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Usually I do not post trades and this time I did, just out of curiosity, to see how perfectly reasonable opinions translate on real trading.

Here is a casual list of what people, Wanting CB Almandines, have been offering lately in the Trading section:

- 4th Gen Prize

- 3rd Gen Prize

- 2nd Gen Silver

- CB Silver

- 3rd Gen Silver

- 2nd Gen Gold

- 3rd Gen Gold

- CB Xeno

- 2nd Gen Prizekin

Let's say that there's not a lot of correlation between the rarity of the CB Almandines and their value smile.gif

That's a pretty large range of "wants." I find it hard to tell what almandines are worth just because so many people have it in their posts as a reflex/just in case want.

 

When I caught an almandine a couple of months back, I think the best I was offered for it was a CB silver? Ended up keeping it.

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I had an Almandine up for trade few weeks ago, not asking for anything over the top just best of of Storm/Grey hatchies or CB Imperial hatchies, (nice and easy) smile.gif i thought asking for 25 was a good and fair trade unsure.gif but not to ones wanting it sad.gif maybe they should look at how long it will take them to catch an Almandine compared to how long to do an IOU trade without causing disruptions to their own plans smile.gif

 

i have given up hunting for them now, waste of time and egg space for next to nothing

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Usually I do not post trades and this time I did, just out of curiosity, to see how perfectly reasonable opinions translate on real trading.

Here is a casual list of what people, Wanting CB Almandines, have been offering lately in the Trading section:

- 4th Gen Prize

- 3rd Gen Prize

- 2nd Gen Silver

- CB Silver

- 3rd Gen Silver

- 2nd Gen Gold

- 3rd Gen Gold

- CB Xeno

- 2nd Gen Prizekin

Let's say that there's not a lot of correlation between the rarity of the CB Almandines and their value smile.gif

....and the daft thing I've noticed is that, when someone's offering something of nominally "high" value (e.g. 3G Prize, CB Silver), they're often asking for multiple Almand/Spess eggs. rolleyes.gif I find this hilarious given that I've seen more Golds (well, one Gold!) and Silvers in the Alpine recently, and I've been looking. Whereas I haven't seen a CB Almandine in the Alpine for a while. DC trading. It is a crapshoot. rolleyes.gif

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I was able to trade an almandine for a cb silver not too long ago, maybe right after christmas, I think.

At any rate it involved a certain amount of luck.

a.) the person trading always seems to have cb metals to trade

b.) they don't mind trading generously for what they want, because at the time almandines didn't seem to be as hard to get as they are now.

c.) their trades seem to go really fast so being in the right place at the right time makes all the difference

 

I know a lot of people get impatient also, but for something rare i'd leave the trade up for as long as possible, even two weeks if necessary, just to make sure that people actually had a chance to get what you want for your rare.

....and the daft thing I've noticed is that, when someone's offering something of nominally "high" value (e.g. 3G Prize, CB Silver), they're often asking for multiple Almand/Spess eggs.  rolleyes.gif  I find this hilarious given that I've seen more Golds (well, one Gold!) and Silvers in the Alpine recently, and I've been looking.  Whereas I haven't seen a CB Almandine in the Alpine for a while.  DC trading.  It is a crapshoot.  rolleyes.gif

I think that Amazon_warrior's post already indirectly answered Tawanda's. A CB Silver is a decent trade but, based on my experience, people that catch Almandines, can catch Silvers and Golds as well. They drop with the same frequency but, while metals drop in every biome, Almandines drop only in the Alpine and that makes them quite rarer. Not only... in general, there are more people in the Alpine than in the other biomes and that makes things even harder.

One could argue that is easier to breed Almandines than metals and that 2nd Gen Almandines are worthless. True... but 2nd Gen metals are not that valuable either.

I love the sprite (although I wish they were gender-dimorphic) and will keep hunting for them, keeping them in my scroll or gifting. "DC trading. It is a crapshoot. " sounds about right, will just avoid it as usual smile.gif

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I had an Almandine up for trade few weeks ago, not asking for anything over the top just best of of Storm/Grey hatchies or CB Imperial hatchies, (nice and easy) smile.gif i thought asking for 25 was a good and fair trade unsure.gif but not to ones wanting it sad.gif maybe they should look at how long it will take them to catch an Almandine compared to how long to do an IOU trade without causing disruptions to their own plans smile.gif

 

i have given up hunting for them now, waste of time and egg space for next to nothing

I was going to go for that but I hadn't any hatchies ready and not enough space to lay more than one egg. So - it wasn't so much that no-one wanted it !

