Fangirls/Fanboys - Fandoms in General.

[Destiny Arts]

I like Supernatural! I am starting to have a big fandom for that show now haha.

[InugamiZERO]

I've never been in any fandom, there is just something wrong with them to me

I get loving something a great deal but what I don't get is why that means you have to hate the so called rival of what you love

 

I'm a fan of a lot of Books, Bands, Authors, Manga, Anime, Games and even Cartoons

I have everything My favourite Author Lynn Flewelling has released

 

 

some of the MLP fandom creeps me out but I still like the show

Yaoi fangirls scare the Hell out of me its like they don't care about the story or the characters and just want to see rutting so why don't they just go watch/read porn

I also hate fans who make excuses for their idols bad behaviour

 

 

I feel I need to add that I read Yaoi and the Yaoi fangirls I'm talking about are the ones who comment on a beautifully written manga then say this character should have done it with this and this and that guy, like they didn't care about the story at all

Edited May 19, 2014 by InugamiZERO

[Banyanpan]

I really hate it when shippers hate one of the girl/guys in a love triangle. Especially when it's a nice character who's only crime is being in love with the "wrong person". This is part of why yaoi fangirls scare me so much, and why I refuse to go anywhere near the shugo chara fandom ever again.

 

For fandoms I'm active in, I'm an "otaku" and that's about it. I've been to a few conventions, and have a few otaku friends. My favorite series is Madoka Magica. I have a lot to say about it's fans, but I'll save that for another rant.

I hate the fans who use random Japanese words in place of English words, the crazy shippers (all fandoms have them), and the Naruto fans. I also know what otaku means in Japanese, so I don't really like using it. I prefer to call myself an anime fan.

[octopi]

I feel like fandoms just get exponentially more obnoxious the bigger they are.

 

I think the thing is that there are lots of nice people in every fandom but then they usually stay within their groups and discuss it with other fans? And meanwhile the obsessed ones and jerks are going all like "SUPERWHOLOCK OMG SO GR8 EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH IT ALL THE OTHER SHOWS SUK" while running around in other people's spaces. So lots of people get bad impressions of other fandoms and are even more inclined to just stay in the few they are and not venture out and see other shows/games/whatever

[MichiyoSaitou]

I am an 'otaku' and yaoi fangirl myself, so I do not mind them for the most part. But of course it gets annoying/scary sometimes with people who are utterly obsessed to such an extent that it gets obnoxious and creepy. I would comment on certain kinds of fans, but I will keep my comments for myself.

 

I never labelled a fandom as 'good' or 'bad'. They are just fandoms to me, places where people discuss their common interest in an/a anime/manga/TV series/book/movie/game/etc. I never cared that much for the people who are in a certain fandom, to be honest. (But then again, I have only been active and interacted with people from one fandom, because that was the only anime I cared enough about.)

 

In my opinion, every fandom has their good and bad points, some simply have more than the others. As a general rule, any popular fandom is bound to have lots of obsessed fans, so I learnt to bear with them and overlook their presence. It is true that while some fandoms are full of these, there are fandoms which only have few, but that is quite the rarity when it comes to popular fandoms.

 

For example, in the anime and manga universe, I have seen numerous crazy fans and bad OCs in fandoms such as Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Death Note, Kuroshitsuji, and so on, while Attack on Titan, Another, and Ano Hi Mita no Hana no Namae wa Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai (AnoHana for short), all relatively recent shows that were popular and very appreciated at the time they aired, barely have any.

 

Overall, I have a neutral opinion of any fandom. Let them be crazy obsessed and such, it's not like I care or as if it affects me.

Edited May 19, 2014 by MichiyoSaitou

[Mondat]

I do not participate in fandom as much as other people.

There are plenty of things I like (tv shows, books, manga or anime) and I like to read discussions or reviews, but I have not much interest in fanfiction.

Writing fanfiction?

Ugh, I prefer to write my own stories with my own characters. I like creating things on my own.

Reading fanfiction?

Many of the stories I've ever read are kinda childish and always porn, porn, porn*yawns*. Some things are plain ridiculous to me...mpreg for example.

