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6 minutes ago, Dracaena said:

Appears to be a typo in the description of the new Halloween dragon - Arcana.

"Arcana Dragons are a rarely-encountered breed..."  in first line.

"Arcanae are diligent in their efforts..." in fourth line.

Almost makes you wonder which is the proper spelling of the name.   Arcana or Arcanae?

I believe Arcanae is plural.

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Yep, it is. In latin, words from first declension (ended in "-a" in singular) construct their plural with "-ae". 

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Like larva/larvae, pupa/pupae... Which are words that even made it into English with their respective plural forms.

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1 hour ago, Dracaena said:

Appears to be a typo in the description of the new Halloween dragon - Arcana.

"Arcana Dragons are a rarely-encountered breed..."  in first line.

"Arcanae are diligent in their efforts..." in fourth line.

Almost makes you wonder which is the proper spelling of the name.   Arcana or Arcanae?

 

With my limited knowledge of latin it actually makes sense 🙃 Arcanae is probably the plural form of Arcana (which isn't used in the first sentence because there the plural is indicated on DragonS).. At least that's what I would guess. Might be wrong, though :o

 

edit: oh haha, didn't see that there was already another page with answers. Just ignore me then.

Edited by Soulsborne

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19 hours ago, Dracaena said:

True but if you look at latin, arcana is a verb which one doesn't usually need plural for?

arcana in favorite latin dictionary

 

When you look up arcana in an english dictionary it lists base word of arcanum and arcana is the plural.

arcana in english dictionary

 

While this may be true, Arcana is its own word, whether it originally came from a plural or not. Therefore using the Latin suffix -ae to make Arcana plural makes sense to me :)

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The new Arcane dragons' descriptions look like they could use some comma clean up. The one after 'abilities' in the first sentence, the one after 'mana' in the second, the one after 'mages' in the third, and maybe the one after 'kind' also in the third. I like commas, hell I love commas, but let's not get greedy here.

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Oh yes, the Arcana's description is overrun with commas. I'm not all that great with figuring out where they should and shouldn't go, but this sentence especially is awkward:

 

However, they are also very intelligent dragons, and when raised around mages, or others of their own kind, almost invariably become obsessed with the study of magic. 

Edited by HeatherMarie

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Regarding "Arcanae", as a Latin plural form it makes sense. The dictionary site you linked says it's an adjective, in which case arcanae would be the feminine plural nominative or neuter plural nominative/accusative forms. Probably.

 

We are, however, not using Latin, we are using English, so English pluralization (stick an S on and hope it sounds okay) should be used.

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1 hour ago, osmarks said:

We are, however, not using Latin, we are using English, so English pluralization (stick an S on and hope it sounds okay) should be used.

Some words in English are actually latin and therefor use latin plural. Cactus --> cacti. Larva --> larvae. Impromptu is correct in English and is still a latin word. 

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On the page of a gendered (male) Omen Wyrm hatchling:

 

Oh look, it’s a cute baby... dragon? It’s impossible to see much of its body through all the flames.And look! It’s finally grown some sort of bizarre hide. It must be close to maturing.

 

Really small thing, but there's a space missing between the two sentences.

Edited by Cinspawn

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I was browsing my badges and noticed this by my Easter basket - 

Earned by particpating in a Festival of Eggs event

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On 11/4/2018 at 10:17 PM, HeatherMarie said:

Oh yes, the Arcana's description is overrun with commas. I'm not all that great with figuring out where they should and shouldn't go, but this sentence especially is awkward:

 

However, they are also very intelligent dragons, and when raised around mages, or others of their own kind, almost invariably become obsessed with the study of magic. 

I wouldn't mind a lot of commas, but these make the sentence grammatically incorrect.

 

Take out the one after "dragons" because what follows is not a complete sentence *, and you'll have a correct sentence.

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However, they are also very intelligent dragons and when raised around mages, or others of their own kind, almost invariably become obsessed with the study of magic.

It's not incorrect to encase "or others of their own kind" in commas if you consider the phrase a parenthetical element. Without it, it goes: However, they are also very intelligent dragons and when raised around mages almost invariably become obsessed with the study of magic.

 

How about

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However, they are also very intelligent dragons, and when raised around mages, or others of their own kind, they almost invariably become obsessed with the study of magic.

I like this one. Just a simple "they".

 

Or

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However, they are also very intelligent dragons, and when raised around mages or others of their own kind, they almost invariably become obsessed with the study of magic.

 

 

Or if you want to get rid of as many commas as possible

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However, they are also very intelligent dragons and when raised around mages or others of their own kind almost invariably become obsessed with the study of magic.

 

 

All correct. IMO, the one that keeps the commas and just adds "they" reads the best.

 

* I think that's called a "compound predicate", and this kind of error is in more than one place on the site. See bleeding moon egg description

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I don't know if this counts as grammar or spelling error but I randomly discovered that the encyclopedia page for the Ochredrake describes them as dragons on one of the lines. I don't know if this is supposed to be this way or not, but thought I'd point it out?

