Lineage Terminology.

[Tydeth]

Ah. I was hoping there'd be some nice name for that kind of thing, but just calling it Dorkwed will suffice.

 

Thanks for the information, purple and grammy.

 

Actually, do you guys know the name for the pattern on Kaliste's section of the lineage above?

[grammydragon]

hmmm, the Kaliste portion starts with 4 dragons on first gen. If it had

only 2 dragons as first gen it would have a sharper point and would

have been called an arrowhead by many people. The way it is though

makes it kind of blocky and I would not call it arrowhead. I don't think

it would have any special name, unless somebody else has an idea.

 

 

[Lurhstaap]

Late response, but I call the Kaliste portion lineages "pointers" because if you look at it with the last generation as the point of the arrow (rather than the CBs) it looks like a Windows pointer arrow.

[JadeEyedJasmine]

I understand inbreeding in real life being bad, but why is it bad in the game? Also, why would you inbreed to create beautiful patterns? Doesn't each individual of the same breed and gender, well, look the same? Sorry for all the questions, I am new and do not fully understand breeding.

[Ruby Eyes]

It's not bad in the game, it's just a personal preference. Mostly, inbred dragons have the disadvantage of having a lineage for which you cannot create a mate yourself, but need another one from the original breeder (like right now, I'm hoping that Fortytwo breeds another Mint that I can catch, for this Guardian: http://dragcave.net/lineage/DTCsG )

 

As for your other question, "why would you inbreed to create beautiful patterns" - that one kind of answers itself: to create beautiful patterns! Sometimes, a pattern is achieved by repeating sprites, and the easiest way to get that is inbreeding because fewer cave dragons are required to start with, like this: http://dragcave.net/lineage/6XBgZ

[nay279]

I know this is a purebred lineage, but is there another name for it as well because of the pattern?

http://dragcave.net/lineage/JQNXb

[Ruby Eyes]

I would call it alt-alternating. Works with Sunsets/Sunrises, too: http://dragcave.net/lineage/hDwk2

[dragongrrl]

I know this is a purebred lineage, but is there another name for it as well because of the pattern?

http://dragcave.net/lineage/JQNXb

That's an PB EG stripe pattern, the way I look at it. There are different variations, depending on which breeds you're working with.

 

You can do it with with a number of other breeds, including Blacks - https://dragcave.net/lineage/5MpIL;

 

Vines - https://dragcave.net/lineage/ntX31;

 

Seasonals, with sequential or alternating Seasons, like https://dragcave.net/lineage/hTDt0, https://dragcave.net/lineage/2xSGB or https://dragcave.net/lineage/cNRHF:

 

Stripes - https://dragcave.net/lineage/Dp6e4, https://dragcave.net/lineage/p9kyk, https://dragcave.net/lineage/salZE.

 

I don't have Alt Undines yet, but I have seen the pattern and they are wonderful. Ultraviolets can create another unique pattern with their unusual breeding tendencies. Nebulas and Gemshards can create stripes, but I'm leaving those to others to attempt.

 

ETA Lunar Heralds will be producing stripe patterns too! And I do intend to work on them!

Edited November 14, 2015 by dragongrrl

[Ruby Eyes]

Ultraviolets have the disadvantage of only regressing to Spitfires though, not to Purples, as far as I know.

[dragongrrl]

Ultraviolets have the disadvantage of only regressing to Spitfires though, not to Purples, as far as I know.

I think I've seen a lineage with Purples and Spits in the third generation, UVs in the second and fourth gens, but I couldn't make a guess on the breeder at this point.

[Ruby Eyes]

Sure, if you breed UV with Purple, you can also get a Purple, so a "checker" with one parent alternating is possible. But from a "pure" UV couple, all you can get is UV and Spitfire.

[Sunnyhistory22]

Help! I need to know the lineage type for this lady!

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE THE LINEAGE! Alt blacks, normal blacks, silvers (the link and blue kind), normal vines, alt vines, BRIGHT PINKS whites, and golds!!! (Not tinsels or shimmers, wyvern, but normal kind.) But, totally not sure what lineage type.

[Ruby Eyes]

There is no specific name for that lineage. In trade, most people would call it "messy" because it has no apparent order.

[Sunnyhistory22]

Thanks!

[DragonKing17]

hey i have a few cb and purebreds and i can breed if people wanna trade eggs

 

[Obscure_Trash]

hey i have a few cb and purebreds and i can breed if people wanna trade eggs

This really isn't the thread for this. If you skim through the first post, it should give you an idea of what this thread is for.

 

Trading is done in the trading section: https://forums.dragcave.net/index.php?showforum=11

 

Please be sure to have something to offer and post in the appropriate trading thread.

