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Have you ever been pissed when your skywing X water/deepsea pair gave an egg, but it failed to be a bluna? Have you ever been pissed when your water X magi pair gave an egg, but it failed to be a goldfish? You might have not realised it then, but that moment was the birth of a fail egg!

Have you ever thought about a bluna or a goldfish or an ultraviolet with pretty even or staircase lineages that only have the original breed in it? Then maybe you can value the fail eggs your failbreedings give: they are the next important step in a long, pretty lineage.

 

 

This is a gathering place of failbred dragons, a place for contact, encouragement, gifting and trading eggs, and planning pretty lineages! There is no spreadsheet yet, but if I get help and ideas, I think it would be useful!

 

 

 

What are the possible dragons in these lineage groups?

Failbluna (fluna, faluna) dragons:

Second-gen failbluna dragons come from a CB skywing and a CB water or deepsea. They are either skywings or water/deepsea, but never bluna. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. example

Third even-gen failbluna dragons come from two failbluna second-gen dragons when the pair in theory could make a bluna egg. Like, a failbluna skywing bred with a second-gen failbluna deepsea or a second-gen failbluna water. At this point, it would be useful to decide whether your failblunas would have deepsea or water genes or maybe both of them. example (Any suggestion of the naming? How shall we call a failbluna that has deepsea genes but no water gene, and how shall we call a failbluna that has water genes but no deepsea? And how shall we call a failbluna who has both water and deepsea in its pedigree?)

Staircase third-gen failbluna dragons come from a second-gen failbluna bred with a CB of the opposite breed. Again, it would be nice to know how to call a failbluna with deepsea, with water, or with both breeds. deepsea example water example

Fourth even-gen failbluna dragons come from two even third gen failblunas. You guessed it right.

Staircase fourth-gen failbluna dragons come from a third gen staircase failbluna bred with a CB of the certain breed. You guessed it right.

 

 

Failshallow (fallow, failfish) dragons:

Second-gen failshallow dragons come from a CB magi and a CB water. They are either water or magi, but never a shallow water goldfish dragon.

Third even-gen failshallow dragons come from a second-gen failshallow magi bred with a second-gen failshallow water. example

Staircase third-gen failshallow dragons come from a second-gen failshallow water bred with a CB magi or a second-gen failshallow magi bred with a CB water.

Fourth even-gen failshallow dragons come from two even third gen failshallows. You guessed it right. example

Staircase fourth-gen failshallow dragons come from a third gen staircase failshallow bred with a CB of the certain breed. You guessed it right.

 

 

Failviolet dragons:

Because laws of biology apply here!

Mendel's law in Dragcave practice: F2 generation giving the parent's fenotype.

Dragcave law in practice: a 5th gen stairstep of spitfire and ultraviolet. It looks like a fractal, doesn't it?

 

 

Failpeace dragons:

Like this beauty: http://dragcave.net/lineage/Ftcd4

 

 

 

Questions, answers

What happens if I try to breed a failbluna or a failshallow or a failviolet, but I get a bluna / goldfish / ultraviolet?

That means you failed to fail! Congratulations! Now you have a hard-to-get-breed dragon with an awesome lineage! bluna example goldfish example You can't use it in this project, anyway.

 

Can I breed a resulting bluna or goldfish to a fail dragon? example

Sure you can, but it's not what the project is about.

 

Can I breed a resulting ultraviolet to a fail dragon?

Sure you can, UV genetics are awesome and complicated. Because this can happen.

 

Can I breed a failbluna water dragon to a failshallow magi dragon? Or a failbluna skywing dragon to a failshallow water dragon?

Sure. That would be the epic fail! third gen example fifth gen example

 

Can I include failviolet dragons in an epic fail project?

It would be interesting to see these fail dragons in one neat lineage. For now, I will call them ultra fails!

 

Any naming ideas or suggestion for the fail dragons of the lineage?

