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  1. 1 hour ago, hazeh said:

    I think the only way then would be if the person seeking an abortion told friends or family about the situation, who then proceeded to oust them to the authorities. Otherwise, there'd be no way for them to find out, as I highly doubt an abortion provider would turn over their patients to the authorities. 


    Or, what frightens me, is the possibility that anti-abortion protesters will be taking photos of people who enter clinics to try and get them legally reprimanded if they happen to live in a state where it is considered illegal. 

    Even THEN, said protesters would need to KNOW that said individual lived in such a state.

  2. 1 hour ago, spatio said:

    I'm more focused on the reporting issue. Georgia certainly CAN arrest you IF THEY KNOW you had an abortion in another state.

    That would require a doctor in another state to break patient confidentiality laws to tell law enforcement in Georgia about a procedure their patient had done, though.

    (or you to turn yourself in, or someone you told in confidence of an unwanted pregnancy to maliciously report you)

    AND I doubt that a doc who DOES abortions is going to have enough of a problem with them to risk violating laws themselves to report on their patient in another state?


    AND as of others maliciously informing on you... Yes, some people might. Frankly tho... Georgia's law is over the top ( AND I am not necessarily a friend of abortion and I am saying that. :P)

  3. 4 hours ago, Fuzzbucket said:

    Considering that it seems that someone from another country who (may have) killed a citizen of France but not in France can be charged and tried in France, where he does not and never has lived, and where the crime did not take place.




    I fear you may indeed be wrong,. Same in N Ireland, where until recently, and I'm not sure of the current position, you can be charged and convicted for getting a legal abortion in mainland Britain...








    I'm not sure if you can still be charged when you return after having an abortion in mainland Britain, but you certainly used to be able to.

    MMMM... but murder is still a CRIME, most likely, where the murder took place.


    Interesting info and I could see the situation creating some sort of legal battle?

    The thing to remember is that US states are still quite...jealous ...of what they consider to be their powers. 


    I don't claim to be an expert on law or anything like that of course.


    After having READ some of the articles, it sounds like the situation with N. Ireland, bad as it is, is sort of... an unusual one and is being massively criticized and pressured to change. I presume that it either has or will.  I ought also add that as the case of the French citizens death... interesting case BUT extradition is always a battle. It sounds to ME like France is maybe sort of desperate to close the case... which, IMO, can be a PROBLEM if they aren't careful to make SURE they have the right person?


    In any case, interesting points.


    As you say... possible I am wrong, BUT I would also say I still forsee a fight if Georgia pushes it.




  4. 35 minutes ago, bloodyneptune said:

    Theres are 12 candles on the cake, two of each color, and then a 13th non-colored one....nobody tell me this is crazy! They're dragons based on things specifically collected to make another thing. And they had to be collected twice.


    .....nobody take this hope from me

    Interesting theory and... if I may... totally like TJ to set up something like that. :P 


    So no, I don't think CRAZY at all.

    Well, We will find out. I have a pair of each, SO I can investigate once mine all grow up!

  5. 4 minutes ago, Fuzzbucket said:

    Yes it WOULD still take a slot on their scroll. But honest people who are looking to trade without their trades being bombed wouldn't mind that.


    You're right though - it can't be that huge a problem. So as I said in the first place, before I tried to work this out ! - just stop the timer AND the views on things in trade.

    Yes, I can agree... people's dragons getting bombed while in trade is a far more troublesome problem than possible hoarding of eggs and stashing them with the timer off.

  6. 3 hours ago, Fuzzbucket said:

    But that would also allow the possibility for hoarding. OK how about the time stops long with view - but if the thing gets down to its usual ToD, it dies anyway. So if you had that holiday egg in a teleport and it was there for 7 days - it wouldn't survive the trade, even though the timer had stopped ?.





    Wouldn't said egg still occupy a slot on their scroll? I have a hard time believing anyone would WANT to keep an egg around a whole month after a holiday, to use the example given, and occupying valuable space on their scroll. AND if they are willing to pay that price, maybe that is the trade-off? I don't see it as a problem, even. *Shrugs* maybe just me, tho. If someone WANTS to hang onto an egg for an unreasonable amount of time to attempt the perfect trade? I don't see the issue with it. As I said, PROVIDED that eggie in a  trade still occupies a slot. They might not EVEN get what hey are hoping for it. Personally, I wouldn't PAY the price someone in August would be asking for a CB Holiday. Especially not knowing that there is a very good chance that they will drop again when the holidays role around again.

  7. may I submit my thanks tot he artists that made these lovelies?


    They are all magnificent.... so much detail!

    I had high hopes for them after last years Hogwarts four, and I wasn't disappointed at all! :)


    Thank you artists! Now... off to catch my second Gloris! XD


  8. 4 hours ago, Lantean_Pegasus said:

    I just caught my second batch of Infinities ! :wub: 

    Well, I unhid the first 8, one by one, to influence and incubate. Let them hatch. Caught the new ones. And then I hid the 8 hatchies and the 8 eggs, one by one.


    If the infinity set summons another dragon, and if that dragons has a BSA, I have a great idea for it:


    "SNAP! They are gone..." - Hides all your visible eggs and growing creatures at once.

    "SNAP! You brought them back !" - Unhides all your hidden eggs and growing creatures at once.


    It might not be 50% of them, but I'd say it's close enough, and boy, would it be convenient during releases. ;)

    Ooooh! Yes PLEASE that'd be SO useful at times!

  9. Ugggg....

    I am SOooo frustrated with myself right now.


    Make a long story short, I sort of screwed up. No, make that I DID screw up.


