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Yeeeah but even those scheduled releases aren't that predictable- it's not always the same time or the same day tongue.gif

 

So the volcano and desert are still dropping Lunar Heralds, not so frequently but dropping. It's been an hour and nothing in the Alpine sad.gif Also I need to leave the AP alone, gonna run out of space on AP eggs...

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That soulcrushing feel when you get a lunar herald but see a gold at the same time. sad.gif

Ow.

 

I haven't even seen one in years.

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That soulcrushing feel when you get a lunar herald but see a gold at the same time. sad.gif

Or two Xenowyrms in a row. Yesterday I got my last needed blue, and immediately afterwards, there were TWO Xenos. Even worse, it told me I was overburdened which means I actually would have caught them. I still only have one of each type except for one.

 

*sobs*

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having no luck whatsoever with the blue ones..

Try the full-hour drop in the desert or the volcano, that usually yields several Lunars.

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Try the full-hour drop in the desert or the volcano, that usually yields several Lunars.

Full hour drops can have some lag (just got some while in the alpine). But definitely stick to desert or volcano- I recommend volcano, I've seen the most there smile.gif

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Hurray, my bronze Heralds are all grown up now, time to stock up on the blues, while they're still dropping, just need my other hatchies that are locking up my scroll to grow up. ^^ Glad to see the Blues are still dropping generously during the 5min drops, so hopefully I'll be able to grab them fairly quickly. I must say, this release has improved 1000% since TJ increased the Bronze drop ratio and kept it up for the Blues as well - thank you so much for that! <3 Looking forward to seeing the Silver flood. wink.gif

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At least the wait for silvers gives me some time to hunt some other stuff. I found some Xenos while hunting for the past couple hours. happy.gif It also lets my influencers rest, which is very important.

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Here's the leading hypothesis. We're all using different words to say it, but we're all essentially saying the same thing. The percentages represent how much of each moon is visible from Valkemare.

 

> has been substituted for the words "greater than." This includes waxing gibbous, full, and waning gibbous.

< has been substituted for the words "less than." This includes waning crescent, new, and waxing crescent.

 

>50% Cirion, <50% Aurax = Blue

<50% Cirion, >50% Aurax = Gold

<50% Cirion, <50% Aurax = Brown

>50% Cirion, >50% Aurax = Silver

Brilliant! This is my personal speculation which moonphase will give us which colour.

 

And you have to admit this is a simple mechanic the only thing that we now need is the knowledge how long a full lunar cycle is for Cirion and Aurax and the actual phases of each moon.

 

Then it will be easy to get the desired colour.

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Brilliant! This is my personal speculation which moonphase will give us which colour.

 

And you have to admit this is a simple mechanic the only thing that we now need is the knowledge how long a full lunar cycle is for Cirion and Aurax and the actual phases of each moon.

 

Then it will be easy to get the desired colour.

Where you can find out phases of both moons?

Thank you in advance

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Where you can find out phases of both moons?

Thank you in advance

There's link in TJ's initial post. You could also go via Help - Time reference.

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Where you can find out phases of both moons?

Thank you in advance

Click on the clock next to your username in the top right corner of the screen. smile.gif

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i dunno bout the rest of you, but my overall number of eggs/hatchies is pretty high like 20 out of 21. so i don't mind waiting.

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Yeeeah but even those scheduled releases aren't that predictable- it's not always the same time or the same day tongue.gif

 

So the volcano and desert are still dropping Lunar Heralds, not so frequently but dropping. It's been an hour and nothing in the Alpine sad.gif Also I need to leave the AP alone, gonna run out of space on AP eggs...

I picked up 2 Heralds in the Alpine last night just after midnight. Actually I was looking for Xenos huh.gif

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Oh jeeze can we just get this damned drop over with so we can get on to something else already?!

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i dunno bout the rest of you, but my overall number of eggs/hatchies is pretty high like 20 out of 21. so i don't mind waiting.

Yeah, mine's 19/21 with only two eggs on my scroll. I just tried breeding for a few of my lineages since we seem to have a short break, but not much luck.

 

I'm sorry for those who are disappointed or angry about the wait for silver Heralds, but it makes sense in light of the breed description. I will be very interested to see how close some of the theories are to the actual pattern.

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Sigh...if I do make any lineages with these guys, I'll just work with the Lunar Heralds I get from the release. I don't feel like constantly watching the Moons just to get the right egg. Especially since if you fail to breed a Herald once, the 7 day breeding cool-down will make you miss your second opportunity and you have to wait another cycle.

