Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Since there's quite some confusion about the GoN breeding, why not make a list together? Breed your Guardian of Nature with these dragons to obtain the following eggs: - seen a lineage - haven't seen a lineage - neutral dragon (produces only Non-Avatar eggs) Bold text - newly updated/added ~ Avatar of Creation ~ Black Capped Teimarr Black Tea Blue-Banded Blusang Lindwurm Canopy Coastal Waverunner Copper (any color) Deep Sea Flamingo Wyvern Geode Gold Gold-horned Tangar Green Guardian Harvest Holly Lumina Mistletoe Nebula (any color) Purple Pyralspite (any color) Red-finned Tidal Ribbon Dancer Shallow Water Shimmer-scale (gold, silver, bronze) Silver Soulpeace Stone Sunrise Sunset Sunsong Amphiptere Terrae Tsunami Wyvern Two-Finned Bluna Ultraviolet Undine Water Water Walker Waterhorse White Wrapping-Wing Yellow Crowned Yulebuck ~ Avatar of Change ~ Arsani Balloon Blacktip Daydream Frostbite Gray Golden Wyvern Ice Magi Moonstone Nhiostrife Wyvern Nocturne Radiant Angel Ridgewing (purple & tan) Rosebud Seasonal (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter) Shadow Walker Skywing Snow Angel Speckle-Throated Swallowtail Tri-Horn Wyvern Solstice Valentine '09 Winter Magi ~ Avatar of Destruction ~ Black (normal & ALT) Black Marrow Bleeding Moon Brimstone Brute Cavern Lurker Dark Green - "Vine" (normal & ALT) Desipis Electric Ember Falconiform Wyvern Fever Wyvern Grave Hellfire Wyvern Hellhorse Magma Olive Red Seragamma Wyvern Spitfire Sunstone Thunder Turpentine ~ Neutral Dragons: ~ (only produce non-Avatar eggs) Albino Bright-Breasted Wyvern Bright Pink Carmine Cassare Dorsal (purple & red) Frill (They're a discontinued breed [and can't breed other eggs like the Bright Pink Dragon can do], therefore they're most likely unable to even produce a hybrid/avatar) Guardian of Nature (like TJ mentioned in his posting: GoN's can't breed with each other) Heartseeker (since it's not their season they refuse) Heartstealing (since it's not their season they refuse) Horse Imperial Fleshcrowne Mint Neotropical Pillow Pink Royal Blue Royal Crimson Spotted Greenwing Striped (all colors) Sweetling (since it's not their season they refuse) Tinsel (gold, silver & bronze) Whiptail Avatar breeding (3rd gen or higher): When you breed an Avatar to an other dragon they produce either an: Avatar x "normal" dragon Avatar egg of the same kind as its Avatar parent Avatar egg which the Non-Avatar parent would produce Egg of the same kind as its Non-Avatar parent Avatar x Avatar Avatar egg of either the fathers or mothers kind (2 different avatars) Avatar egg of its parents kind (avatars of the same kind) Avatar x GoN Avatar egg of the same kind as its Avatar parent Please feel free to contact me, should you discover other successfull breeding pairs. (links to lineages would be great too) Edited May 4, 2015 by Nyastara Share this post Link to post
Posted May 21, 2014 As this is one of the main discussions going on in the News thread this thread would be a duplicate of the news thread. I can reopen this once the News thread closes. Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Thanks ruby Silver Shimmerscale makes a blue egg (I bred one and gifted it, so I can't link the lineage here). Sunstone makes a smoldering egg, I see it listed with "?" for the blue, have there been evidence for one breed resulting in multiple avatars? Green/Earth/Pebble makes a blue egg. Edited May 26, 2014 by Ruby Eyes Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 I hope the Avatars breed true - I really want to do a Tsunami x Creation checker or stair step Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 I hope the Avatars breed true - I really want to do a Tsunami x Creation checker or stair step Mine did. My creation bred a creation. http://dragcave.net/lineage/Q8sFy Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 I added the updated list from the news topic. (Thanks rubyshoes for sending it to me, since I couldn't edit my post there, because the topic got closed ) Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 I added the updated list from the news topic. (Thanks rubyshoes for sending it to me, since I couldn't edit my post there, because the topic got closed ) You're welcome. Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Here's my 3rd Gen http://dragcave.net/lineage/hV4Gr And still disappointed I can't breed them with my Alt Sweetlings... Edited May 26, 2014 by lilysally Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 does anyone know why they can't breed with Sweetlings Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) does anyone know why they can't breed with Sweetlings Maybe sweetlings are a part of this group: Dragons they can breed with but so far only resulted in a non-avatar egg and since it's not their season, they won't give an egg? Pretty much like breeding a shadow walker with a rosebud in June and getting a refusal. But they can breed fine in Halloween for example. It is pure speculation on my part, but that was the first thing I thought of. If someone knows for sure if they are supposed to breed or not, I would love to know too A sweetling from a GoN would be lovely <3 Edited May 26, 2014 by dhorne Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 Linking to this informative post of TJs, that might help with why Sweetlings and Frills are so stubborn: http://forums.dragcave.net/index.php?showt...dpost&p=8244242 I'm looking forward to trying my GoNs this coming week. I did a x Frill (and got a refusal) and a x Marrow and got a no egg. >.< Cheers! C4. Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Hm, now I can't tell if Hellhorses make blue eggs or if Avatars simply breed true, without regards to their mate's element. I suspect that Avatars don't have the GoNs' flexibility: 7iufB Edited May 26, 2014 by Ruby Eyes Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Thanks ruby Silver Shimmerscale makes a blue egg (I bred one and gifted it, so I can't link the lineage here). Sunstone makes a smoldering egg, I see it listed with "?" for the blue, have there been evidence for one breed resulting in multiple avatars? Green/Earth/Pebble makes a blue egg. About the Sunstone breeding an Avatar of Creation egg: A user posted in the news topic (I have the link to said post if you need confirmation ) that they got a blue egg from a Sunstone x GoN pairing, but said egg was from a Sunsong x GoN pairing. Since the egg was fogged at that time I added it to the Avatar of Creation list. But removed it as soon as I found out that the user simply typed the wrong breed of the Non-GoN parent. does anyone know why they can't breed with Sweetlings Not really, it's just that all users who tried breeding them with a GoN had one and the same result...a refusal. For now we don't know why, since the other Valentine dragons were able to produce avatar eggs (except Heartseekers, for which I and other users haven't found a lineage yet) Maybe sweetlings are a part of this group: Dragons they can breed with but so far only resulted in a non-avatar egg and since it's not their season, they won't give an egg? Pretty much like breeding a shadow walker with a rosebud in June and getting a refusal. But they can breed fine in Halloween for example. It is pure speculation on my part, but that was the first thing I thought of. If someone knows for sure if they are supposed to breed or not, I would love to know too A sweetling from a GoN would be lovely <3 Nope, since all known attempts to breed a Sweetling resulted in a refusal so far they're listed in this section for now "Dragons they refused to breed with more than once". GoN's have successfully bred Avatar eggs with other holiday dragons (except Heartseekers which we haven't found a lineage for yet). Therefore holidays can breed hybrids even when it's not their season. Hm, now I can't tell if Hellhorses make blue eggs or if Avatars simply breed true, without regards to their mate's element. I suspect that Avatars don't have the GoNs' flexibility: 7iufB *Points at "Avatar of Destruction" list* Hellhorses produce avatar of destruction eggs when bred to a GoN. It seems that when bred to an Avatar it produces the Avatar parents egg. Edited May 26, 2014 by Nyastara Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 Pumpkins would surprise me since they are members of the Pygmy group. Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Pumpkins would surprise me since they are members of the Pygmy group. Whops you're right. Ps: If anyone wants to make sure if all those listed pairings are correct, I saved all lineage links we collected for these dragons. Edited May 26, 2014 by Nyastara Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Breeding List - Update (<- link) Removed from "Unknown list" + added to "Avatar of Destruction list": ~ Avatar of Destruction ~ Turpentine (thank you Qualeo for the lineage link) Dragons they can breed with but so far only resulted in a non-avatar egg: Striped (white) (thank you paradoxangel for the lineage link) If you discover a breeding pair (+ lineage link) which hasn't been listed feel free to contact me in this toipc or via PM. Edited May 26, 2014 by Nyastara Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 Avatars seem to have the same breeding rules as GoNs. I just bred a Change with a Soulpeace and got a Creation. I thought I saw a few posts in the news thread reporting Heartseekers refusing GoNs, but I could be wrong. Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 Avatars seem to have the same breeding rules as GoNs. I just bred a Change with a Soulpeace and got a Creation. I thought I saw a few posts in the news thread reporting Heartseekers refusing GoNs, but I could be wrong. I'm quite pleased to see that - will be testing it with my Change Avatar when she grows up, too. *opens spreadsheet, starts planning epic Gaia even gen* Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Avatars seem to have the same breeding rules as GoNs. I just bred a Change with a Soulpeace and got a Creation. I thought I saw a few posts in the news thread reporting Heartseekers refusing GoNs, but I could be wrong. Jap, I think when you breed an Avatar to an other dragon they produce either an: Avatar egg of the same kind as its Avatar parent Avatar egg which the Non-Avatar parent would produce Egg of the same kind as it Non-Avatar parent Really? Ok I must have accidently skipped those postings...*goes to re-read news topic for the fourth time* [EDIT]: Okay, I found one post about a Heartseeker refusal in the news topic (by manual search and using the forums search engine) and paradoxangel had PM'd me about a Heartseeker refusal too. Noooooooo! (click to hear my [or Darth Vader's] disappointment ) Edited May 26, 2014 by Nyastara Share this post Link to post
Posted May 26, 2014 Ok, bred my new Change Avatar with a White and got a Primal Avatar. Woop! Share this post Link to post
Posted May 27, 2014 I bred my GON with a mint,got a mint. http://dragcave.net/lineage/3JcHC Amazon_warrior:I think that proves : Breeding an Avatar to a non-Avatar dragon can get an Avatar egg which the Non-Avatar parent would produce Share this post Link to post
Posted May 27, 2014 I bred my Avatar of Creation with a Tri-Horn and got another Creation, even though Tri-Horns normally seem to produce Avatars of Change. So the offspring can definitely can go both ways: for anyone investigating. :3 Share this post Link to post
Posted May 27, 2014 I tried to breed my avatar to a rosebud and he refused her. As I noted in the main thread, it would be interesting to see some sort of spreadsheet/list indicating the breeding success rate for GoN and Avatar pairings. Share this post Link to post
Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Mine did. My creation bred a creation. http://dragcave.net/lineage/Q8sFy Excellent! Thank you for the info Edit: Also...-squeals- Edited May 27, 2014 by Wahya Share this post Link to post
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