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Add 2 more Turpentine x Golden Wyvern refusals to the list!

 

That brings us up to what, 12 or 14 refusals and 0 successes?

 

Cheers!

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I have 4 refusals, 1 no interest and 1 egg.

 

Refusals were: turpentine x white, turpentine x ember, turpentine x black, turpentine x winter magi.

No interest was: turpentine x shadow walker

Egg was: turpentine x thunder

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I have tried to breed 4 Turps so far:

 

Turp x GW = refusal

Turp x Neo = 1 refusal and 1 success

Turp x Flamingo = refusal

Edited by drabrugon

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I've gotten refusals with a Golden Wyvern, a Heartseeker, and both my Winter Magi so far, but I also got three successes with my CB gold, one of my CB silvers, and a Shadow Walker.

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Compilation

Data source: All posts in this thread up to this post.

  • albino: 4 total; 50% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (1 unspecified, 1 turp))

  • balloon: 4 total; 25% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 3 (2 eggs (2 turp), 1 no interest)

  • black: 54 total; 35% refusal

    refusals: 19 | successes: 35 (28 eggs (23 turp, 3 black, 2 unspecified), 2 no egg, 5 no interest)

  • bluna / two-finned bluna: 1 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 no interest)

  • bbw / bright-breasted wyvern: 11 total; 18% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 9 (6 eggs (6 turp), 2 no interest, 1 no egg)

  • canopy: 4 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 4 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 canopy))

  • copper (total): 2 total: 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 eggs (1 turp), 1 no egg)

    • copper (verdigris): 2 total: 0% refusal

      refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 eggs (1 turp), 1 no egg)

  • daydream: 4 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 4 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 daydream))

  • deepsea: 3 total; 33% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (1 turp, 1 unspecified))

  • dorsal (total): 8 total; 25% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 dorsal), 1 no egg, 1 no interest)

    • dorsal (purple): 4 total; 25% refusal

      refusals: 1 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (2 turp, 1 dorsal))

    • dorsal (red): 4 total; 25% refusal

      refusals: 1 | successes: 3 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no egg, 1 no interest)

  • electric: 23 total; 13% refusal

    refusals: 3 | successes: 20 (16 eggs (12 turp, 2 unspecified, 2 electric), 1 no egg, 3 no interest)

  • ember: 6 total; 33% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 4 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 ember))

  • flamingo: 8 total; 25% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 6 (5 eggs (4 turp, 1 flamingo), 1 no egg)

  • frill: 5 total; 40% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 3 (2 no interest, 1 egg (1 turp))

  • gold (metallic): 48 total; 15% refusal

    refusals: 7 | successes: 41 (33 eggs (29 turp, 4 unspecified), 4 no interest, 4 no egg)

  • gold wyvern: 165 total; 32% refusal

    refusals: 52 | successes: 113 (85 eggs (76 turp, 6 gold wyvern, 3 unspecified), 20 no interest, 8 no egg)

  • green / earth / pebble: 2 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp))

  • greenwing / spotted greenwing: 7 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 7 (5 eggs (2 unspecified, 2 turp, 1 greenwing), 2 no interest)

  • guardian: 31 total; 65% refusal

    refusals: 20 | successes: 11 (5 eggs (4 guardian, 1 turp), 5 no interest, 1 no egg)

  • harvest: 23 total; 26% refusal

    refusals: 6 | successes: 17 (16 eggs (9 turp, 5 harvest, 2 unspecified), 1 no interest)

  • heartseeker / valentine 2012: 19 total; 37% refusal

    refusals: 7 | successes: 12 (9 eggs (9 turp), 2 no interest, 1 no egg)

  • hellfire: 10 total; 40% refusal

    refusals: 4 | successes: 6 (6 eggs (5 turp, 1 unspecified))

  • holly / christmas 2007: 2 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 no egg, 1 no interest)

  • horse: 2 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no egg)

  • ice: 1 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 unspecified))

  • lumina: 19 total; 11% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 17 (14 eggs (11 lumina, 3 turp), 2 no interest, 1 no egg)

