Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I've seen a post here and there lately in other threads detailing mates that never seem to throw the other breed of dragon. Probably because one of them is over bred and one is under. But these are also usually with common dragons. So I'm curious, what dragons are super-hard to breed that you've run into? To start, from what I recall, Olives and Guardians are pretty tough to lineage with. Current Hardest to Breed: Sounds like Bleeding Moon is the Holy Grail Edit: So anywho, we did two raffles to see if we could alter difficult breeding ratios and the AP is sitting at 4d5 eggies :3 Glorious! I'm going to try some of the pairs listed and see how it goes. Electric x Brute - 10 Breedings. 3 : 7 eggs, favoring Brutes Royal Crimson x Brute - 9 Breedings. 1 : 5 eggs, favoring Brutes Magi x Gold Tangar - 10 Breedings. 0 : 8 eggs, favoring Tangars Sunsong x Yellow Crown - 10 Breedings. 0 : 8 eggs, favoring Yellow Crowns Balloon x Bleeding Moon - 10 Breedings. 1 : 3 eggs, favoring Bleeding Moons (my! my pairs don't like each other) Flamingo x Falconiform - 10 Breedings. 1 : 5 eggs, favoring Falconiforms Albino x Olive - 10 Breedings. 2 : 5 eggs, favoring Olives Royal Blue x Frostbite - 10 Breedings. 2 : 7 eggs, favoring Frostbites Water x Waverunner - 10 Breedings. 0 : 4 eggs, favoring Waverunners Stone x Blue Banded - 10 Breedings. 0 : 8 eggs, favoring Blue Banded Terrae x Nocturne - 10 Breedings. 1 : 5 eggs, favoring Nocturnes Either Nebula x Royal Crimson - 10 Breedings. 1 : 7 eggs, favoring Royal Crimsons Either Nebula x Imperial Fleshcrowne - 10 Breedings. 1 : 5 eggs, favoring Imperial Fleshcrownes Red Finned Tidal x Carmine Wyvern - 10 Breedings. 1 : 3 eggs, favoring Carmines - not friendly to each other at all. Ember x Cassare - 187 Breedings. 0 : ?? eggs, favoring Cassares Ran out of Mates for the ones below Royal Crimson x Carmine Carmine x Balloon Yellow Crowned x Lumina Not so bad? Royal Crimson x Red Finned Tidal - 10 Breedings. 2 : 3 eggs, favoring Tidals Edited June 26, 2015 by Vhale Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Electrics from Brutes. Yes, really. Edit: A super kind user bred me an Electric from a Brute (looks like they got lucky ). Thank you! Edit II: Update further down the thread! Edited June 6, 2015 by pinkgothic Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 Royal crimson x brute. Don't expect a lot of crimsons. Royal blue x frostbite. Cold trumps all things it comes in contact with. Someone said the other day, that in common x common pairings, the younger breed (brutes in the case of royal crimsons x brutes) will throw more eggs of its kind, until the ratios even out. I don't know if that's the case, but it makes sense. I would imagine in rare x common, and in uncommon (royal blue) x common (frostbite), that is even more the case, regardless of the release time of the common parent. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 getting a silver from a black tea. http://dragcave.net/progeny/uCZkC Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) getting a silver from a black tea. http://dragcave.net/progeny/uCZkC I got one http://dragcave.net/progeny/NMXZM but that is only one of 4 silvers I bred weekly----- MY bad breeder is magi from tangar http://dragcave.net/progeny/CK1GQ when I even get an egg at all now have a 2nd magi but his first child was a tangar as well Edited June 1, 2015 by dragonpuck Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 I got one http://dragcave.net/progeny/NMXZM but that is only one of 4 silvers I bred weekly----- MY bad breeder is magi from tangar http://dragcave.net/progeny/CK1GQ when I even get an egg at all now have a 2nd magi but his first child was a tangar as well those tangars tho luckyyyyy I need a silver for an iou. Unfortunately I only have one silver to breed. If I had four......I'd probably have waaaaaaaaaaaay more ious for second gens. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 TurpentinexANYTHING Like seriously. Unless you want turpentines 5ever. I agree. I've got the very ambitious plan to do a Turpentine x Tan Ridgewing checker. 3rd gen would be enough, but for that, I need one tan Ridgewing from my 3 couples. I've had that idea only recently, so haven't got a lot to show for it (basically, just 10 2nd gen-Turpentines), but I feel like it's going to take a while (and that it might be the Doctor Who "Blink"- "It's going to take a while" type). Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I've done a very common x very common pairing with waterhorses and yellow-crowned dragons, and from my experience you get almost always yellow-crowneds out of that pairing. Waterhorse offspring is very rare. As for a rare x common pairing... I've worked my butt off trying to get coppers out of green copper x specklethroat pairings. In the end it seems switching partners made a big difference; the same copper lady produced like 18 specklethroats with mister specklethroat A, then 10 more speckle babies with mister specklethroat B, and lastly and finally a copper on first try with mister specklethroat C. Edit: Wow, just after I posted, I tried breeding again, and finally got a 3rd gen! Edited June 1, 2015 by Ripan Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 Shimmer from Fever 35 fails I think. All I know is there is more than 30 fails q_q I see Dirty Tabs picked up one of its babies lol Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 Shimmer from Fever 35 fails I think. All I know is there is more than 30 fails q_q I see Dirty Tabs picked up one of its babies lol Sure did. And that's before you got 13 more fevers outta them! I didn't think it'd be so difficult getting a non-yellow-crowned from a sunsong amphiptere. And bleeding moons usually take over any pairing with an older breed. D: Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 TurpentinexANYTHING Like seriously. Unless you want turpentines 5ever. *sigh* I've gotten Seasonals from Turpentines, but I don't often breed my Turps to anything else. