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THANK YOU for this brilliantly informative guide. I tried exactly two experiments last year; one dodged, and the other was revived as its original form. I didn't have the heart to try any others.

 

Given my significant lack of success with things like summoning dry.gif , I highly doubt that I'll have much more success with my zombie experimentation this year, but at least I'll know I'm going about it the most effective way.

 

(I'm going to avoid looking at the kill message this time around. I know it's ridiculous but after last year I just... can't... do it!)

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Haloclimb, all I've ever heard about zombies out of season that involved any backing at all, of any kind, involved people explaining that they'd never seen one created on any date but at Halloween.

 

I haven't been on much for a while, and something may have changed in the interim, but while a number of people have claimed it's possible, various people tried back before there was a kill limit and went through a whole swack of dragons with no success, so I'd say, in view of this, that if it really is possible to make Zombies year round, the odds are so low that it would appear that nobody's ever done it.

 

If anyone actually HAS, it would be great to see a link put up somewhere, with the date.

tikigirl91 put one up in the holiday FAQ thread in help:

 

user posted image

 

I was fascinated. It isn't TJ's, either.

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I do remember that some of the tips to Zombying was to choose dragons with low views and clicks, and to also choose younger dragons so they are less likely to dodge the knife. I can't remember if it referred to the Kill though. But I've been creating some Zombie fodder and I'm making sure that the adults all have less than 2,000 views. The ones I have are in the upper 1,000.

 

I plan on timing out and view bombing all the hatchlings so they won't take up kill slots. I just have to figure out when to start. Not sure how many I'll try and create. I like the Zombies wandering around all over my scroll. They only do it at night and they're fun smile.gif

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tikigirl91 put one up in the holiday FAQ thread in help:

 

-snip-

 

I was fascinated. It isn't TJ's, either.

Very interesting. I can't quite call that definitive proof (I could personally edit a screenshot to look like that, very easily), but certainly closer. If we could only find that hatchie's page...

 

Added the V/UV/Clicks as a rumor. Never heard of it myself before, but it seems a fair few have.

 

@LibbyLishly: Glad this helped! And good luck!

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Very interesting. I can't quite call that definitive proof (I could personally edit a screenshot to look like that, very easily), but certainly closer. If we could only find that hatchie's page...

 

Added the V/UV/Clicks as a rumor. Never heard of it myself before, but it seems a fair few have.

 

@LibbyLishly: Glad this helped! And good luck!

lol, it isn't edited. I didn't post the hatchie's page because we aren't allowed to post others' dragons on the forum. I will gladly PM you the page if you'd like though. ^__^

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I watched two hatchlings slowly die on my scroll last year so I could have a zombie hatchie without having to use a kill slot. Sadly they both failed, although two of my adults succeeded. I guess I will have to try with more than two this year.

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For people wondering what happens when a hatchie is successfully revived (not as a zombie), they grow up instantly. Here's my green from last year - note the dates. I had let its time run out and revived it on Halloween, only to have it revive as an adult. Also, note the pretty low V/UV/C, if that's of interest to anyone. Hope this helps (or is at least edifying xd.png).

I'm really curious/hopeful about the rumors that we can have ten adult attempts, using 5 kills on the 17th, and having the slots reset on the 31st for another five. Any confirmation from the hardened veterans of zombifying?

 

Cheers,

Shala

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For people wondering what happens when a hatchie is successfully revived (not as a zombie), they grow up instantly. Here's my green from last year - note the dates. I had let its time run out and revived it on Halloween, only to have it revive as an adult. Also, note the pretty low V/UV/C, if that's of interest to anyone. Hope this helps (or is at least edifying xd.png).

Actually, not every time - or at least, only if you let its time run out. If you use the kill action, you can still revive it as a hatchie. That's what happened to me with this guy, who I promptly froze and named appropriately.

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Actually, not every time - or at least, only if you let its time run out. If you use the kill action, you can still revive it as a hatchie. That's what happened to me with this guy, who I promptly froze and named appropriately.

Good point, Libby. smile.gif Guess I just assumed that people either killed hatchies with sickness or 'starvation'. It makes sense that if you revive while still inside the time window for hatchie survival, it would come back as a hatchie with time left on it.

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I was fascinated. It isn't TJ's, either.

Cheeze also has an adult unknown gender zombie.

 

I was thinking I'd skip out on zombies this year but I forgot I only managed to turn one adult last year...so I don't think I'll have enough time to scramble and come up with a mate for this http://dragcave.net/lineage/TkuKJ dragon. I did get two other magis from zombie parets but the user who owns the parents has gone inactive so they're not named anymore.

 

It took me months just to get four magis to give me a magi egg or two so I don't think I have time right now. I did let a mass amount of hatchlings die (about 25) and only got two zombie hatchlings out of it so I'm not doing that ever again. Other people I know who did that ended up with quite a few, but it seems I just had awful luck.

 

I dunno, I might try for a couple zombies. I do have one CB royal blue that's been bred to a magi that I don't care about.

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so killed zombies do not take up kill slots perminantly? great! i dont usually pay attention to my kill slots outside of halloween.

I'll definitely be using the natural death method this year for hatchies. hopefully i'll finally get a male zombie hatchie. AND have a better shot at adults.

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can you zombify ungendered? dinos, cheeses, papers...

I don't think you can zombie them. Possibly because they are not breedable.

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Here is my unge´ndered adult:

 

http://dragcave.net/lineage/E4HB

 

Which answers your question sorrowgrave: YES YOU CAN , but from my experience one doesn´t work, but I can´t remember which....

 

 

edited to lineage link - ruby

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lol, it isn't edited. I didn't post the hatchie's page because we aren't allowed to post others' dragons on the forum. I will gladly PM you the page if you'd like though. ^__^

I didn't think it was, but the technical skeptic inside me said it was possible. xd.png

That would be great if you could PM the link, if only as a personal reference/proof.

