Posted January 4, 2016 I got this egg, and now I am thinking what I can breed it with. I am going to find a proper mate next Halloween, but it is too long to wait, and till then I want to try something else. What do you think is better to use instead of Graves? I like cassares, they have a similar sort of 'autumn' feel in the darker colors, and the poses are not too dramatically different. Share this post Link to post
Posted January 12, 2016 I need some guidance about song lyric lineages, or at least some higher gen examples to check out for reference. Most of the ones I've seen are evengens but I'm having trouble to figure out how to make the lyrics line up in my mind. Share this post Link to post
Posted January 12, 2016 I made a poem based lineage not too long ago, so I think I can help you out! It seems daunting at first but it's not so bad step by step. 1. Figure out how long of a lineage you'll be doing. If you're doing an even gen, I find 5g is a nice balance between doable and impressive. 2. Break the song you're using into as many parts as there are dragons in your lineage. There are 30 dragons in a 5g even lineage, for example. Keep in mind that you can't repeat the same part twice, as names must be unique! 3. If you have any unnamed dragons, or ones you'd be willing to temporarily rename, test the song parts you plan to use one by one to make sure that they're available and not too long. If you hit either issue, switching a word from one part to the next or previous part can often help. For example, let's say three parts are "let the fires rage" "until the dawn" "so we can carry on" and the first two parts are already taken. Changing it to "let the fires" "rage until the dawn" would work, or "let the fires" "rage until the" "dawn so we can carry on." 4. Once all the parts of your song have been name checked, pull up excel (or simply draw a graph by hand) showing the 30 boxes for your lineage. Then, simply fill in the song parts and start breeding, and you'll have your lineage in no time! If you have any questions feel free to ask me. Here's my completed lineage, too, as a visual reference: http://dragcave.net/lineage/cXAcn Share this post Link to post
Posted January 17, 2016 I need some help, trying to make a lightening bolt lineage I want to make a lineage with the lyrics to Magic Dance in the shape and color of the classic David Bowie lightening bolt. Ive had mixed results test breeding some stairs: http://dragcave.net/lineage/1WrQG -I think that if I were to make the Red a male, and then breed it to seomthing like 9G Red Goldshimmer to get the bolt. Otherwise I was thinking of using some 2G and 3Gs http://dragcave.net/lineage/5UH9e -Id hoped that if I bred 2 stairs going in the same direction they d fit into each other. but no such luck. Thoughts? I am currently thinking to do this using Pygmy dragons since Dark Myst can handle the line of black and we got crimson flare and Nilia to handle the blue and red. Reference picture of the David Bowie bolt: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0...80052028caf.jpg Share this post Link to post
Posted January 17, 2016 I need some help, trying to make a lightening bolt lineage I want to make a lineage with the lyrics to Magic Dance in the shape and color of the classic David Bowie lightening bolt. Ive had mixed results test breeding some stairs: http://dragcave.net/lineage/1WrQG -I think that if I were to make the Red a male, and then breed it to seomthing like 9G Red Goldshimmer to get the bolt. Otherwise I was thinking of using some 2G and 3Gs http://dragcave.net/lineage/5UH9e -Id hoped that if I bred 2 stairs going in the same direction they d fit into each other. but no such luck. Thoughts? I am currently thinking to do this using Pygmy dragons since Dark Myst can handle the line of black and we got crimson flare and Nilia to handle the blue and red. Reference picture of the David Bowie bolt: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0...80052028caf.jpg I think the closest thing I have seen would be an alternating spiral. Alternating both gender and length, like breed with two males, then flip and do three females, flip again another two males, flip again and three more females. I don't have any to show you, but I have seen them, I think some people call them waves maybe? Share this post Link to post
Posted January 17, 2016 I think the closest thing I have seen would be an alternating spiral. Alternating both gender and length, like breed with two males, then flip and do three females, flip again another two males, flip again and three more females. I don't have any to show you, but I have seen them, I think some people call them waves maybe? Thats an interesting idea. I just tested trying to breed a 2G Even Female to a stair male and it works sorta. http://dragcave.net/lineage/EIB4f -what do you think? Share this post Link to post
