Tiny Little Questions

[Xopwe]

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Edited September 23, 2021 by Cryinglightning505

[HeatherMarie]

They get the biome-specific tombstones after 2 weeks, I believe. Basically the amount of time it would take for a dead-thing to disappear from your scroll, but since it's a zombie it will instead become the specific tombstone.

[Moriaty]

1 hour ago, Cryinglightning505 said:

Shouldn't they have sandy tombstone and stone covered in vines? 

 

Marie was right, you'll see the tombstones change after the 14th judging by the time of death (even non-CB zbs have a different tombstone from the plain ones)

 

Quick question also about the undeads: do the tombstone not appear on scroll during the day time? I was checking my sister's scroll for confirmation of the information above (since she's more actively making undeads than I am these days and have a lot of recent turns) but I just amusingly saw that none of the undeads that are more than 2 weeks old and have the custom tombstone show up on her scroll. They do show up in the group dedicated to undeads though. Is this normal/expected?

[HeatherMarie]

@Moriaty  That's strange, they should show up. I just checked a few of my older zombies and they show where they are supposed to (I checked both my regular scroll sort and breed-sort). How old are the ones you were checking? Maybe there is a lag between the 2-weeks and them showing up regularly on the scroll? 

[Syiren]

I have a question regarding Pitfires. The Halloween dragons released in 2020. When trying to turn them into their altered angry form is it possible to try and turn them as hatchlings or did that only work on adults?

[Arcy]

25 minutes ago, Syiren said:

I have a question regarding Pitfires. The Halloween dragons released in 2020. When trying to turn them into their altered angry form is it possible to try and turn them as hatchlings or did that only work on adults?

 

only adults can be reborn, hatchlings just die

[trystan]

2 minutes ago, Arcy said:

only adults can be reborn,

is that only on halloween, or could i exalt a Pitfire tomorrow if i wanted to?

[Moriaty]

34 minutes ago, HeatherMarie said:

@Moriaty  That's strange, they should show up. I just checked a few of my older zombies and they show where they are supposed to (I checked both my regular scroll sort and breed-sort). How old are the ones you were checking? Maybe there is a lag between the 2-weeks and them showing up regularly on the scroll? 

 

I just asked my sister to log in to her scroll. This is what she sees when she's viewing "dragon" versus what I see when I view her scroll from outside, as you can see all the non-plain tombstones disappeared:

 

 

 

I checked the unofficial wiki and it said "Undead dragons used to only be visible on scrolls between 12AM and 6AM DC time (EST), but now are always visible in the form of a tombstone, taking on their Undead sprite during the hours where they would previously only appear" so that was confusing for me, either that info from wiki is out of date again or this isn't supposed to happen

 

[Arcy]

7 minutes ago, trystan said:

is that only on halloween, or could i exalt a Pitfire tomorrow if i wanted to?

 

any time, I believe o:

edit: yeah, pitfires were released on halloween so if that were the case, nobody would have reborns yet

Edited September 5, 2021 by Arcy

[trystan]

@Arcy - thanks!

but, thanks to those silly Shumogas, i don't have anymore kill slots. 

i think i remember it being 100% if you kill an adult Pitfire it Exalts (as opposed to dead-dead)

[Syiren]

1 hour ago, Arcy said:

 

only adults can be reborn, hatchlings just die

Thanks! I couldn't remember how the mechanic worked and considered myself lucky enough to have 2 turn Exalted on me. Appreciate the help.

 

ETA: @trystan - I think/hope you're right. I just tried it with two of my remaining normal Pitfires and one dodged the blade, the other was a success and became Exalted. I don't want to try again until I can grab some more if we can get older Halloween CB breeds this season, but if I catch more I shall test more. Thanks! 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Syiren
adding stuff. :P

[trystan]

@Syiren - you're welcome.

i have no more kill slots, thanks Shumogas!  (and Kalona. silly vamp)

 

Edited September 5, 2021 by trystan

[HeatherMarie]

2 hours ago, Moriaty said:

 

I just asked my sister to log in to her scroll. This is what she sees when she's viewing "dragon" versus what I see when I view her scroll from outside, as you can see all the non-plain tombstones disappeared:

 

Well this is interesting. I logged out of my scroll to test, and I'm not seeing the zombie tombstones on my scroll when logged out:

vs

 

Wonder if this is intended or a bug, I have no idea if it's always been this way or what.

[Lagie]

1 minute ago, HeatherMarie said:

 

Well this is interesting. I logged out of my scroll to test, and I'm not seeing the zombie tombstones on my scroll when logged out:

vs

 

Wonder if this is intended or a bug, I have no idea if it's always been this way or what.

It's intentional. I can see my own zombie tombstone when I'm logged in. No one else can unless it's zombie time in which case they see the zombie not the tombstone.

[HeatherMarie]

5 minutes ago, Lagie said:

It's intentional. I can see my own zombie tombstone when I'm logged in. No one else can unless it's zombie time in which case they see the zombie not the tombstone.