  • magi / orange: 14 total; 43% refusal

    refusals: 6 | successes: 8 (7 eggs (5 turp, 1 unspecified, 1 magi), 1 no interest)

  • magma: 9 total; 22% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 7 (7 eggs (7 turp))

  • marrow / halloween 2010: 28 total; 21% refusal

    refusals: 6 | successes: 22 (17 eggs (17 turp), 4 no egg, 1 no interest)

  • mint / light green: 1 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

  • moonstone: 60 total; 82% refusal

    refusals: 49 | successes: 11 (11 eggs (7 turp, 4 moonstone))

    Note: Moonstones had zero reported successes before this post (Jun 10 2012), at which point they had accrued 46 refusals.

  • nebula (total): 25 total; 24% refusal

    refusals: 6 | successes: 19 (13 eggs (11 turp, 1 nebula, 1 unspecified), 2 no egg, 4 no interest)

    • nebula (unspecified): 10 total; 20% refusal

      refusals: 2 | successes: 8 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 unspecified), 2 no egg, 2 no interest)

    • nebula ("non-alt"): 3 total; 67% refusal

      refusals: 2 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

      • nebula (purple): 2 total; 50% refusal

        refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

      • nebula (blue): 1 total; 100% refusal

        refusals: 1 | successes: 0

    • nebula ("alt"): 12 total; 17% refusal

      refusals: 2 | successes: 10 (8 eggs (7 turp, 1 nebula), 2 no interest)

      • nebula (red/orange): 5 total; 20% refusal

        refusals: 1 | successes: 4 (2 eggs (1 turp, 1 nebula), 2 no interest)

      • nebula (green): 5 total; 0% refusal

        refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (5 turp))

      • nebula (unspecified "alt"): 2 total; 50% refusal

        refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

  • neotropical: 9 total; 33% refusal

    refusals: 3 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (2 turp, 1 neotropical, 1 unspecified), 2 no interest)

  • nocturne / limestone: 4 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 4 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 unspecified))

  • pillow: 6 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (2 turp, 2 unspecified), 2 no interest)

  • pink / pale pink: 1 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

  • purple: 2 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no interest)

  • red: 7 total; 29% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (3 red, 2 turp))

  • ribbon dancer / christmas 2010: 5 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (5 turp))

  • ridgewing (total): 386 total; 94% refusal (see 'Note')

    refusals: 364 | successes: 22 (18 eggs (8 ridgewings, 9 turp, 1 unspecified), 3 no interest, 1 no egg)

    Note: Ridgewings (total) had zero reported successes before this post (Jun 10 2012), at which point they had accrued 356 refusals.

    • ridgewing (unspecified): 253 total; 98% refusal

      refusals: 247 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 ridgewing), 1 no interest, 1 no egg)

      Note: Up until Jun 10 2012, this section accrued 242 refusals.

    • ridgewing (tan): 53 total; 94% refusal

      refusals: 50 | successes: 3 (2 eggs (1 ridgewing, 1 unspecified), 1 no interest)

      Note: Up until Jun 10 2012, this section accrued 47 refusals.

    • ridgewing (purple): 80 total; 84% refusal

      refusals: 67 | successes: 13 (12 eggs (6 turp, 6 ridgewing), 1 no interest)

      Note: Up until Jun 10 2012, this section accrued 67 refusals.

  • royal blue: 19 total; 16% refusal

    refusals: 3 | successes: 16 (9 eggs (9 turp), 4 no interest, 3 no egg)

  • rosebud / valentine 2011: 9 total; 11% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 8 (4 eggs (4 turp), 3 no egg, 1 no interest)

  • seasonal (total): 19 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 12+7 (15 eggs (12 turp, 2 seasonal, 1 unspecified), 4 no interest)

    • seasonal (unspecified): 7 total; 0% refusal

      refusals: 0 | successes: 7 (7 egg (5 turp, 2 seasonal))

    • seasonal (autumn): 2 total; 0% refusal

      refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no interest)

    • seasonal (spring): 5 total; 0% refusal

      refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 unspecified), 1 no interest)

    • seasonal (summer): 2 total; 0% refusal

      refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (1 egg (1 turp), 1 no interest)

