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  1. I'm suffering serious lag where I otherwise wouldn't.
  2. Someone named the vampired offspring of my Love-You-Anyhow and Sentimental-Melody (I always end up giving pinks maudlin names ) Lovely Melody Cryptdweller. I was completely chuffed to see it. I try to do the same, though sometimes it's difficult, because almost all my dragons have phrase names. If a dragon's name isn't a word, I'm not going to try incorporating it.
  3. I joined this game so I could name things, first and foremost. I name them as soon as they've hatched, before they can gender.
  4. I can't really suspend my disbelief in blatant racism and ablism being bad things, no matter how nice the visuals might be. But that's a conversation for a very different occasion. That's the other reason I really don't want one to show up--because I don't trust myself not to click it, lol, and I'd really rather not. Anyway, I got the swan egg! And I'm also completely in love with this one:
  5. Philosophical opposition to the entire film. It's a very nice egg, but it's emblematic of a film I find deeply problematic, and so I don't want it on my scroll.
  6. My favourite so far is the first one I got: And I hope everyone else gets all the Avatar ones, because that's the last egg on Earth I'd want to collect. >>;
  7. tintinlachance

    Twilight

    We are going to have to agree to disagree, because that's actually the opposite of my point. I think we might be looking at the concept of the vampire in radically different ways. I see it as a mutable idea across cultures based in the fear of having one's life force sucked away, with "vampire" not referring to a specific Dracula-like creature but a whole array of manifestations of this fear. I assume that the good people at Cracked, Wikipedia, and a whole host of other, actually scholarly sources (lol) are coming from a similar place. You appear to be basing the concept very heavily in traditional Western culture. Which is fine if it suits you, but it doesn't invalidate my point. Also, I appreciate how you don't feel the need to look at any of the other vampires I referred to and tell me in the same breath to go out and learn something about VtM. Sorry, tabletops aren't my cuppa, nor is it the be-all and end-all to vampirism. They all die in sunlight? Well, it's a good thing VtM is where our vampire myths come from--oh, wait. Just because it plays traditional Western culture vampires fairly close to their origins doesn't make it better. It just makes it one way of doing things. Which again, is fine, but it doesn't invalidate others' choices to alter the concept more radically. I did get that part. What I mean is the "it sounds like one of those other vampires and we've never seen those as main characters because those are hard to sell on their merit or pull off as a main character. They just appear as villains or just Mindless Monster of the Chapter because they just don't appear sympathetic." part. I'm not sure what's being got at there, except that there's an invocation of tropes of some kind. By "pink novel," do you mean it in novela rosa (sentimental book aimed at women) sense? I've never heard this phrase before and want to make sure I understand what you mean. If that is what you mean, I'd appreciate it if 1) you didn't imply that because it's aimed towards women, it's slightly more understandable that it's mediocre ("I mean sure, pink novel and all that") and 2) you resisted the urge to use flaming-queer stereotypes in an attempt to make a joke. Whether you add in a disclaimer or not, I find it a bit denigrating. Frankly, I think we'll have to agree to disagree overall, because this conversation is going in circles.
  8. tintinlachance

    Twilight

    These four elements don't occur in a variety of vampire legends from around the world. Claiming that they're all necessary to make a Real Vampire is fairly ethnocentric. Moreover, as far as I can tell, the Cullens count as undead, so actually, she's only taken away two of these. Is half a passing grade here? How does one score a vampire checklist attempt?
  9. tintinlachance