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I picked up 2 Heralds in the Alpine last night just after midnight. Actually I was looking for Xenos huh.gif

That's really ironic considering I found an Alpine Xeno while looking for Alpine Heralds today -___-

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Phases are the same from last night's change, and eggs are still blue.

- Please tell me if I missed anything!

- Document Updated!

 

A CURRENT SUMMARY OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MOON AND EGGS:

(For everybody who was late to the party and/or wants updates)

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- We have Beautiful pseudo-six-winged Lunar Heralds, the former prize breed, moon-loving dragons!

- Currently, Aurax (Gold Moon) and Cirion (Blue Moon) are still in the New Moon and Full Moon phases respectively.

- Everyone is still catching Blue/Indigo eggs in the Cave!! No change in color!

- We have Adult dragons, and we are breeding Blue/Indigo Lunar eggs. No change in color!

- The eggs are found in the Alpine, Desert, and Volcano Biomes. (Think places where the sky is easily seen.)

- So far, Gold, Bronze, and Blue/Indigo eggs have dropped in the Cave! Bronze and Blue/Indigo eggs have been bred.

 

- Info on the current moon phase can be accessed from the Time page, which you can get to by clicking the clock in the top right hand corner of the new Standard DC skin, by going to the Help page and clicking Time Reference link, by going to the first page in this thread and clicking the link in the banner, OR by clicking the 3 above links embedded in this post.

- As of Sept 05, 2015 @ ~9:00PM, Indigo Lunar eggs began dropping en masse! Go and grab them!!!

 

- No one had been tracking the moons until now, so we have no idea how quickly they change. So, we cannot accurately predict what eggs will come when.

- That means no one knows how to get the other egg colors until the other moon phases come and the lunar cycle completes itself.

- There is a possibility that the release started in the middle of the Waning Gibbous phase for Aurax and Waning Crescent phase for Cirion.

- Based on current data, it seems that Cirion's phases change faster than Aurax's.

--- Aurax takes 8 days to move from WaNing Crescent to New Moon.

--- Cirion takes 4 days to move from WaXing Gibbous to Full Moon.

 

- IMPORTANT: All data before 09/03/13, 1:56 PM was incorrect as the time page was showing Aurax's phase for BOTH moons. TJ has provided a corrected cycle in his post.

- This does NOT affect the information gathered on the eggs, just the moon phases the eggs were caught/bred under.

- The cycle has progressed, and so far we know: (Taken and modified from TJ's post)

Aug 29, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DragonCave (DC) to Sep 01, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC.

Aurax: Waning Gibbous

Cirion: Waning Crescent

CB Lunar eggs are Gold.

 

Sep 01, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent*

Cirion: New*

CB Lunar eggs change from Gold to Bronze.

- The Gold egg drop lasted about 3 days and 17 hours.

* = TJ's post doesn't mention a phase change at the same time the new color drops, but we know the color change happened here. So, we assume the phase changed happened here too.

 

Sep 02, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent

Cirion: New

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze.

 

Sep 03, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 05, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning Crescent**

Cirion: Waxing Crescent**

CB Lunar eggs are Bronze, and Bred Lunar eggs are Bronze.

** Exact time of change Unknown.

 

Sep 05, 2015 starting @ 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs have changed from Bronze to Blue/Indigo.

- The Bronze egg drop lasted about 4 days.

 

Sep 05, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC to Sep 09, 2015 @ 7:59 PM EST/DC

Aurax: Waning crescent

Cirion: Waxing Gibbous

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 09, 2015 starting 8:00 PM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

 

Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:00 AM EST/DC

Aurax: New

Cirion: Full

CB Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo, and Bred Lunar eggs are Blue/Indigo.

[Edited by Shokomon]

- Note: The Moon Phases TJ posted were Phases of the moon at 12:00 AM EST of their respective date. That is why the post doesn't match up with the color change.

- We can assume that on Sept 1, 2015, the phases changed at 8:00 PM EST/DC, where Aurax shifted Waning Gibbous to Waning Cresent, and Cirion from Waning Cresent to New Moon.

 

- There are many theories on how the eggs will come and when, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) Certain eggs being available during different phases of the moons in general, under the assumption that the moons are in synch, and will share the same moon phases.

2) Certain eggs being avaliable relative to the different phases of each moon (assuming the moons are NOT in synch) and overlap between both moons' phases.

3) One moon's phases controlling cave-born colors and the other moon's phases controlling bred colors.

4) Certain Lunar eggs colors are linked to Aurax, and the other colors are linked to Cirion.