 

Overall I avoid people who show a rather great interest in everything Japanese and who use random Japanese words but cannot have a conversation.

Edited May 19, 2014 by Mondat

[grimace]

God this thread brings back memories

Anyone want to hear a really horrendous story from a con a few years ago?

[Ribombee]

I have quite a few interests, some of which are stronger than others. We all have things we get excited about, especially when we find others who share the same interests. I like anime, Korean dramas, British shows, and various other things. I've been a xenophile since a young age. I remember once meeting missionaries from Africa when I was in Sunday school, and I was completely fascinated when they served us a native African dish. I don't believe being a xenophile makes me better or worse than anyone else. I simply like what I like. I also lead a perfectly normal life in which I study, work, do research, cook dinner, clean the apartment, and so on.

 

The way I see it is this: if someone likes to learn Japanese/Korean/Spanish/insert language because they were inspired by a media they like, well there are certainly much worse things they could be doing. If people get a bit of a different cultural perspective by watching/reading media from another country, that's a good thing. Do some people take it too far? Certainly, but I've also seen a lot of people mellow out as they get older. Kids obsess over things. When I was young, my parents had to read me Goodnight Moon EVERY night. In junior high and high school, my sister and I watched Sailor Moon so often that my cockatiel learned to whistle the theme song (much to my father's dismay). We also watched The Princess Bride almost every day. We grew out of that. I still like Sailor Moon and The Princess Bride, but I no longer obsess over it. Give it time, and most people, I think, will eventually even out. In the mean time, if they bother you, avoid them. There will always be people in your life that you won't get along with. That's life.

 

Basically, I don't dislike any fandom. I used to avoid Naruto simply because the fans drove me crazy. Then I gave it a chance, and I found I liked the anime. I don't feel the need to bash any other fandom. People like things for different reasons. Everyone needs different things. As long as it makes someone happy and is not harming anyone (that's where I draw the line!), why does it honestly matter to me if someone loves a book or a singer I can't stand? I probably like something they can't stand, too. Rather than fighting about it, we should be finding things we DO have in common, or at the very least, just going our separate ways.

 

Now, obviously, joking around with friends is fine. I have a friend who likes Twilight. I can't stand it. She doesn't like anime. We play fight about it all the time, but we know it's all in good fun.

Edited May 28, 2014 by harlequinraven

[edwardelricfreak]

I am VERY much a hardcore brony (I do not acknowledge the term 'pegasister' because it sounds like it's trying too hard to be PC). I love ponies to death. I watch all the episodes more than once, I draw ponies, I collect the blind bag figurines, and I've even created a few pony characters as well as other characters based on creatures from the same universe.

 

As with any fandom, there are the obnoxious crazy people out there that give the entire fandom a bad rep. I hate it when bronies are attacked for liking a show, especially when they're guys. What's wrong with liking things? Who ever said that a guy can't like ____ or that a girl can't like ____? Drives me batty.

[octopi]

I am VERY much a hardcore brony (I do not acknowledge the term 'pegasister' because it sounds like it's trying too hard to be PC). I love ponies to death. I watch all the episodes more than once, I draw ponies, I collect the blind bag figurines, and I've even created a few pony characters as well as other characters based on creatures from the same universe.

 

As with any fandom, there are the obnoxious crazy people out there that give the entire fandom a bad rep. I hate it when bronies are attacked for liking a show, especially when they're guys. What's wrong with liking things? Who ever said that a guy can't like ____ or that a girl can't like ____? Drives me batty.

...The thing with bronies though is that a lot of them actually are awful people. Moreso than other fandoms. Like, people in the MLP fandom have been harrassed, insulted, and even physically attacked by hardcore bronies. Also many of them are putting incredibly NSFW content on the internet where they can be easily found by children, aka the actual intended audience of the show. It's not that people don't want to see men liking a girl's show, it's that they're corrupting the show's message and pushing out the girls from a space that is supposed to be positive and safe for them. It's kind of like how sometimes people go "ugh, men", you know? Obviously men aren't awful just by virtue of being men, but there are enough awful ones that a lot of women really don't want to take their chances.