 

That seems really odd, if it's intentional. We can see other people's zombie-tombstones in Groups, and through view or lineage link, but not on their regular scroll? Doesn't seem very consistent. Sigh.

[Lagie]

5 minutes ago, HeatherMarie said:

 

That seems really odd, if it's intentional. We can see other people's zombie-tombstones in Groups, and through view or lineage link, but not on their regular scroll? Doesn't seem very consistent. Sigh.

Hmm. Can you see mine when you're logged in? It's the 61st dragon on my scroll, after Please Sign Trotsky's Guest Book (paper hatchie).

Here's what I see:

Edited September 5, 2021 by Lagie
Adding image

[trystan]

Trotsky's Undead Dragon said no~

 

Spoiler

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by trystan

[Moriaty]

4 hours ago, Lagie said:

Hmm. Can you see mine when you're logged in? It's the 61st dragon on my scroll, after Please Sign Trotsky's Guest Book (paper hatchie).

Here's what I see:

 

  Hide contents

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't see it either:

 

Spoiler

 

The reason I found it odd was exactly what Marie said: I could see my sister's undeads in her undead group but can't on her actual scroll. If I were unable to see undeads in other's group too that'd make more sense to me, because then it'd mean you just can't see other people's zombie tombstones, but now it's kind of confusing and inconsistent. Not that I mind a lot though just a strange and interesting finding that I don't understand why and really want an answer for 

 

I also noticed something: undead things apparently don't count towards "grown dragon"!

 

I counted dragons on my sister's scroll and the "grown dragon" count apparently don't include the undead hatchlings she had. I counted 201 dragons when I view her scroll, subtracting 8 undeads that haven't passed 2 weeks would make 193 actual grown things (they're all frozen hatchlings btw), and that's exactly what her scroll said her "grown dragon"  count is. But going in to the undead group reviews another 40-ish undead older-than-2-weeks tombstones not showing in the scroll, soo apparently they don't count as grown dragons either

 

Then I did a quick check on my own scroll. I have 26 growing things on page 1. I set the limit to be 50 dragons per page. I got 60 pages, with 31 adults and 3 frozen hatchlings on the last page (when I view my dragons page) 50*59 - 26 + 34 = 2958. My grown dragon count said 2938. Guess what, I indeed had a total of 20 undead hatchling and adults!

 

Proof of these numbers:

Spoiler

 

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by Moriaty

[Fuzzbucket]

8 hours ago, Lagie said:

It's intentional. I can see my own zombie tombstone when I'm logged in. No one else can unless it's zombie time in which case they see the zombie not the tombstone.

 

8 hours ago, HeatherMarie said:

 

That seems really odd, if it's intentional. We can see other people's zombie-tombstones in Groups, and through view or lineage link, but not on their regular scroll? Doesn't seem very consistent. Sigh.

 

It may seem odd, but it was always so. It scared me half to death a few years ago after I got my first and tried to show it to a friend. I thought The Worst.

Now I don't know if you can see them in a GROUP - here's mine, which are in full view just now, but won't do when I get back from town later:

 

https://dragcave.net/group/103777

Edited September 6, 2021 by Fuzzbucket

[Iside]

On 9/4/2021 at 10:53 PM, Moriaty said:

Yes, they still may die or hatch

Thank you!

[DarkellaLord]

Where can I read about the икуувштп  mechanics of Pyropellis wyverns?=) How to get different colors children?

[Lagie]

1 hour ago, DarkellaLord said:

Where can I read about the икуувштп  mechanics of Pyropellis wyverns?=) How to get different colors children?

This thread has info:

And my first post there has a link to the spreadsheet.

[Tiira]

I was just wondering... is there any consensus of what the floret colour variants are called? I guess "purple" and "gold" are quite obvious for both iris and alstroemeria, but the third one, is it "peach" or "pink" or are both used equally? I also very often see "magenta" for the peach/pink iris and sometimes "brown" for the gold alstro (egg at least). And I don't know what I should call them. 😹

[0x08]

@Varislapsi

Here is my take on these dragons, based on what I've seen and what I would use:

Iris Purple; purple

Iris Gold; gold

Iris Pink; magenta, wine

Alstroemeria Purple, Alstro Purple; lilac

Alstroemeria Gold, Alstro Gold; brown, chocolate

Alstroemeria Pink, Alstro Pink; peach, rose

 

There isn't an official nomenclature as far as I know.

Edited September 6, 2021 by 0x08

[purplehaze]

13 minutes ago, Varislapsi said:

I was just wondering... is there any consensus of what the floret colour variants are called? I guess "purple" and "gold" are quite obvious for both iris and alstroemeria, but the third one, is it "peach" or "pink" or are both used equally? I also very often see "magenta" for the peach/pink iris and sometimes "brown" for the gold alstro (egg at least). And I don't know what I should call them. 😹

What @0x08 said.

I think people pretty much understand which one you are talking about, no matter what terminology you use, but there does not seem to be any one standard or "official" terminology.