    • seasonal (winter): 3 total; 0% refusal

      refusals: 0 | successes: 3 (2 eggs (2 turp), 1 no interest)

  • shadow walker / halloween 2011: 18 total; 22% refusal

    refusals: 4 | successes: 14 (10 eggs (8 turp, 2 unspecified), 4 no interest)

  • shallow water: 6 total; 33% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 4 (3 eggs (2 shallow water, 1 turp), 1 no interest)

  • silver (metallic): 22 total; 18% refusal

    refusals: 4 | successes: 18 (16 eggs (10 turp, 3 unspecified, 3 silver), 2 no interest)

  • skywing: 2 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp))

  • snow angel / christmas 2009: 5 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (4 eggs (4 turp), 1 no egg)

  • spitfire: 25 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 25 (20 eggs (16 turp, 4 spitfire), 4 no interest, 1 no egg)

  • stone: 6 total; 17% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (4 turp, 1 stone))

  • storm / grey / gray: 6 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 6 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 storm), 2 no interest)

  • stripe (total): 31 total; 23% refusal

    refusals: 7 | successes: 24 (20 eggs (13 turp, 4 unspecified, 3 black stripe), 4 no interest)

    • stripe (unspecified): 16 total; 25% refusal

      refusals: 4 | successes: 12 (10 eggs (4 turp, 4 unspecified, 2 black stripe), 2 no interest)

    • stripe (white): 11 total; 18% refusal

      refusals: 2 | successes: 9 (7 eggs (7 turp), 2 no interest)

    • stripe (black): 2 total; 50% refusal

      refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

    • stripe (red): 3 total; 33% refusal

      refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (2 egg (1 stripe, 1 turp))

    • stripe (green): 1 total; 100% refusal

      refusals: 1 | successes: 0

  • sunrise: 2 total; 50% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

  • sunset: 3 total; 33% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp))

  • sunsong: 6 total; 50% refusal

    refusals: 3 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (2 turp, 1 sunsong))

  • sunstone: 5 total; 40% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 3 (2 eggs (2 turp), 1 no interest)

  • swallowtail: 5 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (5 eggs (2 turp, 2 swallowtail, 1 unspecified))

  • sweetling / valentine 2010: 7 total; 29% refusal

    refusals: 2 | successes: 5 (3 eggs (3 turp), 2 no egg)

  • tangar (gold-horned tangar): 9 total; 11% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 8 (4 eggs (3 turp, 1 tangar), 3 no interest, 1 no egg)

  • terrae: 6 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 6 (6 eggs (4 turp, 1 terrae, 1 unspecified))

  • thunder: 28 total; 21% refusal

    refusals: 6 | successes: 22 (17 eggs (14 turp, 2 unspecified, 1 thunder), 4 no interest, 1 no egg(?))

  • tinsel / prize (total): 35 total; 91% refusal

    refusals: 32 | successes: 3 (3 egg (2 turp, 1 tinsel))

    • tinsel / prize (gold): 19 total; 58% refusal

      refusals: 11 | successes: 8 (6 egg (4 turp, 2 tinsel), 1 no interest, 1 no egg)

    • tinsel / prize (silver): 12 total; 83% refusal

      refusals: 10 | successes: 2 (2 egg (2 turp))

    • tinsel / prize (bronze): 12 total; 92% refusal

      refusals: 11 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

  • turpentine: 98 total; 19% refusal

    refusals: 19 | successes: 79 (72 eggs, 5 no interest, 2 no egg)

  • ultraviolet: 3 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (3 ultraviolet))

  • valentine / valentine 2009: 3 total; 33% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp))

  • vine: 5 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 5 (3 eggs (2 turp, 1 vine), 1 no egg, 1 no interest)

  • water: 2 total; 50% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 turp))

  • waterhorse: 1 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 no interest)

  • water walker: 1 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 1 (1 egg (1 unspecified))

  • waverunner: 4 total; 25% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (2 turp, 1 waverunner))

  • whiptail: 3 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 3 (3 eggs (2 whiptail, 1 turp))

  • white: 3 total; 33% refusal

    refusals: 1 | successes: 2 (1 no egg, 1 no interest)

  • winter magi / christmas 2011: 13 (+1(?)) total; 38-42% refusal

    refusals: 5 (+1(?)) | successes: 8 (8 eggs (8 turp))

  • yulebuck / christmas 2008: 2 total; 0% refusal

    refusals: 0 | successes: 2 (2 eggs (2 turp))

heads-up:

info:

a) 'Unspecified' egg mentions are probably turpentine eggs. They're from when people say 'got an egg' without specifying a lineage link (that was still working @ 03JUN2012) or species.