 

There's nothing wrong with liking anything but when you're a judgemental a-hole to other people who like it, that's really not cool. And this happens on a huge scale in the MLP fandom and even the people who don't contribute just sort of stand there and say nothing, which is honestly pretty awful as well.

[demonicvampiregirl]

Not sure if many of you are familiar with all the different Kpop fandoms, but recently the fandom for the Kpop group "Exo" (commonly known as Exotics) got banned from watching Exo preform live at the weekly music shows because they were breaking rules and putting people's live in danger. They were filming performances and taking photos when it's against the rules and continued to do so even after being told to stop. They were also running into the road to chase after Exo's van when they left the building. This was happening on a regular basis, so they successfully became the first fandom banned from watching the live shows.

After they were banned, many of them snuck into the shows by claiming to be fans of other artists preforming, then proceeded to boo the artists they claimed to be fans of.

 

Here's an article that explains most of what happened: Link

 

Anyway, as an avid Kpopper, but by no means an Exotic, I'm rather upset and saddened by this. Upset because the fans are failing to realize that the image of their idol group is tarnished by the actions of their fans. If Exotics weren't notorious for being crazy, I'd probably like Exo a lot more than I do. Don't get me wrong, I think Exo is a very talented group and I really like some of their music, but I just can't get into them as much as I do other groups because I don't want to labeled as an "Exotic." Plus, Exo was probably very embarrassed by their fans and maybe felt awkward when they had nobody to cheer them on during the live show. I just think the fans that broke the rules should really not be calling themselves fans at all because they were not considering the effect it would have on their idols. And I am also saddened because when they snuck into the live shows after being banned, they stole the seats of true fans of the other artists. That's just wrong.

 

Anyway, feel free to discuss if you want. ^-^

I am apart of the EXO fandom and that day hearing all those fan accounts drove me NUTS. I was so upset over how they acted. I really do wonder what is going through their heads when they do this kind of thing.

 

They have done other stuff to that is just as bad as this and it gets very old hearing these stories. You have no idea how embarrassed I feel when I read stories like this and I'm in the same fandom they are in.

[Sockrael]

I at first didn't understand fandoms until I actually became a fan girl. Compared to my past perspective, I can see why some people freak out about new releases for bands and shows, but I still don't understand why people would devote their entire life to it. Given, almost no one would know what I am a fangirl of, or understand it, so I typically don't state my fandom. It seems a bit confusing to me what extents some fangirls/fanboys will go to.

[edwardelricfreak]

...The thing with bronies though is that a lot of them actually are awful people. Moreso than other fandoms. Like, people in the MLP fandom have been harrassed, insulted, and even physically attacked by hardcore bronies. Also many of them are putting incredibly NSFW content on the internet where they can be easily found by children, aka the actual intended audience of the show. It's not that people don't want to see men liking a girl's show, it's that they're corrupting the show's message and pushing out the girls from a space that is supposed to be positive and safe for them. It's kind of like how sometimes people go "ugh, men", you know? Obviously men aren't awful just by virtue of being men, but there are enough awful ones that a lot of women really don't want to take their chances.

 

There's nothing wrong with liking anything but when you're a judgemental a-hole to other people who like it, that's really not cool. And this happens on a huge scale in the MLP fandom and even the people who don't contribute just sort of stand there and say nothing, which is honestly pretty awful as well.

Sure, okay, but that has nothing to do with them being a brony.

 

Being a jerk and being a member of the fandom are independent of one another. Yes, you can be a jerk member of the fandom, but that doesn't mean everyone in that fandom is like that.

 

I'm well aware that some hardcore fans assault and harass other members. It happens in EVERY fandom and even things that aren't fandoms including religious and dietary/lifestyle groups (like hardcore vegans).

 

As far as NSFW goes, every fandom does it. It's called Rule 34 for a reason. There's plenty of NSFW Mario, Pokemon, heck even Sesame Street.

 

 

So please, ignore that they're bronies. It sounds like you're specifically picking them out of every other fandom when they're pretty much just like every other one. Maybe the one major difference is that it's reported that males of all ages (particularly older ones, but there are plenty of younger children too) that happen to like it because it's a "girl's show". It's target audience is younger girls, but that means literally nothing.