 

 

Updates to second post: Ungendered Zombies, what Zombies look like in lineages/progenies, when they're visible, dodging the blade, kill slot take-up, alteration on non Halloween rumor.

 

EDIT: Okay, Wookie had a lot fewer hatchie successes than adult successes. I had the same thing.

 

What are other people's experiences here? Adults more successful at reviving? Hatchies more successful? Ratio-wise, since only five adults can be used at once. (3/5 adults is better than 5/25 hatchies)

 

(Also plan to look into that possible ten adults thing. Not disregarding that, it could be one heck of a boost if it works)

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Whats the most successful way to get a zombie?

 

Killing Hatchlings and reviving them, or adults?

 

Im going to start grabbing random CB eggs as fodder..

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Whats the most successful way to get a zombie?

 

Killing Hatchlings and reviving them, or adults?

 

Im going to start grabbing random CB eggs as fodder..

You can only get an adult FROM an adult - they do NOT grow up. So....

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I was unaware that you could get ungendered zombies. I might have to test that theory out this halloween. I have already started a name cache for any zombies I make.

 

I wanted to share my calculations I did concerning how many zombie tries I can get. (This may be completely wrong as it IS 5 am and I haven't been to bed yet) With the gold trophy I have 7 egg slots. And eggs hatch in 3 days with incubate. So 7 eggs every 3 days. And if I start gathering eggs on the 18th I will be able to get around 42 tries. Plus the 5 adults. which is 47. And that is without trading for hatchlings and catching low times on the AP.

 

And if I also may suggest, if you are doing the viewbombing option I suggest using Yarolds to get the UVs for it. As long as you have the credits for it, you can put the hatchlings on there as long as needed.

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I was unaware that you could get ungendered zombies. I might have to test that theory out this halloween. I have already started a name cache for any zombies I make.

Cheeze got his from a neglected--one that was part of the holly breeding glitch.

 

As for the adults I only got one out of three to turn. I've seen other people get much better successes that I did, but they might be a little more difficult to bring back than the adults. They die easy so it makes sense that they crumble easily. Most of the hatchlings I attempted on were gendered before they died.

 

What I did manage to get was a zombie from a nightglory drake and a revived hatchling that instantly turned into an adult http://dragcave.net/lineage/2AEH8. My other zombie hatchling was a stone I believe.

 

 

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I tried to turn Whites into Zombies because I was making a Marrow x White lineage and wanted the zombies paired with the Marrow. I only got one Zombie out of five Adult Whites killed.

 

I'm going to try to kill Whites again this year. But I'm also hedging my bets by hoarding a few CB dragons to zombie if the Whites dodge the blade. The Whites were very good at dodging.

 

I forgot, if a dragon dodges, can we attempt to kill another dragon? Or has that kill attempt been used up for 24 hours?

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I want either a male female zombie pair, or sole gender.

 

once I have my two I'm done.

 

That leaves

Holly and Neglect and I have every other dragon that isn't discontiuned.

 

and even if it doges it uses the kill

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I tried to turn Whites into Zombies because I was making a Marrow x White lineage and wanted the zombies paired with the Marrow. I only got one Zombie out of five Adult Whites killed.

 

I'm going to try to kill Whites again this year. But I'm also hedging my bets by hoarding a few CB dragons to zombie if the Whites dodge the blade. The Whites were very good at dodging.

 

I forgot, if a dragon dodges, can we attempt to kill another dragon? Or has that kill attempt been used up for 24 hours?

It isnt dead, so does not use the kill slot

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Forgive me if I overlooked this, but if I let hatchlings die from lack of views, do they take up hatchling spots until they are off my scroll?

If they don't count and I have a full scroll and revive one what would happen?

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Forgive me if I overlooked this, but if I let hatchlings die from lack of views, do they take up hatchling spots until they are off my scroll?

If they don't count and I have a full scroll and revive one what would happen?

Eggs that die 'naturally' (meaning: from lack of views) never take up a kill slot. The same kind of principle applies to hatchlings that die from lack of views: they will not take up one of your hatchling slots for 24 hours. For example... if you have 17 living hatchlings (= 17 occupied hatchling slots) and one dies naturally, then you are immediately at 16 hatchlings (= 16 occupied hatchling slots). The slot previously occupied by the now-dead hatchling is immediately freed up.

 

As for what would happen when you revive a hatchling when you have a 100% full scroll... that depends on what you mean. By 'revive', do you mean a successful zombie turn? If so, a newly zombified hatchling does not take up a hatchling slot. They are technically dead or frozen (since they will never mature and always remain a hatchling), so they do not take up a hatchling slot like the living hatchlings do.

 

If by 'revive' you mean a killed hatchling that was successfully brought back to life (without turning into a zombie), then I don't know what would happen. Maybe it would get auto-abandoned, or perhaps scrolls are designed so that hatchlings can never be brought back to (normal) life on a 100% full scroll. I think the best person to answer this question would probably be TJ.

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If by 'revive' you mean a killed hatchling that was successfully brought back to life (without turning into a zombie), then I don't know what would happen. Maybe it would get auto-abandoned, or perhaps scrolls are designed so that hatchlings can never be brought back to (normal) life on a 100% full scroll. I think the best person to answer this question would probably be TJ.

Yeah, I'm curious as to what happens if it revives but doesn't turn into a zombie. Instant death, abandonment??? Now I'm tempted to try it just to find out, if that's possible. Or maybe TJ could save me the trouble and let us know? tongue.gif

Thanks for the answer about whether or not they take up slots, makes it so much easier to make my evil plans!

 

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