of adding my scroll to so many blurgh) and it's been over "a matter of hours", and there has been no large progress, probably indicating that not a lot of people are viewing (personally I just leave them on auto-refresh tabs). Idk if it's because more users are spending time in-cave or what, but this has only been present the past day or so haha

I just found it interesting (dang why is this so long

 

EDIT: just popped onto the AP before packing my backpack for tomorrow morning, and it's mainly Moonstones, Purple Dorsals, Harvests, Luminas and Bleeding Moons, with a few Brims and Blacktips

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Yay, I caught a gaia! I figured I'd stick to the non-lunar biomes, since they're emptier. wink.gif Would have gotten a red dino too, if I wasn't overburdened.

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Man my internet has been going so slow today. I thought waiting 8 seconds for a page to load was bad. Now i can end up waiting 15 seconds. So glad silvers aren't dropping yet. So so glad.

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