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 1, 2015 Sure did. And that's before you got 13 more fevers outta them! I didn't think it'd be so difficult getting a non-yellow-crowned from a sunsong amphiptere. And bleeding moons usually take over any pairing with an older breed. D: Oh, joy. I guess I have that to look forward to for my Yellow-Crowned x Pink lineage. Oh well, it's pretty and that's all that counts. This is the only lineage I've been having trouble continuing. Though it's kinda expected to have trouble breeding a Golden Wyvern from a Swallowtail. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 TurpentinexANYTHING Like seriously. Unless you want turpentines 5ever. *sigh* Bobby Hamilton will never get a GW child (the irony); http://dragcave.net/progeny/AMwOi Also, this pairing of my Silver x Nhiostrife is probably not the the best effect; http://dragcave.net/progeny/mLHqh Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 Oh my gosh, I have 2 CB Silver pairs and they both refuse to give eggs. Pair 1: Total breedings: 5 Fertility used: 4 times, 2 on male and 2 on female. All failed. Pair 2: Total breedings: 1 Fertility used: 1 time, on female. No egg. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) I'm trying to do a Flamingo x Falconiform line and cannot get a Flamingo at all. I suppose it probably hasn't helped that I decided I liked this pairing during a Flamingo hoarding game. I also have a hard time getting Tsunamis from my Tsunami x Electric line. Don't even get me started on trying to get Golds from my Gold x Sunsong line. Edited June 2, 2015 by wbmorgan Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 Bobby Hamilton will never get a GW child (the irony); http://dragcave.net/progeny/AMwOi Also, this pairing of my Silver x Nhiostrife is probably not the the best effect; http://dragcave.net/progeny/mLHqh It's not just turps that GWs are hard to breed with: https://dragcave.net/progeny/FJju9 Trying and failing to get one from a sunstone for an eventual tinsel partner. Someone said the other day, that in common x common pairings, the younger breed (brutes in the case of royal crimsons x brutes) will throw more eggs of its kind, until the ratios even out. I don't know if that's the case, but it makes sense. I would imagine in rare x common, and in uncommon (royal blue) x common (frostbite), that is even more the case, regardless of the release time of the common parent. Yup, yup. Without the kind help of fuzzy, I never would have gotten my tea x pebble checker going. She provided all the 2nd gen black teas, lol. https://dragcave.net/progeny/l22Gt https://dragcave.net/progeny/KEAKB https://dragcave.net/progeny/eMFNp https://dragcave.net/progeny/hFGDP https://dragcave.net/progeny/APSiT https://dragcave.net/progeny/AZQzw https://dragcave.net/progeny/0xqYk Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) Avatar of Creation from Blue Banded x GoN Both me and my friend have been trying for MONTHS And this doesn't include the no egg weeks... Edit: The above is just mine. I will let my friend post if she wants to Edited June 2, 2015 by Kaityn Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) This is from several pairs, but I'm working on the base of a large M Silver x Deep Sea checker. Deep Sea 2nd gens: 37 Silver 2nd gens: 3 I'm not surprised when one's rare and one's super common, but I feel bad about tossing so many of their babies in the AP. I limited myself to keeping two Deep Seas from each pair, in case their eventual 2nd gen Silver mates are choosy. Now I just need one more Silver before I can start working on the next generation... Edited June 2, 2015 by Gryphonic Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) Gold-Horned Tangars. And I thought Tangar x White would be a fine idea to do. NOPE. Took about a year just to get the 2nd gen Whites needed to get it ready to go. Also Waverunner x Metallic *shudder* that fail wall was not fun. Edited June 2, 2015 by s0r0k4 Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) Getting anything from a Bloody Moon that isn't another Bloody Moon. Seriously. I couldn't even get then to give me an Albino egg, it was so ridiculous. Bleeding" Moon, i meant. I was on my phone, whoops Edited June 2, 2015 by silver_chan Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 Avatar of Destruction, from Seragamma x GoN! It's such a lovely pairing, but I just have to give it up for now. Also, Royal Blues from Frostbites. I should neeever have decided on that pairing for a checker. I had eight pairs throwing Frostbites for four weeks in a row; I only got... two or three Royal Blues out of it. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 Avatar of Destruction, from Seragamma x GoN! It's such a lovely pairing, but I just have to give it up for now. Also, Royal Blues from Frostbites. I should neeever have decided on that pairing for a checker. I had eight pairs throwing Frostbites for four weeks in a row; I only got... two or three Royal Blues out of it. I feel your pain, Chalkboard, or else I could help you with that. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 I'm surprised to hear Brutes are on the list. At least, I know with the nice red and purple scheme several people had planned on lineages. I guess that might be the flip side of more releases. It takes people longer to breed up the ratios to get to the point where things are even. And while it may be true that older dragons fall off the ratios after a year, it's also true that people still have those dragons and breed eggs off them for the AP, which just puts it back where it was that much faster. I know when I first started, Mass Breedings were considered very bad form because apparently they threw off the ratios badly. But from seeing people try for 2 years for a common egg, seems like planned Mass Breedings might need to be a thing for specific dragons. The few mass breedings I've seen organized have always been for more popular breeds rather than less. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 2, 2015 I would love to see more massbreeding for new commons. We have enough breeds now that really need the boost to justify massbreeding for the sake of massbreeding. Share this post Link to post
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