Since we can rename our dragons now, you are free to rename all your fails with FAIL in their names. I don't recommend naming a CB dragon Fail, unless they failed to give you a bluna/goldfish EVER. You don't have to name the fails Fails, anyway. It's not the name that makes them fail.....

 

 

 

 

 

If you want to join, please post here

-your forum name

-your scroll name

-and whether you take part in the failbluna or failshallow or failviolet lineage projects.

 

 

Failbluna participants:

Emerald_Shadowclaw

Darth Krande

gravija

Tamahaganae

Moviegraphix

Astreya

olympe

Xocowolf

Sir Barton

LightningRip

Son_in_Aquarius

Lilala

Lolchen

AlternateMew

PonyGurl

Peace*out

Irys

klinneah

tjsweepers

 

Failshallow participants:

Emerald_Shadowclaw

gravija

Tamahaganae (later)

Moviegraphix

ElayneDragonLover

olympe

Sir Barton

LightningRip

Son_in_Aquarius

Lilala

PonyGurl

Peace*out

Irys

Valfaris

klinneah

 

Participants of the epic fail:

Lilala (third gen)

Tamahaganae (fifth gen)

Emerald_Shadowclaw (no egg yet)

 

Failviolet participants:

Sister of the Dragon

Tamahaganae

Dimar

 

Participants of the ultra fail:

herobrine745

 

Failhorse participants:

Tamahaganae

 

Failpeace participants:

Lavinia

 

Failgeode participants:

Ha-Ki

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is my first own lineage project, any help would be welcome!

 

 

 

 

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Would this dragon count? /wants to breed to a failbluna

http://dragcave.net/lineage/XPqE

 

Forum and scroll name: Emerald_Shadowclaw

Wants to take part in: Both~

 

 

EDIT: My planned name for the failbluna DOESN'T include fail, but the thing it's referring to is fail, so...that allowed?

Edited by Emerald_Shadowclaw

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That is a pretty second-gen failshallow! She even has "fail" in her name.

 

 

You don't have to name them Fail, it is only a suggestion. They fail when the egg is laid, when you can't even name them yet.

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I've bred so many failblunas and failshallows it's not even funny. If I can start putting my fails into a lineage that would make it worthwhile to start breeding them again.

 

Forum name: gravija

Scroll name: gravija

Lineage: Both if I can. If not, I'll start with failblunas.

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That is a pretty second-gen failshallow! She even has "fail" in her name.

 

 

You don't have to name them Fail, it is only a suggestion. They fail when the egg is laid, when you can't even name them yet.

Yup, it's a reference to the Failboat of deviantART xd.png

 

You attempt to breed the two dragons, but no egg is produced.

^My Bluna pair...wanted a failbluna but no luck today x_X

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Lineage: Both if I can. If not, I'll start with failblunas.

The only thing that's limiting us in doing both fail lineages at the same time is the egg/hatchling limit.

*hopes we get the new limits soon*

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Hm, true. I'm going to start working on the failshallow now and hopefully I can still build it up nicely even with a 4 egg limit.

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What a great idea!

 

I'm just starting to breed for Blunas, so this comes at a perfect time for me.

 

Please add me to the FailBluna list.

 

I will also start breeding for FailShallows once I have a good stock of FailBlunas so I can have an Epicfail <3

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I added you to all three lists, just let me know when the "(later)" can be removed smile.gif

 

Could someone please do a few badges please? For FailBluna, FailShallow, and also, for the Epic Fail!

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Darnit. I released a couple failed shallows to the AP two days ago (I'm doing an even gen shallow project). Hmm. I can probably donate some second gens to you guys since my third gens should all be shallows when I get going. Or maybe I'll join in myself? LOL. Oh, what the heck.

 

Forum name: Moxiegraphix

Scroll name: Moxiegraphix

Put me in for both failbluna and failshallow

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I already started a failed shallow so add me to the list!