[GuardianOfBelief]

What's the difference between Messy and Clean lineages? Also, could someone look through my dragons and tell me what the lineages are? I have a list of what I think they are, but I'd like confirmation. Here's the list:

 

 

ADULTS

 

1. Oceanseer (male Skywing)=Caveborn

2. Roguewave (male Seawrym Pygmy)=Caveborn

3. Alpineflame (male Magelight Pygmy Wyvern)=Caveborn

4. Firespell (female Sunstone)=Caveborn

5. Shockjumper (male Electric)=Caveborn

6. Shiningfrost (female Frosbite)=Caveborn

7. Lighthunter (male Sunsong Amphipter)=Purebred

8. Stilldream (female Daydream)=Messy

9. Cloudriddle (male Skywing)=2-breed

10. Cherryflare (female Carmine Wyvern)=Caveborn

11. Sapphirerose (female Royal Blue)=Caveborn

12. Arrowglider (female Guardian)=Caveborn

13. Daysriker (male Pink)=Caveborn

14. Silvereclipse (female Moonstone)=Clean

15. Darksquall (female Blacktip)=Caveborn

16. Pearlshell (female White)=Even-gen

17. Tranquilfathom (female Deep Sea)=Purebred

18. Jewelkeeper (female Gemshard [blue])=Purebred

19. Stilllight (female Sunsong Amphiter)=Messy

20. Violetflower (female Purple)=Checker

21. Rubywater (female Red-finned Tidal)=Caveborn

22. Spelllight (male Lumina)=Clean

23. Tranquilocean (male Two-Finned Bluna)=Clean

24. Rosysky (female Sunset)=Caveborn

25. Nightstory (male Night Glory Drake)=Caveborn

26. Preciousthing (female Striped [White])=Messy

27. Autunmguard (male Autumn)=Checker

28. Moonquill (female Lunar Herald [indigo])=Checker

29. Christmasstar (female Tinsel [silver])=Clean

30. Rubyfairy (female Red)=Checker

31. Dancemagic (female Magi)=Caveborn

32. Wonderfultime (female Magi)=Caveborn

33. Rubysinger (female Red)=Caveborn

 

HATCHLINGS

 

1. Nightdivine (female Solstice [Holiday 2013])=Checker

2. Mildglory (male Yulebuck [Holiday 2008])=Clean

3. (Snow Angel [Holiday 2009] )=Clean

4. (Winter Magi [Holiday 2011])=Checker

 

EGGS

 

1. (Wrapping-Wing [Holiday 2012])=Clean

2. (Ribbon Dancer [Holiday 2010])=Clean

3. (Mistletoe [Holiday 2014])=Clean

4. (Holly [Holiday 2007])=Spiral

 

And here's a link to my scroll:

GuardianOfBelief

[Lurhstaap]

Messy lineages have no real pattern. They're just a jumble. Clean is just a term that means the lineage has a pattern of some sort. There are examples of the specific lineage types in the OP which you can use to figure out what your own dragons are. But I will give you a couple to help out. Cloudriddle is technically messy - more specifically, a spiral fail. If he had been a bronze tinsel of the right sex the lineage would have been a spiral. Some people might consider it a spiral regardless of the breeds involved but I see those as imperfect spirals at best. 'Two breed' isn't really a lineage type in itself.

 

Silvereclipse is also a 'messy spiral'.

 

Pearlshell is not evengen but a simple g2 (generation 2). If you bred it to another G2, the offspring would be evengen.

 

Christmasstar is messy, as is Mildglory.

 

Hope this helps you figure it out.

 

 

 

[GuardianOfBelief]

How do you tell the difference between a Clean lineage and a Messy lineage?

[purplehaze]

How do you tell the difference between a Clean lineage and a Messy lineage?

Definitions vary by user, but generally any lineage with a pattern of some sort to it -- even gen, stair, spiral, etc. that is not inbred is considered clean.

 

Lineages with no particular pattern to them like this or this or this are considered messy.

Edited December 23, 2015 by purplehaze

[GuardianOfBelief]

Definitions vary by user, but generally any lineage with a pattern of some sort to it -- even gen, stair, spiral, etc. that is not inbred is considered clean.

 

Lineages with no particular pattern to them like this or this or this are considered messy.

On the Wika, it defines a Clean lineage as "The dragon is not inbred, but has no pattern, while still having a generally good appeal.". That's why I was asking.

[Lurhstaap]

The Wiki is not official. That reflects possibly an older state of affairs which is no longer true, or maybe just the opinion of whomever wrote that page on the wiki. To be honest I have never encountered that use of the word 'clean' before and I think that page needs to be edited because that is at minimum a very unusual use of the word, possibly unique to the person who wrote that.

 

In fact that is not a workable definition of 'clean' because it essentially means that to be messy a dragon has to be inbred, which means there's no use for the word 'messy' - we'd all just call them inbreds and be done with it. 'Having good appeal' but having no pattern is totally individual. for me there is honestly no such thing except maybe for Dorkfaces and Thuweds. So that is not a useful definition.

Edited December 23, 2015 by Lurhstaap

[GuardianOfBelief]

Thanks for explaining that, but that still doesn't tell me what a Clean lineage is. Purplehaze says that a Clean lineage is one that isn't inbred and has a pattern, but wouldn't we call the lineage by the pattern name? Edited December 23, 2015 by GuardianOfBelief

[Dracaena]

How do you tell the difference between a Clean lineage and a Messy lineage?

I think you found a question that will have as many answers as people you ask.

 

A dragon can be both clean and messy. To me clean is not inbred and messy is not a defined pattern. Though you can find people who will say messy is anything not a perfect pattern. And you can find dragons that are perfect patterns but somewhere along the line a pair of great, great, etc... parents were included in the lineage more than once.

 

So now everything should be clear as mississippi river water.

[GuardianOfBelief]

I think you found a question that will have as many answers as people you ask.

 

A dragon can be both clean and messy. To me clean is not inbred and messy is not a defined pattern. Though you can find people who will say messy is anything not a perfect pattern. And you can find dragons that are perfect patterns but somewhere along the line a pair of great, great, etc... parents were included in the lineage more than once.

 

So now everything should be clear as mississippi river water.

In other words, not at all.