5) Gold is the CB color, and the others could be Bred colors.

6) The Lunar egg colors are based on what percentage of the moons are illuminated. If one moon is greater than 50% illuminated (gibbous to full), while the other moon is less than 50% illuminated (crescent to new), then Lunar eggs are the color of the dominant moon. If both moons are equal in illumination, other colors show up.

- Exactly which moon phase produces what eggs, which moon controls breeding and caveborn colors, and which colors are associated with which moon are up for debate.

- The Lunar Heralds' description has given some support to Theories 1, 2, and 6.

- The newest phase change, recent egg colors, and TJ's correctional post seems to support Theory 2 and 6.

 

- There are also theories about the DC lunar cycle itself, including, but not limited to:

  • 1) The Moons are in synch and share phases.

2) The Moons are NOT in synch, and occasionally have overlapping phases.

3) The DC Lunar cycle is equivalent to Earth's Lunar cycle, and the current phase will change in at  most a week.

- And there more theories on the size of the moons, their relative speeds, their distance from Valkemare, and the list goes on.

- As of the most recent change and TJ's correctional post, the moons' phases are not in synch͵ supporting Theory 2.

 

- LadyLyzar will tells us more about the dragons, once we start getting adults.

- TJ stated that the orbits of Valkemare's moons are close to circular, and the centre of mass would be close to the planet as it is much larger in size.

--- (Sorry for the confusion here! I completely misinterpreted what TJ posted. Thank you pinkgothic for making a much more accurate summary statement.)

- LadyLyzar seems to hint that the Lunar Heralds may have been initially intended to be prize dragons, and later states that they were made at the same time as the Shimmers.

- LadyLyzar confirms that the 2nd and 3rd set of wings are in fact illusions. Only the top ones are real and that it is not motion illusion.

- LadyLyzar has given us information on the Adults!

- LadyLyzar is giving us a pretty Gold Lunar Herald avatar to match her own avatar. She'll give us the Bronze avatar once we start getting adults.

--- She has given us the Bronze Herald Avatar!

- LadyLyzar states that Lunar Heralds do indeed have metallic scales, but she didn't intend for them to be classified as "metallic dragons" like Golds and Silvers. As they were originally intended to be prizes, she wanted to make them shiny and pretty.

- LadyLyzar does not call the "blue" Lunar eggs "Indigos;" She just states that the "blues" are indigo in color as indigo is her favorite color, which makes sense as the "blue" lunar was meant to be her Alt. She later has reaffirmed this, stating that there is no official name for the "blue" Lunars and that they really are just indigo in color as they were to be her alt were these dragons to be chosen as prize dragons.

-LadyLyzar states that the element for the Lunar Heralds had not been planned out, and that she would put them as "Light" element.

- LadyLyzar states that the Lunar Heralds were retooled after the Shimmers were chosen for prizes, and while the moon phases work a little different than she expected, it's not complicated, and we will figure it out eventually. She won't tell us anything about the mechanic though.

 

- The description for the Lunar Heralds has been updated from this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced.

- To this:

Lunar Heralds are deeply attuned to the two moons of Valkemare, Aurax and Cirion. Strictly nocturnal, they draw energy from moonlight and will only hunt when the moons have waned. When breeding, the amount of moonlight the parents receive from each moon will determine the color of the egg produced. When a Lunar Herald is struck by direct moonlight, an illusion of multiple wings may appear. Witnessing a Lunar Herald’s illusory wings is commonly believed to be a sign of good fortune.

 

Threads!

- Lunar Herald Breeding and Naming

- DC Moon Watch and Lunar Herald Theories

 

Documents!

- DC Moon Watch & Lunar Egg Tracking

 

And, I think that's it for the summary.

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Oh jeeze can we just get this damned drop over with so we can get on to something else already?!

At this point I kind of agree, especially if it means we miss a September release like someone speculated. I'm just kind of tired of this release by now.

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For a moment there I thought you were talking about Silver Lunar Herald's. xd.png

Yeah, that's why I added the egg description..didn't want people to think I meant the heralds, since silver is the next color we're expecting!

 

I just caught another blue one..guess those are still dropping.

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I'm sorry for those who are disappointed or angry about the wait for silver Heralds, but it makes sense in light of the breed description. I will be very interested to see how close some of the theories are to the actual pattern.

This, very much. It is frustrating having to wait, but kind of at last we have a real puzzle and something different. So maybe no september release? So many months we haven't had them, and MAN these are so very special.

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