Posted January 17, 2016 I need some guidance about song lyric lineages, or at least some higher gen examples to check out for reference. Most of the ones I've seen are evengens but I'm having trouble to figure out how to make the lyrics line up in my mind. Im going to copy and paste some of a post i made for the Dr Who thread a few years ago. It's relevant and hopefully it will help We are allowed 32 characters when naming our dragons, which includes spaces. Trying to make a quote fit can be challenging. For a 4th gen dragon that gives us 15 lines of up to 32 characters allowing a maximum of 480 characters. Any more than 480 characters and it won't fit. Once you have your quote of less than 480 characters then the fun of trying to fit it into 15 lines begins. The same applies to 5th gen lineages except the numbers are 31 lines with a maximum of 992 characters. This siie http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/charcount.shtml is great for checking the length of names and playing around with word flow. Share this post Link to post
Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Personally I think 'lighting bolt' would be best as what I call a zigzag or a wave. They work exactly like spirals, but with more generations before switching genders. With a zigzag you switch after two gens and with a wave you switch after three. Zigzag: http://dragcave.net/lineage/gzVBP Wave: http://dragcave.net/lineage/0t85K I think the zigzag is closer to stereotypical 'lightning bolt shape' personally but either would work. For the "Bowie" bolt specifically I think a wave comes closer, but that's not going to be an easy shape to do with a lineage. It might be something to think about trying within the square shape of an evengen, "drawn" by changing breeds? Edited January 17, 2016 by Lurhstaap Share this post Link to post
Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) I need some guidance about song lyric lineages, or at least some higher gen examples to check out for reference. Most of the ones I've seen are evengens but I'm having trouble to figure out how to make the lyrics line up in my mind. What the others said. Also, I've found it useful to wait with the naming until the whole lineage is finished breeding, and then go through the dragons one by one, from the lineage view of the final dragon. That way you don't have to rename them when you encounter refusals and decide to swith mates within the lineage (not always possible, depending on the pattern you're doing, but for many patterns that works). I've got one, too: Storms were mine (the lyrics read top to bottom, left to right). Edited January 21, 2016 by Lastalda Share this post Link to post
Posted January 25, 2016 Whatelse could substitute a CB Winter Magi for her. I already used a Fever Wyvern last year but i like to try out something else this year. And no i don't want to do an evengen lineage. Share this post Link to post
Posted January 25, 2016 Whatelse could substitute a CB Winter Magi for her. Golden Lunar Herald? Share this post Link to post
Posted January 25, 2016 @Confused Cat Could work and then i could use a Fever Wyvern from time to time so that i will have a pattern and not only like first gen is Winter Magi and then only Golden Lunar Heralds. *Going to testbreed* Share this post Link to post
Posted January 26, 2016 I'm trying to decide what mates would be good for heartstealing dragons. Anyone have any suggestions? I thought about a few of the xenowyrms, and I kinda like the idea of breeding them with either mageia or thalassa. Share this post Link to post
Posted January 26, 2016 I'm trying to decide what mates would be good for heartstealing dragons. Anyone have any suggestions? I thought about a few of the xenowyrms, and I kinda like the idea of breeding them with either mageia or thalassa. I suggest skimming through here: https://forums.dragcave.net/index.php?showtopic=166694 I personally like striped river and purple neb best. Followed by blusang, falconiform, and tsunami. Share this post Link to post
Posted January 26, 2016 Ok I caught this really neat gal: http://dragcave.net/lineage/6ytyb And I'm not sure what to do for a mate? I wasn't able to influcene this one to a male, so if I replicated the lineage with a new breeding it'd be with male swallowtails I guess? idk :L Share this post Link to post
Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Ok I caught this really neat gal: http://dragcave.net/lineage/6ytyb And I'm not sure what to do for a mate? I wasn't able to influcene this one to a male, so if I replicated the lineage with a new breeding it'd be with male swallowtails I guess? idk :L Something like this, maybe? Lineage preview 72kb To accomplish that you would need to mirror the lineage with male Swallowtails as you mentioned. The Coastal Waverunners would be female, except for the 4G which would need to be male to use as a mate for your Thuwed. If you want to duplicate the ancestors that appear twice, breed the 2G female Coastal to an unrelated CB male Swallowtail to get a 3G male Swallowtail, then breed him back to his mother to get a 4G male Coastal. I caught this Holly fellow last Christmas and would like to find or build him a mate. The likelihood of finding an unrelated Winter from a male Holly x female Winter checker is close to nil, so I'd like to find or build an equivalent substitute that will keep the lineage even. Perhaps with a similar colour scheme happening? I'm not sure what to substitute the Hollies or Winters with; ideally the mate will have one of the two breeds, probably the Winter as Hollies are few and far between. If anyone has some ideas, I would greatly appreciate it. Edited January 26, 2016 by VampiricOmen Share this post Link to post
Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) @VampiricOmen There are a few options that came to my mind: Replace Hollies with Sunstones and Winters with female Moonstones Replace Hollies with Sunstones and Winters with Frostbite Replace Hollies with Sunstones and Winters with Ice Dragons Or replace the Hollies with Heartseekers and keep the Winters... or also replace the Winters. @dejavugurl A shiny pair together with Sunsong Amphiptere. https://dragcave.net/lineage/XWgb2 And have a look at my Bleeding Moon x Hearstealing pair: https://dragcave.net/lineage/QMZmO I will also try Royal Blue. Edited January 26, 2016 by Tigerkralle Share this post Link to post
Posted January 26, 2016 @VampiricOmen - How about the chance of finding the reverse? Female Holly x Male Winter checker. I don't really know how possible that is, but seems it should work. I don't really think there is anything that matches well the red of the Hollies. Sunstone, Red, Royal Crimson all come up short in my mind. Maybe Heartseeker. Share this post Link to post
Posted January 26, 2016 @VampiricOmen Thanks for the chart! That's way more helpful, I think though I might keep the mate for my little Thuwed girl as a swallowtail just to keep the wave runner x swallowtail theme intact (as well as making it possible for people to continue the line themselves!) I'll have to work on male swallowtails as soon as v-day is over :> Thank you for the suggestion/explanation Share this post Link to post
Posted January 27, 2016 I would love some lineage advice for a few CB's. I've had some of them for a while now and stuck on how to continue/start the lineages from them. The ones in question are: - Male Ice (3) - Silvers (both male/female) Share this post Link to post
Posted January 27, 2016 I've found that Ice and Mageia looks quite nice. Sample (genderswapped, but hooray for no dimorphism! ) here: https://dragcave.net/lineage/m3UQa Share this post Link to post
Posted January 27, 2016 I would love some lineage advice for a few CB's. I've had some of them for a while now and stuck on how to continue/start the lineages from them. The ones in question are: - Male Ice (3) - Silvers (both male/female) I think first it would be helpful to know what sort of 'look' you might like. Here are some of my favorite finds. Sort of a monochromatic look? http://dragcave.net/lineage/5DVqy and http://dragcave.net/lineage/CrtK4 Colors that compliment each other? http://dragcave.net/lineage/woRfo and http://dragcave.net/lineage/MKNq5 or maybe something with a striking contrast in colors? http://dragcave.net/lineage/xIglB and http://dragcave.net/lineage/AqJ12 I really like ones that have more than just two breeds, but I don't have the patience to do those myself http://dragcave.net/lineage/vxBo0 Share this post Link to post
Posted January 27, 2016 I've found that Ice and Mageia looks quite nice. Sample (genderswapped, but hooray for no dimorphism! ) here: https://dragcave.net/lineage/m3UQa Hmm, I think I might do that. The colours work rather well together. I think first it would be helpful to know what sort of 'look' you might like. Here are some of my favorite finds. Sort of a monochromatic look? http://dragcave.net/lineage/5DVqy and http://dragcave.net/lineage/CrtK4 Colors that compliment each other? http://dragcave.net/lineage/woRfo and http://dragcave.net/lineage/MKNq5 or maybe something with a striking contrast in colors? http://dragcave.net/lineage/xIglB and http://dragcave.net/lineage/AqJ12 I really like ones that have more than just two breeds, but I don't have the patience to do those myself http://dragcave.net/lineage/vxBo0 I really don't know/care! I really love hearing other's suggestions and seeing how I can take them from there. Share this post Link to post
Posted January 28, 2016 A few thoughts ice x anagalis http://www.allureofnds.net/NDER/Lineage.ph...en=2&mate=fFL5F x thalassis http://www.allureofnds.net/NDER/Lineage.ph...en=2&mate=uVUGl x brute http://www.allureofnds.net/NDER/Lineage.ph...en=2&mate=Pnqjn male silver x riverstripe (their tails do the same cute little loopy thing) http://www.allureofnds.net/NDER/Lineage.ph...en=2&mate=RpHur female silver x black tea or thalassis maybe http://www.allureofnds.net/NDER/Lineage.ph...en=2&mate=jt4ZL http://www.allureofnds.net/NDER/Lineage.ph...ate=jt4ZL&style[bg]=y Share this post Link to post
Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) What do I do with this guy? I feel like his lineage is already as epic as it gets...from years ago. I have no idea what kind of mate would look good with him I'm newly back to dragcave and I'm still trying to catch up on all the new dragons that released since I last played in 2010!! https://dragcave.net/lineage/5EiY Edited January 31, 2016 by Pryanka Share this post Link to post
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