[Switch]

The way I see it is that so many of the awful people in the MLP fandoms are the ones that call themselves Bronies, to the point that for many people, including me, it's become synonymous with those gross men in the MLP fandom that make it an unsafe space for young girls and other people. I'm sorry but if you call yourself a Brony I am immediately alarmed. You can be a fan of MLP without being a Brony. Honestly, too many of them are just flat out dangerous people.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Switch

[edwardelricfreak]

Considering that I know many other bronies who are completely normal and nice people, I don't buy that. Again, it's always the crazies that are the loudest and most notorious, which gives the rest a bad rep.

 

And why can't they be called bronies? It's like calling a fan of Star Trek a Trekkie/Trekker, or a fan of Doctor Who a Whovian.

 

MLP just has a specific name for the fans like some other fandoms have. It's not that big a deal.

[Switch]

Again, the problem is that Brony has become synonymous to many with those terrible people and those terrible people, even if they're the minority, have made nearly the entirety of the fandom a toxic environment.

There are certainly bad people in other fandoms, but Bronies are the worst case I and many other people have seen. They've gone beyond annoying fans. Many of them are legitimately dangerous people and there are far too many horror stories about them at this point to just ignore them because "sometimes people in other fandoms are annoying sometimes."

At this point you really can't just go "Not all bronies." Like I said, I'm sorry, but until the problem is no longer widespread I will continue being immediately alarmed by self-identified Bronies unless they prove to be decent people later on because I cannot help but associate that word with the awful, dangerous people that too many of them are.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Switch

[Tehpikachu]

Not to mention, the term "brony" is very much misogynistic. The show is made for little girls, and don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with liking the show at any age, but the term was coined because you older men wanted a term that still sounded "manly", or at least to be disassociated with females.

And because of this attitude, many of the bronies are awful, terrible people. If you like MLP and you're not awful, I always suggest stop associating yourself with that group, because chances are, you don't know the history behind the name.

[Switch]

Not to mention, the term "brony" is very much misogynistic. The show is made for little girls, and don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with liking the show at any age, but the term was coined because you older men wanted a term that still sounded "manly", or at least to be disassociated with females.

And because of this attitude, many of the bronies are awful, terrible people. If you like MLP and you're not awful, I always suggest stop associating yourself with that group, because chances are, you don't know the history behind the name.

Yeah this is also a thing. A lot of people I know have dropped associations with the term (including me) because of this and earlier mentioned problems, which I think is just for the best really. Sad state of affairs.

[edwardelricfreak]

I refuse to not call myself a brony because it's a defining part of me. I'm sorry that you've had terrible experiences with some horrible people in the past who happened to be a part of the fandom, but you are definitely wrong in that I can't say "not all bronies" because not every brony is a bad person. At this point, you're beginning to stereotype all bronies as those monsters you've dealt with, when in fact there are perfectly nice bronies.

 

But now of course because you can't see to trust any bronies at all, it makes me feel awful because it means you don't like me for being what I am. I'm not saying you're personally targeting me, but you said you associate all bronies with those horrible people. You've judged every brony before knowing them, instead of the other way around.

 

I advise you to instead NOT associate every brony with the horrible people within the fandom. They are NOT all like that. You're judging them all first. If they happen to mention they're bronies, it raises red flags, and that's a problem. I strongly suggest getting over that, fast. It's how stereotypes and prejudice are born.

 

I can tell you're not a bad person, and I really am sorry you had to put up with some horrible people, but you're falling into a nasty habit yourself. :c

 

Tehpikachu: brony is about as manly and misogynistic as "guy" or "dude" is. They might have started out being male-centric, but it's not wrong to say "hey guys!" to your group of female friends or say "dude" to a girl. Granted, I wish there were more "female" terms to use for males but we just haven't gotten to that mindset yet.

 

And wow, nice to know that because I want to be known as a brony that I'm suddenly awful. :\ I'm not going to just "drop the term" or stop associating myself because like it or not, I'm fine with the term and the community that I know. I want to call myself a brony because I am one, but if that means I'm going to be viewed as horrible, then fine. Not my problem because I know I'm not horrible.

