Posted June 21, 2013 I wanted to report another 'glitched' egg: This should be red but I got a brown one. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 21, 2013 https://i.imgur.com/ifVJeVk.jpg I put this together to try and visualize how I want to do a PB project. Am I suicidal? Maybe. Still not really satisfied with the way the colors are blended, though. I'd like a smoother transition from red down to green. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 21, 2013 I bet that'll look amazing when it's done. I really like the mix of colors that you've got going so far. c: Coppers are really neat because they have such a different blend of colors than any of the other dragons in the cave. It's too bad that they're so uncommon right now because there are loads of unique and beautiful lineages that could be done with them. Personally, I'd like to do Green Copper x Guardian, but that's my only pair at the moment. I have a couple more old Guardians I can use, but I'm fresh out of Green Coppers. I'm certainly hoping for "amazing" and not "big horrible mess"! If you want, I can probably breed you a couple of eggs - I have two male verdigris Coppers and some "old" Guardians I can try them with. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Bumping with another breeding update: Verdigris from this pairing, but tarnished from this pairing. Also, happy to gift both of these - they were experiments and I already have a sibling of the verdigris. Send me a PM if you want one! ETA: Verdigris is gone. ETA2: Tarnished is gone. Edited June 24, 2013 by Amazon_warrior Share this post Link to post
Posted June 24, 2013 Very pretty, Amazon. So, both times you bred Catch a Copper with Penny Silver you got a verdigris? Hmm. Verrrrrrrry interesting. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 24, 2013 Very pretty, Amazon. So, both times you bred Catch a Copper with Penny Silver you got a verdigris? Hmm. Verrrrrrrry interesting. Yeah - weird, huh? I tried the other pairing as a control, and they performed as expected. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 25, 2013 Finally bred a rainbow one! I bred every color copper I had and kept getting browns.. http://dragcave.net/lineage/Xmjf3 Share this post Link to post
Posted June 25, 2013 Just putting this up for your viewing pleasure: Rainbow Nebs and Copper Pretty, huh? Share this post Link to post
Posted June 26, 2013 Just putting this up for your viewing pleasure: Rainbow Nebs and Copper Pretty, huh? That's lovely! Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 Anther breeding, and got another LoS egg that should have been rainbow. I'll just have to see what I end up with over time! Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 The blue-green copper females look really good with Blusangs. If anyone wants to contribute to this, feel free ;3 Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 The blue-green copper females look really good with Blusangs. If anyone wants to contribute to this, feel free ;3 omg i've got two 2G mates for that exact checker growing rn lets do a swap some time <3 my black tip x female brown copper checker Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 my black tip x female brown copper checker oh this looks pretty! Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 Every time I think I have a good grasp on how the coppers work for breeding, something happens that I didn't expect. Like with this egg that I thought was supposed to be green but instead is red? With this lineage everything to the third gen bred just like I expected. 4th Gen is throwing me a bit. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 Every time I think I have a good grasp on how the coppers work for breeding, something happens that I didn't expect. Like with this egg that I thought was supposed to be green but instead is red? With this lineage everything to the third gen bred just like I expected. 4th Gen is throwing me a bit. A few of us have had similar seemingly "wrong" results - I don't know if anyone's figured out why yet... Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 One thing I seem to be seeing is, whatever color they breed once, they will continue to breed that color. So it still doesn't look random. It just seems to be skipping a rule. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 Another exception: http://dragcave.net/lineage/yGo9m That should have been Green, right? Has someone collected all the odd 3rd gens in one place? And has this been brought to TJ's attention? Cheers! C4. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 28, 2013 Biome of egg Biome of mother Breed of male copper parent Breed of female copper parent Random (should never happen) Ok, here is exactly what the rules are regarding breeding coppers. This is directly from TJ. As far as I know, bred dragons do not have biomes, nor do dragons stolen before biomes were implemented, nor prize dragons. So, as you can see, random should never happen. I paraphrased this earlier, but here is the direct quote. So color of copper eggs is determined first what biome the egg is picked up in for CB, then the biome of the mother if the egg is bred, then if she has no biome, it's the breed (color) of the copper father, then it's the breed of the copper mother. So, I don't know why Amazon's was green. It's not supposed to be, but that's what it seems like it's doing for 3rd and higher gens. C4. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) - Biome of egg - Biome of mother - Breed of male copper parent - Breed of female copper parent - Random (should never happen) How do you guys understand these rules? Should each line correspond to one generation, like this: - CB copper: Biome of egg - 2nd gen copper: Biome of mother - 3rd gen copper: Breed of male copper parent - 4th gen copper: Breed of female copper parent Because as it is now, without any context, that doesn't make much sense to me. How can you have "Breed of male copper parent" and "Breed of female copper parent" as equivalent factors? Is it 50 percent chance for "female copper parent" being decisive, and 50 percent for "male copper parent"? Summing up: the "rules" given by TJ are unclear and allow for different interpretetions. Unless there was some context in which they were given, but I cannot find it anywhere in this thread. Edited June 29, 2013 by lorimmel Share this post Link to post
Posted June 29, 2013 How do you guys understand these rules? Should each line correspond to one generation, like this: - CB copper: Biome of egg - 2nd gen copper: Biome of mother - 3rd gen copper: Breed of male copper parent - 4th gen copper: Breed of female copper parent Because as it is now, without any context, that doesn't make much sense to me. How can you have "Breed of male copper parent" and "Breed of female copper parent" as equivalent factors? Is it 50 percent chance for "female copper parent" being decisive, and 50 percent for "male copper parent"? Summing up: the "rules" given by TJ are unclear and allow for different interpretetions. Unless there was some context in which they were given, but I cannot find it anywhere in this thread. Originally, I took it to mean that for each egg, the first criterion that is valid applies, like a set of if statements. That is: If the egg was caught in a biome, it is the color of that biome Else if the mother was caught in a biome, it is the color of that biome Else if the male parent is a Copper, it is his color Else if the female parent is a Copper, it is her color Else, it is a random color - this should never happen, because the above statements cover all possible situations. I'm pretty sure that Fiona assumed the same as me, based on the way she's talked about these rules. Either this assumption was wrong, or something is wrong with the coding. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 29, 2013 Originally, I took it to mean that for each egg, the first criterion that is valid applies, like a set of if statements. That is:If the egg was caught in a biome, it is the color of that biome Else if the mother was caught in a biome, it is the color of that biome Else if the male parent is a Copper, it is his color Else if the female parent is a Copper, it is her color Else, it is a random color - this should never happen, because the above statements cover all possible situations. I'm pretty sure that Fiona assumed the same as me, based on the way she's talked about these rules. Either this assumption was wrong, or something is wrong with the coding. That's how I understood it, too. Share this post Link to post
Posted June 29, 2013 - Else if the male parent is a Copper, it is his color - Else if the female parent is a Copper, it is her color Maybe if both parents are coppers, it's fifty-fifty chance? Would this explain the "unexplained" egg colors? Share this post Link to post
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