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Adult Behavior

  • Swift and cheerful dragon.

https://dragcave.net/dragonopedia/73

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Well I'm no native Speaker, but on this description there seems to be one missing word

 

Because of their four wings, Nhiostrifes are very nimble in the air and have control their movements with ease.

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14 hours ago, Din85 said:

Well I'm no native Speaker, but on this description there seems to be one missing word

 

Because of their four wings, Nhiostrifes are very nimble in the air and have control their movements with ease.

 

It sounds like it's meant to read: "Because of their four wings, Nhiostrifes are very nimble in the air and can control their movements with ease."

Edited by StormWizard212

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On dark green dragons there is a point that mentions:

  • Colour/number of flowers appears dimorphic: females yellow (3), males red (2)

Yet this is totally inacurate. 1st we have no dimorphism for this species and 2nd it is actually describing an Alt vine so.... it should be changed.

 

Also, so many species info where 'then' is used wrong. You use ' than' to compare and 'then' to express past or possible time

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15 minutes ago, camelia2 said:

Also, so many species info where 'then' is used wrong. You use ' than' to compare and 'then' to express past or possible time

 

Can you give specific examples so they can be fixed? :)

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1 hour ago, camelia2 said:

On dark green dragons there is a point that mentions:

  • Colour/number of flowers appears dimorphic: females yellow (3), males red (2)

Yet this is totally inacurate. 1st we have no dimorphism for this species and 2nd it is actually describing an Alt vine so.... it should be changed.

 

Also, so many species info where 'then' is used wrong. You use ' than' to compare and 'then' to express past or possible time

I suspect the information for dark green dragons was written in the time frame of this thread where there was a planned update to add dimorphism and polish the sprites.

I had held out hope the update would eventually happen.  This many years passage makes it seem not so likely but only Lythiaren and the Bossman can say for sure.

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The cooking badge has the same typo - Particpated in the 2012 Holiday Cooking event

 

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I'm not native speaker, but for me, Starsinger's pedia seems bugged with mistakes

•Are not very adept at moving quickly on all fours

I don't think you can say very adept... and it also seems contextualy wrong...I mean, adept at moving quickly? Is this a choice on how fast you move?

they are relatively light-weight and usually...

light-weighted right?

•However, they are also surprisingly durable.

a living thing can be durable? As I know this can only be used for objects.... and what is the sense here? They're strong or?

•Can live anywhere so long as high perches are available

as long as

branches, or both •cubes, honey, or tree sap.

Unnecesary commas

I haven't unlocked all the infos yet so there might be more

 
Edited by camelia2
Ironically, typos

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1 hour ago, camelia2 said:

I'm not native speaker, but for me, Starsinger's pedia seems bugged with mistakes

•Are not very adept at moving quickly on all fours

I don't think you can say very adept... and it also seems contextualy wrong...I mean, adept at moving quickly? Is this a choice on how fast you move?

they are relatively light-weight and usually...

light-weighted right?

•However, they are also surprisingly durable.

a living thing can be durable? As I know this can only be used for objects.... and what is the sense here? They're strong or?

•Can live anywhere so long as high perches are available

as long as

branches, or both •cubes, honey, or tree sap.

Unnecesary commas

I haven't unlocked all the infos yet so there might be more

 

adept is fine

light-weight is correct

durable does usually apply to things rather than beings!

so long as/as long as - interchangeable in this context; as is usually in written form, so in spoken

not sure about the comma issue and I don't seem to have unlocked that one! XD

 

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1 hour ago, camelia2 said:

I'm not native speaker, but for me, Starsinger's pedia seems bugged with mistakes

•Are not very adept at moving quickly on all fours

I don't think you can say very adept... and it also seems contextualy wrong...I mean, adept at moving quickly? Is this a choice on how fast you move?

they are relatively light-weight and usually...

light-weighted right?

•However, they are also surprisingly durable.

a living thing can be durable? As I know this can only be used for objects.... and what is the sense here? They're strong or?

•Can live anywhere so long as high perches are available

as long as

branches, or both •cubes, honey, or tree sap.

Unnecesary commas

I haven't unlocked all the infos yet so there might be more

 

 

- You can definitely intensify “adept”, you can be exceptionally adept, especially adept, so you can definitely be “not very adept”

 

- Light-weight is an adjective, so the dragon can be lightweight. If anything, my issue with it is that it should be “lightweight”, one word, not hyphenated :P

 

- “Durable” can be used to describe a being/person, meaning “to have endurance”, although it’s a pretty informal use of the word. I don’t think anything is strictly wrong with it though.

 

- “So long as” is just as accurate as “as long as”. While I prefer the latter, it’s technically fine

 

- Those are Oxford commas - perfectly viable!

 

Edit: Oops, Ninja’d by Lagie!! :ph34r:

Edited by RealWilliamShakespeare

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So... Noticed that the Striped River Dragon seems to have an extra dash in encyclopedia in the breed name. It's reading as "Striped-river Dragon", while the breed description on the view pages doesn't have the -.

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