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  1. Purple badges are for event contributors such as myself.
  2. skinst

    Abortion

    I dunno, I haven't had kids myself, but human babies scare the crap out of me because I think whenever I hold one I'm going to break it. @_@ Whereas kittens make me squee in delight. ^^;
  3. skinst

    Abortion

    According to you it isn't. But you are not every single woman on this planet. You are not every single doctor on this planet. You have no idea what every single person is thinking. No, but many of them would likely jump at the chance to see abortion illegalised, not to mention probably vote for pro-birth fundies when its a voting year. That does as much damage as the picketers outside of abortion clinics. ~Removed~ How much, exactly, do you know about pregnancy and childbirth, and what it can do to the body? How much, exactly, do you know and understand about phobia's? Have you ever been pregnant before against your will? Zephyrgirl, I have asked you at least five different questions, none of which you have quoted and answered. Nor have you answered any of the other questions other users have asked you. So if you don't want people to assume you are ignoring them, please go back and answer the questions posed at you. Good to know. I answered your question on the previous page. If it doesn't satisfy you, or the other answers, pick apart the posts and ask your questions. If by hidden issues you mean "lets show the woman everything we are doing to her and force her to listen to a heartbeat and see an ultrasound that she must pay for out of pocket and likely can't afford to traumatise her," then that picture is as twisted as the Pro-Birth agenda is.
  4. skinst

    Abortion

    Pro-Life = Doesn't support abortion but tries to support the woman and the baby in any way possible. Pro-Birth = Just want's the baby born and doesn't give a damn about the woman after she's popped out the kid. Pro-Choice = Supports the choice of woman who want to have abortions regardless of their reasoning. Doesn't nessacarily like abortion. Pro-Abortion = Usually refers to someone who likes abortion from what I've seen. Hope this answers the question.
  5. skinst

    Abortion

    I physically cannot donate blood because it is far too traumatic for various reasons I won't go into here. Should I be forced to do so like a woman has to be forced to stay pregnant according to Pro-Birth beliefs?
  6. skinst

    Abortion

    On one hand, I was amazed when I saw my wisdom teeth after they were removed (I had them taken out while awake) but on the other hand, I can't handle explicit detailed explanations about medical procedures anymore than I can stand looking at them. Everyone's different. :3 The same applies here; some woman would be fine, most wouldn't be.
  7. skinst

    Abortion

    I am currently legitimately wondering if you are deliberately ignoring posts or if you are deliberately trying to feign knowledge. I think you know the answers to the questions you're asking. However, assuming I am mistaken; Yes, the fetus is a clump of cells the same way a tumor is a clump of cells. However, it can be traumatising for woman to see things being taken out of their body, regardless of what it is, as I said in my previous post above yours. The Pro-Birth agenda however is to try and force woman to change their minds while seeing an ultrasound - which would likely cost them out of pocket - of the growing fetus. Even if that fetus, logically, is a clump of cells that resembles the shape of a human being, it is traumatising. You are forgetting that emotions come into play here and not just logic. Logically, that image should have no affect on the woman if the woman knows it's just a clump of cells. However, you are not taking into account the emotions of the woman in question when she goes in to have an abortion. From all of the abortion stories I have read, few of the woman who have abortions go in completely level headed and logical; most are pretty upset and then relieved after the procedure is over. The entire idea behind an ultrasound and listening to a heartbeat is nothing more than to try and force a woman to change her mind by taking advantage of her vunerablilities, which is sickening. Assume for a moment that you have had a massive headache and found out you had a giant tumor in your brain, which is operable. Right before you go into surgery, the surgeon tells you in all its explicit, gory details exactly what he is going to do to you while you are asleep. You would have to be very used to blood, gore and goodness knows what else to just shrug such an explanation off. The same thing applies here.
  8. skinst