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I had an Almandine up for trade few weeks ago, not asking for anything over the top just best of of Storm/Grey hatchies or CB Imperial hatchies, (nice and easy) smile.gif i thought asking for 25 was a good and fair trade unsure.gif but not to ones wanting it sad.gif maybe they should look at how long it will take them to catch an Almandine compared to how long to do an IOU trade without causing disruptions to their own plans smile.gif

 

i have given up hunting for them now, waste of time and egg space for next to nothing

I don't understand DCers. Not long ago I really wanted something, entered an IOU and cheerfully paid 75 hatchies. Took time and effort but shouldn't that be normal? No idea why someone that really wanted a CB Almandine would not "work" on providing 25 Grey or CB Imperial hatchies.

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I had an Almandine up for trade few weeks ago, not asking for anything over the top just best of of Storm/Grey hatchies or CB Imperial hatchies, (nice and easy) smile.gif  i thought asking for 25 was a good and fair trade unsure.gif  but not to ones wanting it  sad.gif  maybe they should look at how long it will take them to catch an Almandine compared to how long to do an IOU trade without causing disruptions to their own plans smile.gif

 

i have given up hunting for them now, waste of time and egg space for next to nothing

I remember PMing you regarding that, was willing to do 25 hatchies but didn't get a reply from you sadly. 25 to 30 seems pretty fair too me.

 

Anyway, I spotted someone offering 2 CB Silvers for 1 CB Almandine yesterday at eatw, that seems nice too.

 

Regarding huge IOUs, it's the commitment needed that causes hesitatation. Personally I will definitely look to fulfill all IOUs, that leaves me tied to DC. No offense but I like to be able to leave and not play anytime I want. DC is pretty slow-going. Also it ties the other party too, he/she has to be available to accept trades too. Most of the time I rather negotiate something to replace some of those hatchies for fast completion.

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What could I get from:

CB Female Rainbow Copper

CB Red Dorsal

CB GW Egg

CB Paper Egg

CB Male Thunder Hatchy

CB Thunder Egg

CB Mageia Xeno Hatchy

?

 

I don't want any of them. (I hope I could get an almandine :3)

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Usually I do not post trades and this time I did, just out of curiosity, to see how perfectly reasonable opinions translate on real trading.

Here is a casual list of what people, Wanting CB Almandines, have been offering lately in the Trading section:

- 4th Gen Prize

- 3rd Gen Prize

- 2nd Gen Silver

- CB Silver

- 3rd Gen Silver

- 2nd Gen Gold

- 3rd Gen Gold

- CB Xeno

- 2nd Gen Prizekin

Let's say that there's not a lot of correlation between the rarity of the CB Almandines and their value smile.gif

I wouldn't pay an Almandine for any of those things either, so I don't blame you. But if you did happen to want any of those things, you'd definitely get it with one! tongue.gif

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I wouldn't pay an Almandine for any of those things either, so I don't blame you. But if you did happen to want any of those things, you'd definitely get it with one! tongue.gif

That's reassuring smile.gif

In this thread, we make "informed/educated guesses" on the value of eggs/hatchies , considering rarity, effort needed to catch/breed them etc. And we can't avoid being puzzled by the trading reality, when it clashes with our rationales smile.gif

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I'm a little afraid to post this, but I have this question that I cannot even pretend is hypothetical:

 

So, how many influenced and hatched CB lunar heralds would one ask for for the iou of a 2g bronze prize? From a holiday, or from a rare/uncommon?

 

I'd love an idea of what sounds fair. I have no idea, you see.

 

P.S. I usually reply to all PMs, but in this one instance, I'm not going to respond to anyone offering themselves for this arrangement. I'd just like some feedback on this thread, plz.

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I had an Almandine up for trade few weeks ago, not asking for anything over the top just best of of Storm/Grey hatchies or CB Imperial hatchies, (nice and easy) smile.gif  i thought asking for 25 was a good and fair trade unsure.gif  but not to ones wanting it  sad.gif  maybe they should look at how long it will take them to catch an Almandine compared to how long to do an IOU trade without causing disruptions to their own plans smile.gif

 

i have given up hunting for them now, waste of time and egg space for next to nothing

I've been a long time player, since 08, and tbh it's trades like this why I don't trade much anymore. Things are getting ridiculous and out of control. I miss the days when people were reasonable in their trades.

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I'm a little afraid to post this, but I have this question that I cannot even pretend is hypothetical:

 

So, how many influenced and hatched CB lunar heralds would one ask for for the iou of a 2g bronze prize? From a holiday, or from a rare/uncommon?

 

I'd love an idea of what sounds fair. I have no idea, you see.

 

P.S. I usually reply to all PMs, but in this one instance, I'm not going to respond to anyone offering themselves for this arrangement. I'd just like some feedback on this thread, plz.

Hmmm. I think this would largely depend on how much you, and whoever you ended up trading with, are willing to be tied to the game. I'm a bit uncertain as to the actual rarity of Lunars at the moment (people seem to think they're getting rarer?) but between ten and twenty should definitely be reasonable. You could easily ask for more if you didn't mind a longer wait, as few people are willing to dedicate all their eggs slots to an IOU. Best bet- maybe do some sort of bidding process? I don't know where you could do that, since it'd be trading an IOU... maybe you could advertise it in your sig?