 

EDIT: I'm also female. I don't like the term because it's "manly", I like the term because it's short and fitting. I like the term and being referred to as a brony. I don't much care for the term "pegasister" though, although if someone wants to be called one then I will call them that (but internally I will probably still consider them a brony). I just don't like the term all that much and don't want to be known as one.

Edited May 29, 2014 by edwardelricfreak

[Switch]

We're just gonna have to agree to disagree, because at this point in time I can't ignore the negative connotations that identifying as a Brony inherently carries. I'm sure you're a nice person as well, but the term makes me highly uncomfortable and I personally believe it's justified.

[Tehpikachu]

{@Switch}

when in fact there are perfectly nice bronies.

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Tehpikachu: brony is about as manly and misogynistic as "guy" or "dude" is. They might have started out being male-centric, but it's not wrong to say "hey guys!" to your group of female friends or say "dude" to a girl. Granted, I wish there were more "female" terms to use for males but we just haven't gotten to that mindset yet.

 

And wow, nice to know that because I want to be known as a brony that I'm suddenly awful. :\ I'm not going to just "drop the term" or stop associating myself because like it or not, I'm fine with the term and the community that I know. I want to call myself a brony because I am one, but if that means I'm going to be viewed as horrible, then fine. Not my problem because I know I'm not horrible.

First part:

Yes, I understand and I know what you're talking about. I used to call myself a brony and I used to think like you. If they are as nice and good as you say, then they are not bronies at all, they're just MLP fans.

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Part directed at me:

Nonononono. That simile doesn't work. "dude" and "guy" are taking something that used to belong to strictly males, the ones who are in positions of power, and making it into something that anyone can use.

"Brony" is taking something from females, who don't get cool things targeted to them often enough, ESPECIALLY little girls, and making it so it's only for males.

[edwardelricfreak]

No, they are bronies. There are good bronies and bad bronies. Well, more specifically, good people who are bronies and bad people who happen to be bronies. The brony fandom is huge, so while that means there's a large part of bad people within it, it doesn't mean they outnumber the good. But it's much easier to get stuck in the "bad" area because it's so large (but definitely not larger than the good).

 

That's like saying someone isn't a Trekkie or a Whovian or a vegan just because one part of the group is good and the other is bad.

 

I'm going to call myself a brony. I DON'T think it's misogynistic. I DON'T think it's "taking" anything from any girls. It was originally intended as the term for the male fans, but it can and is applied to female fans as well (may or may not be the little girls the show is targeting). Some females choose to refer to themselves as pegasisters instead and there's nothing wrong with that (though I consider them just more bronies, but that's me).

 

Also "positions of power". Now this is starting to sound like a feminist discussion. Yes, women are still definitely not fully equal to men, not even in the US, but can we not delve into that argument? That comment was unnecessary imho. :U

[Tehpikachu]

When you talk of bronies, it's hard not to cross into feminist discussion.

 

Also, I wouldn't drag those other fandoms into this, considering their names don't have the same male-centric implications. Or even vegans. These events are isolated.

 

In any case, I think I'm about done here. I've made my point, so there's not really else for me to discuss without reiterating my point over. I hope that someone comes along who can explain it better to you, because I'm not really the person.

[edwardelricfreak]

Then what about Muslims? I see them all being treated like every last one is a terrorist or at least a bad person, even though they're not all terrible people. I've met nice Muslims before. They just have a bad reputation because of some terrible extremist groups within the religion.

 

But okay, whatevs. I don't think I can change anyone's mind here about bronies. If you (general anyone) believe they're all terrible people, then I'm sorry you feel that way. It doesn't change who I am, though, and I hope this doesn't mean you will hate anything I do or say. :c

 

I really think that kind of mindset is what births prejudice, but okay. Regardless of brony discussion, this fits for any fandom.

[Tehpikachu]

Haha wow.

Oh my god.

Amazing.

Incredible

Astounding.

Racism = Not liking a fandom now

 

[clap clap]

10/10 argument, would not participate again.