 

your forum name: ElayneDragonLover

your scroll name: http://dragcave.net/user/ElayneDragonLover

 

Sign me up for Failshallow

 

What I already have:

 

Checkboard 3rd gen fail:

http://dragcave.net/lineage/ddPL

 

Fail at failed 3rd gen from a different pair:

http://dragcave.net/lineage/EeTl

 

Hoping I get a magi next time I bred them for a 4th gen (and they like each other)

 

I'll be happy to bred 3rd gens for people in exchange for more 2nd gen male water X female magi.

 

 

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Thanks for adding me! I'll be sure to let you know when I swap back to breeding shallows =) If only I had more egg space..... or fewer breeding projects!

 

And I have my first failbluna!

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Hmm, I'm in. I think I should have a couple of failblunas and/or failshallows so far.

 

Hmm, naming suggestions:

fail bluna = fluna? faluna? (I think faluna sounds nicer.)

fail shallow: fallow? failfish (fail goldfish)? foldfish?

 

I wouldn't distinguish between the different kinds of blunas (skywing x deep sea, skywing x water, skywing x both in different generations), though.

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Okay, I had a look at my scroll and found three flunas. smile.gif

http://dragcave.net/lineage/j86d

http://dragcave.net/lineage/qomX

http://dragcave.net/lineage/W3Iu (3rd gen staircase!)

 

No failfish, though.

 

Edit: Just bred another fluna: http://dragcave.net/lineage/IniY Will influence it female for a 3rd gen even gen.

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If someone needs Fail Blunas from me - I can breed the following CB Pairs in hope they will fail when needed biggrin.gif

 

CB Water + CB Skywing:

Aquaia-Skyvaion

Aquaeia-Skyvilan

Aquaaia-Skyveion

Aquaina-Skyvaeion

Skythaia-Aquaion

Skyvaia-Aquaeion

Skytha-Aquaaion (best fail pair evar!)

Skytheia-Aquaeeon

 

CB Ocean + CB Skywing:

Oceanaia-Skyvilaion

Oceaneia-Skyvion

Skyveia-Oceanaion

Skyvaina-Oceaneion

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This is an awesome idea and olympe's names are fantastic. Made me actually happy with this outcome. http://dragcave.net/lineage/ZdNj ,my first retained Fluna.

 

I would love to join this lineage. My progress will be slow going until we get the increased limits but I'd love to work with Flunas and Failfishes.

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I added you. Will you also go for the epic fail?

Is here anyone here who already has an epic fail dragon?

 

 

Other: I just collected together my failblunas (most of them were grabbed from the AP) and almost all my second gen skywings are male.

 

http://dragcave.net/lineage/Auv2

http://dragcave.net/lineage/dPAS

http://dragcave.net/lineage/kaMR

http://dragcave.net/lineage/tcVF

http://dragcave.net/lineage/lgtS

http://dragcave.net/lineage/5Koc

against

http://dragcave.net/lineage/WRmc

 

Deepseas and waters are more balanced, though. If anyone needs them for a lineage, I can try breeding any of them. Only, I'm working on a Tempest lineage and I keep locking myself.

I need the new limits. NOW.

 

 

 

Also: if we want checkerboard failbluna lineages, I suggest we take the skywing as a reference. Skywing-male checker and Skywing-female checker lineages, with deepsea, or water, or both.

With failfish, it is simpler since it only goes with two breeds. Magimom checkerboards and Watermom checkerboards. Or shall we call them Magimom and Magidad checkers?

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i can make you some banners, badge, what you need for the lineage if you want

 

check my banner stand (link in my signature) to see examples of my work so you can decide wether or not i do them wink.gif

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ok then, tell me, how would you like them, like the ones in my signature or with other dimenssions?

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Regarding the naming of the lineages, I'd prefer to name them after the water or deep sea partents for failblunas and after the magi parents for failshallows.

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