B) Similarly, species with '(unspecified)' mean that no further information about them was mentioned - e.g. saying 'ridgewing' is unclear whether tan or purple ridgewings were used.

c) I group 'no interest' and 'no egg' to success since such feedback means the mentioned pair will never refuse each other.

d) I'd like to shy away from interpretations, but: It's reasonably safe to say any sample size under 20 attempts probably holds no informational value.

 

stats may also be inaccurate because:

a) some people only post their positive results and don't specify their negative results; additionally, I recommend generally assuming the ratio of successes in this thread is slightly higher than it truly is in the wild, as people are more likely to report successes here

B) not everyone who plays the game understands the difference between 'no egg', 'no interest' and 'refusal'.

c) I find it impossible to distinguish, within specific reassurances from people that pairings work ('i tried 2 turp x gold and got one turp'), between pairs that were already reported in a different post prior and a new report; so they've been counted as a new report throughout.

d) reports without exact amounts have not been considered (e.g. "i've had successes with..." or "tried all of mine, all refusals")

e) 1 no interest and 1 no egg may occasionally be a double-counted 'no interest'; some people use the term 'no interest, no egg' to refer to this state, and it was not always discernable if they were referring to a single breed set or two separate ones.

f) 'successful' reports have been taken to mean 'gotten an egg'

g) I count manually; I'm only human ;)

re: specific posts:

a) majors reported 'And 26 no interests' in context of a successful turp+nocturne breeding, I was unsure whether that was literal (and if so, specific to nocturnes), so I have not included it

B) I took "amber" to mean "gold wyvern"

c) I took "sw" to mean "shadow walker"

 

 

 

 

 

[--old post--]

 

From what I've seen so far from people posting about their breeding successes (mainly in the news thread), I'm hazarding the guess that rares are less likely or normally likely to refuse turpentines. I wonder if that's to reduce frustration trying to pair them with rares? Or if it just means the sample I've seen is slanted for some reason... (like the very likely 'too early to tell' reason, cough).

 

Exciting!

 

Can't wait for mine to grow up so I can contribute some data. :D

Edited by pinkgothic

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Just tried 4 Turpentine x GW pairings. All refused.

 

Methinks this pairing isn't actually possible looking at everyone's results.

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turpentine X turpentine: success (turp egg.)

turpentine X White stripe : success (turp egg)

turpentine X Black : no egg

turpentine X Gold : no egg

 

Update:

 

turpentine X GW: refusal

turpentine X GW: refusal

Edited by _Z_

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turpentine X turpentine: success

turpentine X turpentine: success

 

Re-posted my results in this thread for ease of finding. smile.gif

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I'm thinking besides the eggs i'll be TRYING to distribute to Breeding, gifting I'm going to try all of mine with various CB GW << just to see if I can break the trend! Probably going to be a futile adventure though....

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updated to here

 

edit - for better stats, can people who have a successful clutch list what egg type they got please smile.gif

 

unless ya'll think that stat isn't necessary unsure.gif

 

 

2x edit - add two more refusals to the GW list.

Edited by Red2111

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Gold x turp - no egg

 

Marrow x turp - turpentine egg

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Turp x Turp = Turp egg.

 

smile.gif I'm glad to see it's possible to breed them to something besides other Turpentines.

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Turp x Black Marrow = Egg

Turp x Gold = Egg

3 Turps x 3 GWs = Refusal

 

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I bred my only adult (female) with a marrow and got a nice turpie egg biggrin.gif

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Got two turp eggs from electric breedings.

1 successful Turp XTurp breeding.

And a GW X turp along with an electric X turp refusal

 

 

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