    Abortion

    If you mean the Pro-Birth side, which largely consists of "ABORTION IS MURDER DON'T DO IT"? I think that if a woman was considering an abortion she should be left to make her own choices without guilt trips the size of a truck shoved down her throat by the likes of those kind of people. There is no 'side' to the Pro-Birth arguement, only guilt trips and emotional war mongering. The Pro-Birth side has yet to produce any credible evidence that banning abortion would do the world any good. Frankly if I had a tumor and someone showed it to me after removing it, I'd FREAK THE HELL OUT. I don't want to see the disgusting mess that comes out of my body no matter what it is. And I bet a majority of people feel the same.
  9. I am generally extremely careful with how I phrase myself when I know someone has a disability, is gay, ect ect, however, if people get hurt because they misinterpret or overhear someone's words, that is their own problem, not mine. I refuse to take responsibility for people's misinterpretations because it isn't my responsibility to do so for someone who overheard my conversation. If they get offended by the use of the words I use, I am not at fault unless I directly address a person with the intention to insult, then it is my fault. Sorry, but I refuse to allow myself to put up with that, and no one else should either.
  10. I'm not sure how your example is even remotely compareable to words being used out of context.
  11. I have to agree. I am all for the respectful treatment of the disabled, gay and such groups, but going bananas over words that are clearly not being used to offend strikes me as being a bit too sensitive for one's own good. :/ If it's being used to offend then yeah, bring on the flaming torches. Otherwise, I think you (general) need to learn the difference between a word being used to offend and a word being used in context.
  12. skinst

    Abortion

    It is impossible to give both the mother and the fetus equal rights because then one's rights cannot superceed the other. Treating a fetus the same as a full grown adult human being is so dangerous in many respects when it comes to woman's rights.
  13. skinst

    Abortion

    It isn't a baby until it's born, and there's no guarentee it will be human until 31 weeks, well after the cutoff point for abortion, if that helps.
  14. skinst

    Abortion

    Maybe she only physically carries a fetus for an estimated 9 months, but the psycological and oftentimes physical trauma of that pregnancy can last a lifetime. There were a few older female users here whose posts have unfortunetly been lost, but catalogued their various medical ailments that have caused them grief souly due to the strain of pregnancy. Also, if you were put into slavery for 9 months, I have to wonder if you'd ever feel like dying. Most of the people I've met who have gone through forms of slavery (not the traditional kind, mind you), most certainly have. What's the difference between those rare cases and a woman who knows she cannot care for a child in her current circumstances and seeks an abortion? Her reasoning? How would you know the difference between a woman in your so called 'rare cases' and an 'ordinary' case if two woman walked into a clinic and two walked out? Fact is, you wouldn't unless you asked and personally found out. Then what would you do? Condemn a woman for her choices? Do you really think you have the right to do that to a complete stranger?
  15. You can easily retaliate by saying, "you find -insert subject matter- happy?" since 'gay' can be used to describe happiness.
  16. skinst

    Abortion

    That's all well and good, but repeatingly asking to return to the topic at hand when it's already on topic seemed to show me that you did not understand what Kestra was saying. So I figured I'd clarify my own interpretation of his words. *shrug*
  17. skinst

    Abortion

    soulesshuman, I hate to tell you, but Kestra's example and his posts have been completely on topic with the topic of Abortion. Abortion arguements use science, logic, statistics and moral stances and opinions as their bases regardless of what view a person holds. In the case of Kestra's example, it is entirely relevant to the debate because he is showcasing an extreme example where the mother's life should come second to that of the unborn fetus due to it being the more viable life to save. I maybe pro-choice, but I do realise that a fetus is a lifeform. If it is going to be the more viable life than it's host, in this case, the mother, then I do think that it should be saved, not because of whether or not its a person but simply because it is the more viable life. In that circumstance, and in only that circumstance, I would support putting a fetus over that of the mother. It's perspective, I believe, that Kestra is trying to demonstrate in regards to the Pro-Birth/Pro-Choice arguements. Sometimes, as Pro-Birther's have said to believe, it is nessacary to have an abortion, such as in times the mother's life is at stake. And on the flipside, it shows that sometimes the reverse is true. Understand now how it relates to the abortion debate?
  18. I'm an Australian size 10-12 (sometimes an 8 if it's a big 8) which is an American 4-8 I believe. It sucks that society places so much pressure on people for being overweight. I cannot judge anyone for their weight; I find it impossible to do so cause weight should not be a standard to judge a person's character.
  19. On my desk? Speakers, computer screen, keyboard, mouse, water bottle, External HD, Microphone, candle, tablet pen and lipgloss. I also eat at my desk so oftentimes I'll have food beside me.
  20. I support spoiler tags and blocking users.
  21. skinst

    Abortion

    Catholic school I went to produced some outstanding scientists. *shrug*