I wish you the best of luck! smile.gif

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I'm a little afraid to post this, but I have this question that I cannot even pretend is hypothetical:

 

So, how many influenced and hatched CB lunar heralds would one ask for for the iou of a 2g bronze prize? From a holiday, or from a rare/uncommon?

 

I'd love an idea of what sounds fair. I have no idea, you see.

 

P.S. I usually reply to all PMs, but in this one instance, I'm not going to respond to anyone offering themselves for this arrangement. I'd just like some feedback on this thread, plz.

You cannot actually ASK anything for an IOU. You can post when you HAVE a 2 gen, and you can ask for however many hatchies or something - and invite PMs.

 

I did see a trade for something else, not long ago where the trader said the egg would go to "best offer of grey hatchies", so you could always try that.

 

 

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You cannot actually ASK anything for an IOU. You can post when you HAVE a 2 gen, and you can ask for however many hatchies or something - and invite PMs.

 

I did see a trade for something else, not long ago where the trader said the egg would go to "best offer of grey hatchies", so you could always try that.

No, they could do what they're proposing, as long as they didn't just post it in the trade forums. Simply being active with a large note about it in their sig could be enough.

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No, they could do what they're proposing, as long as they didn't just post it in the trade forums. Simply being active with a large note about it in their sig could be enough.

True - but the post implied to me that trading forums were what toyofubl had in mind. So best be clear biggrin.gif

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You cannot actually ASK anything for an IOU. You can post when you HAVE a 2 gen, and you can ask for however many hatchies or something - and invite PMs.

 

I did see a trade for something else, not long ago where the trader said the egg would go to "best offer of grey hatchies", so you could always try that.

 

I'm not going to post an IOU trade, don't worry smile.gif

 

Edit: Whoops, forgot the rest! Thanks for the answers/pointers. This way I'll have a vague idea of what is too much or too little, and maybe make things easier on everybody by spreading it out a bit. Thanks again!

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What could I get from:

CB Female Rainbow Copper

CB Red Dorsal

CB GW Egg

CB Paper Egg

CB Male Thunder Hatchy

CB Thunder Egg

CB Mageia Xeno Hatchy

?

 

I don't want any of them. (I hope I could get an almandine :3)

If you want a CB Almandine I don't think you could get it with them - reading some last posts you could say that CB Almandine is now rarer than even CB Golds, fair offer seems at least 2 CB Silvers for 1 CB Almandine. Maybe you could get 1 CB Spessartine for them all. But if you don't need Almandine to be CB I think you could get 2G Almandine for 1-2 of your dragons.

 

You can swap your Red Copper for Brown Copper, maybe for Green Copper (adding Xeno and something else might help with it). You can also swap Thunder/Xeno for some other Xenos/Trios.

 

Combining some of them you could get most things that worth less than CB Red Copper: CB Xenos (1 CB or more, depends of rarity), Blusang, Trios, Unbreedables, Seasonals, BSA hatchlings (a few), Uncommons or Commons (a few, eggs or hatchlings) - CB or bred from specific lineages. It depends what do you want and if you're willing to accept IOU's smile.gif

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I wonder if I could do an IOU with storm hatchies. I'm collecting them in case people need them for the Holly Contest. I know that I am not joining, so I do not need them.

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I don't see why not. Though you might have more chances by offering instead of asking for something. At least that's how I got a CB Silver recently.

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What is the rarest dragon you could seek in exchange for a CB Blusang?

CB Blusangs aren't hard to get anymore. You could maybe swap it for one of the easier to get Xenos or an unbreedable or some common CB hatchlings. But I wouldn't expect much personally.

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Is there a reason that there's been an influx of users asking for storm/gray hatchlings in particular? Has their value changed recently in some way? It could just be the same user's requests that I keep noticing, I forget to look at usernames.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, just noticed MadameZ's post above me. smile.gif That explains it.

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I know the releases for March are still new so the trade value is changing. But are they (Sapphire and/or Antarean) worth 1:1 2nd gen prizes?

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I know the releases for March are still new so the trade value is changing. But are they (Sapphire and/or Antarean) worth 1:1 2nd gen prizes?

Definitely not. I could barely get a 3G Prize from them when they first released. If the rarity becomes Alamandine-like, maybe, but at the moment, no. I might be wrong, though. Someone might do it.

 

However, if it helps, the most recent trade I did was 1 Dust hatchie for two 2G Balloons from Thalassas (of course, that's what I asked for). I guess it depends how bad the person wants new releases. I'm currently asking for CB Balloons (2 for one new egg) or CB Red/Green Nebulas, and no bites so far.

 

 

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