    Twilight

    What I meant was, she's not confined to a coffin or anything of that sort. The sun doesn't automatically translate to insta-death for her, unlike, say, vampires in Dracula, the Southern Vampire mysteries, Let The Right One In, and a whole lot of other expressions of the vampire mythos. Sure, she has to wear sunscreen and carry a parasol, but that's not really stopping her from popping over to the Leandroses' for a pancake breakfast, is it? She's also not the undead (and neither is Cal Thompson, for that matter), if you'd prefer to sub in one of the other widespread traits of modern Western culture vampires; the Cullens actually have her one-upped on that point. What Thurman is doing with the whole "Promise can go out, she's just got to be careful" thing is the exact same thing that Meyer is doing with the whole "their skin sparkles in the sunlight!" thing. She's taking an aspect of the traits we in the Western world associate with vampires and adjusting it. She does it much more consciously than Meyer, yes, and she does it better (which is kind of sad, given how awful Thurman's own writing can be at times--cf. Trick of the Light). But they're both still playing with tropes here, and claiming that no, actually, one of them's just making stuff up and presenting us with fake vampires, that phony, is asinine. Could you clarify what you're trying to say here? I'm afraid I don't understand. I definitely agree on the illogic of her vampires in some respects, but not because they don't conform to science. (I mean, find me the science that allows Bela Lugosi to turn into a bat--doesn't that defy laws about conservation of mass times, like, a bajillion? And yet one would be laughed out of the room if one suggested that movie!Dracula and his thing for the children of the night wasn't a Real Vampire.) What I think is problematic is that they don't have quite the inner consistency that they should. The main example is that all their bodily functions basically stop when they're turned, and they go all poison-y inside instead, if I recall correctly. (Correct me if I'm wrong here, please and thank you; I know there's a major internal consistency problem involving Edward's dangly bits, but I'm not positive it's exactly this. ♥) Okay, I can work with that. But that means that Edward's sperm? Should, uh. Have turned into poison with the rest of his bodily fluids. The internal consistency of What Her Vampire Is (which is really all that's really required to keep one's suspension of disbelief going) is completely thrown off by the fact that Bella gets pregnant. That kind of thing is a problem, and a huge one, but it's a problem of logic, not science. Because she's a terrible writer, yeah. That doesn't make the concept terrible, though; it makes the execution of the concept utterly laughable. I'm not saying Meyer did an awesomesauce job writing her vampires. I am, however, saying that complaining that they don't count as Real Vampires is a poorly thought out position to take that shows a poor understanding of what makes a Real Vampire. The essence boils down to a creature whose existence depends on sucking the life force out of other creatures, generally by drinking their blood. Which, uh. The Cullens do. You might not like how they do it, and that's totally legit--there are vampires I don't like, either (O HAY THAR, ANNE RICE). But to say they're not vampires? That's absurd. They are vampires. Really, really poorly thought out vampires with some awesome ideas that don't get used to even a fraction of their full potential. And Stephenie Meyer is a terrible writer who over- and misuses the word "chagrined." But that doesn't mean she's not writing vampires. It just means she's writing vampires you don't like that she didn't think through very well.
  10. tintinlachance

    Twilight

    What I love about Twilight is that the central female protagonist has more chemistry with her supposed love interest's adopted sister than with said love interest himself. Team Alice represent. What I don't love about Twilight is that people in the hatedom use it as a reason to demand more boring vampires. Yes, Stephenie Meyer's books are the literary equivalent of cotton candy with a chemical aftertaste. But you know what? Whether it was done haplessly or not, I'm glad she wrote unusual vampires. My favourite vampire stories are the ones that do something interesting with the concept; while Meyer's writing falls hopelessly flat in places, she has some really interesting ideas. People who complain that hers are not Real Vampires ought to consider how often the basic concept of the vampire shows up--throughout a vast number of cultures throughout the world--and what an assortment of ways in which the concept is executed. Want some examples? 7 Vampires Around The World Worse Than The Ones In Twilight. "Vampire" does not, and never has, meant one specific image, whether that image was Lestat de Lioncourt, Bela Lugosi as Dracula, or the bloated, fangless thing that was traditional to many European legends. Claiming otherwise is laughable. I mean, if Meyer's vampires don't count as vampires, do Westerfeld's? Do Thurman's? Cal Thompson and Promise Nottinger can both go out in daylight without being burnt; Cal's got a parasite causing his condition, while Promise was born with it. Neither of them makes a habit of drinking the blood of humans. As far as I'm concerned, they're still both vampires, and frankly, the updating and mutating of the concept is part of what makes them interesting as characters. Meyer writing vampires the way she does isn't like labeling orange juice milk. It's like tossing in some pineapple juice to go with. She doesn't really know what to do with the concepts she's playing with, but that doesn't make the concepts bad in themselves. There are several ideas in her writing that I would absolutely love to see other writers take on; someone with more awareness of werewolf and vampire tropes in general could do neat stuff with the imprinting and the skin like diamonds and all that jazz. Oh, yeah, and Twilight is horrifically anti-feminist. That part sucks, too.