Rick Riordan's Books

[DawnofAges]

I know Heroes of Olympus already has a discussion thread, but this one is to discuss all three series--Percy Jackson and the Olympians, Heroes of Olympus, and the Kane Chronicles. Don't keep reading if you haven't FINISHED all three series, or if you don't want spoilers. Because there will be spoilers, I'm sure of it. Okay? Got it? Good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Blood of Olympus was okay, but... The ending? *raises eyebrows* I mean, seriously? Leo dies, comes back to life, and goes off to Calypso's island? REALLY? I know he's the loner of the seven, but not even returning to Camp Half-Blood first... I can't believe he would do that. At least, it didn't seem like he would be going back to Camp Half-Blood, or to the Twelfth Legion.

 

 

On the other hand, did anyone see the announcement for the new series, the Norse gods (I think) at the back of the book? Magnus CHASE. Chase, guys. Annabeth CHASE. WE all know Annabeth has stepsiblings, on her dad's side. See the connection? I'm wondering now... Gods of Olympus and Heroes of Olympus both had people with gods as their parent/s, but Kane Chronicles didn't... What will be the connection to the Norse gods in this series? Thoughts?

[Denwayasha]

(I know there's a spoiler warning in the thread title and in the first post but I'll add another just in case. !Here there be spoilers!)

 

 

 

 

I liked BoO, but my favorite of that series is still Son of Neptune~ That was my reaction to the ending too. I really liked the rest of it, but... o_0 I mean, I get not going back to CHB or Camp Jupiter right away, but letting your two best friends not know you're alive just seemed odd to me. (Side note: I love both Jasper and Caleo as ships but it drives me nuts when people hate on Piper for crushing on Jason when "She hasn't even known him that long." when Leo was only on Ogigya for like, two weeks. *steps off soabox*) Though I like to imagine that he did eventually reveal himself, like, ten years later and scared everyone to death.

 

I don't know very much about Norse mythology aside from the probably inaccurate bits from the Marvel movies, but personally I think it will be somewhere between how the Greeks/Romans are closely and directly descended from the gods and the Egyptians channel their energy but have no godly blood, sort of like how some of the Twelfth Legion are legacies, only much more removed from their godly ancestors. Also, I don't think the Norse series will be based on Annabeth's step brothers, but rather her cousins in Boston. Somewhere toward the end of BoO she says that she has an uncle and cousins there (A Yankees fan with relatives in Boston?! lol) but that her dad doesn't get along with them "because of an old rivalry." and I can't help but be reminded of the bit in, iirc, The Red Pyramid where Amos tells Carter they stay in Brooklyn and don't cross the river "because Manhattan has other gods" and if the Greeks/Romans don't get along with the Egyptians, they probably don't care for the Norse either. Plus, Boston is farther north than New York and the original lands of Norse mythology is farther north than Greece, Rome and Egypt and when the different myths had moved to North America it says in one of the books in the original series that they liked to find somewhere close to their original home. I dunno, really, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

And I know that the author of the books has said that he doesn't like doing epilouges, but am I the only one who would have liked to see a Percabeth wedding or at least a proposal to warm their little shipper's heart? :3 (Though I thought the Nico storyline at the end was super cute, but still~)

 

Long post is long. Oops. If you read all that, here's a blue chocolate chip cookie for ya. >(:

[DawnofAges]

I'm thinking it could go either way, Annabeth's brothers or cousins, though until you pointed it out to me I forgot about her cousins. Though, of course, Magnus Chase may not even be related to her at all.

 

 

Oh, and there MIGHT be an ultimate battle, even worse than Gaea's uprising. I don't know if you've read the little crossover, I don't remember which book it was in, where Percy and Carter meet? They basically promised to help each other out, or something, if either's camp was in trouble. Or something like that, anyways. They each knew the other had some form of magic--they battled, for gods' sake--but didn't really find out what gave them their power. From what I remember of it, anyways.

 

If Percy never contacted the Egyptian magicians, even when Gaea was threatening the world--he didn't have much time to ask for help when she finally did rise, though--well, don't you think something even bigger is going to happen? It's entirely possible that Riordan forgot about this, or left it out by mistake, but.... Do you think that not putting it in is foreshadowing a ultimate confrontation between/working with all four groups of gods?

 

"Magnus Chase has always been a troubled kid. Since his mother's mysterious death, he's lived alone on the streets of Boston, surviving by his wits, keeping one step ahead of the police and the truant officers.

 

One day, he's tracked down by an uncle he's never met - a man his mother claimed was dangerous. His uncle tells him an impossible secret: Magnus is the son of a Norse god.

 

The Viking myths are true. The gods of Asgard are preparing for war. Trolls, giants and worse monsters are stirring for doomsday. To prevent Ragnarok, Magnus must search the Nine Worlds for a weapon that has been lost for thousands of years.

 

When an attack by fire giants forces him to choose between his own safety and the lives of hundreds of innocents, Magnus makes a fatal decision.

 

Sometimes, the only way to start a new life is to die..." --from Wikipedia, though found on Amazon and Goodread

 

So, that answers at least one question--unless Riordan changes everything completely. Magnus Chase is indeed the son of a Norse god, though which one is still a mystery.

 

[Denwayasha]

I have read the little crossovers (There's one with Sadie and Annabeth as well.) and yeah, I agree with you that something bigger has to be coming. Though if I remember right, in the one with Percy and Carter, Carter says something about Percy looking seventeen, so those short stories probably take place after The Blood of Olympus which is why Percy didn't call on the Egyptians during the battle with Gaea. The crossovers were originally published first in the paperback editions of The Serpent's Shadow and The Mark of Athena, so maybe we'll know more once the third Norse book comes out? lol

[DawnofAges]

Yeah, I don't remember much about the Percy-Carter crossover, and I haven't read the Sadie-Annabeth one. So it's possible that it happened after the war with Gaea was over. Yet, the Heroes of Olympus series isn't as spread out as the Gods of Olympus. GoO pretty much had one book's events occurring one year after the previous one, but HoO, after the few months that separated it from GoO (including the time when Percy was asleep, losing his memories) took place within just a few months.

 

 

If the summary of the first Norse book is accurate--if Riordan doesn't change it--and Magnus is Annabeth's cousin, then Annabeth must have TWO uncles living in Boston. If there's only one, then it's reasonable that 1), the uncle Magnus meets would actually be his father, and 2), Magnus should know something about his father even if they haven't met for several years. Yet Annabeth only mentioned one uncle in Boston. And we don't even know if Magnus is living in Boston. *sigh*

Edited October 25, 2014 by heavenuniasus