    I needen't get into the how and why but.... suffice it to say that I said I'd do something I then forgot to do. 

    I didn't INTEND to forget. AND I apologized for my failure. I just... still feel rotten about it.


  10. On 5/17/2019 at 12:12 PM, spatio said:

    Thing is, I'm not entirely sure how Georgia plans on enforcing that?  People travel between states all the time, and it's not like every time someone gets pregnant they report it to their local law enforcement.  They'd have to require the doctors in other states to report back to GA authorities that a woman from GA had an abortion, and I'm not an expert on politics, but I'm pretty sure one state can't make a law applicable only to people who don't even live in that state.  The only way they would know would be if GA ob/gyns had to report that their patient appears to have miscarried/aborted a pregnancy the Dr. was previously were unaware of, and that sounds like a major patient privacy violation. 


    So... I guess it's just for people who feel like turning themselves in, or people maliciously reporting other people?  Even then I'm not sure how they could prove one person's claim that another person had had an abortion without, again, some major patient privacy law violations.


    And literally wtf on making miscarriage illegal? So, even if you really wanted a baby, and had planned on a pregnancy, but got in a car accident/etc and were severely injured and ended up miscarrying, you'd be punished on top of your health care bills?  I need to read this for myself.  Because, if that's the case, that's not anti-abortion, that's just plain oppression against women (and their partners, who also wanted a kid... literally just what??)

    This is my thought on "Georgia going after women that have abortions in other states."


    IF it isn't against the law where the abortion happened... I don't see what they can really do?

    That would be like the police in Wisconsin, for example, arresting you because you smoked pot in Colorado ( where, as I understand it, it is NOT against the law).

    Assuming you aren't under the influence or have any with you in Wisconsin, of course.


    I don't think it can be done AND.... abortion issue aside, I think a LOT of people would object to the states being able to interfere with each other like that. 

    It wouldn't END well, I feel pretty sure.


    State Laws are NOT FEDERAL Laws. AFAIK ONLY apply in the state that has them ( Others may correct me if I am wrong, of course?)

  11. 2 hours ago, ValidEmotions said:

    We can't forget that this bill and police are going to specifically target WOC and women of poverty. 

    Has anyone seen the sections that criminalizes miscarriages? And criminalizes women who go out of state to get a legal abortion (although, I think the language specifies criminalizing the doctors--who live in another state--for providing legal abortions)?


    EDIT to add: For the conservative men and women who are excited to have this bill because "life starts at conception and abortion is murder" -- how do you feel about going to jail for second degree murder because you (or your wife) had a miscarriage?

    Thing is...miscarriages can happen and it isn't USUALLY anybody's fault. 

    So absolutely NO to women being punished for having miscarriages.

    I would add that I believe even the scripture, if you believe in such, may imply there IS a difference. In the Old Testament Law, there is Exodus 21:22-23. Admittedly, there are differences on the translation and interpretation, here, but one commonly accepted interpretation is that if a man caused a woman to have a miscarriage, he was to receive a punishment ( often a fine payed to the husband of the woman) but that if the woman herself survived he wasn't punished as a murderer. if the woman , herself died as a result, on the other hand, then he received the penalty of a murderer. As I said, there are disagreements on this and there are those that say no it refers to premature birth. At said, interesting and worth considering. The research i did indicated that Jewish tradition has been arguing over that particular passage for a while... well before we Christians had to deal with it. So NO you absolutely cannot say that scripture teaches a woman ought to be punished for miscarrying. NO.

  12. 6 hours ago, Cecona said:


    Just want to address the birth control part of this post, nothing else. As wonderful as it would be if everyone could have birth control to prevent abortions, it doesn't always work and actually a lot of abortions are preformed on women who's birth control failed. Unless we were to live in a completely perfect world there is no way we would be able to avoid all abortions being preformed. The best we can do is educate everyone and provide access to proper care. Which is not making abortions illegal.

    *Nods* I know that what we have isn't perfect. BUT that isn't any reason NOT to use it. More importantly not to know HOW to use it.


    It also isn't any reason they ought not to look for new and better methods that fail less often. 


    Are we going to be able to prevent ANY abortions from being performed... sadly, NO. Not even making it illegal can accomplish that, from what I have been given to understand.  IF desperate women feel the need for them badly enough, they WILL happen, regardless of the risk... and regardless of what anyone else thinks. I understand, that much. But if better knowledge an more education can reduce the need for them... then absolutely that is what we need to do. What bugs me are the cases where ignorance is the issue and an abortion could have been made far less likely if people had had better information. So yes, I can totally agree with you in that we DO need to be educating people, and doing more research into the subject. You hear about some of the ignorant ideas some people have about how the human body works sexually and it is like... they have no idea and of COURSE they are going to run into trouble. IF we are giving people a choice, that only works if they also have information to make an informed one. NO excuse for the kind of ignorance you sometimes hear about.


    Is that naive and idealistic? Perhaps, but that is what I think.

  13. 4 minutes ago, ValidEmotions said:

    Well, see... rape isn't extramarital sex and.... well the girl is 11 years old. I don't think "did you remember to take Birth Control?" applies to this kind of situation.

    I was primarily addressing Cecona's post, however, i have went back and edited to include some your specific example as well. 

    Agreed that rape isn't the same as consensual sex at ALL. 



  14. 1 hour ago, Cecona said:

    That is the most disgusting part of this, it doesn't care what the reason is. I think the ONLY exception is if the mother is in immediate danger from the pregnancy, I'm not even sure if they will do it if it's dangerous for the woman later on in the pregnancy. It's horrible, it's backwards, it doesn't take into account ANYTHING about women's health. The only thing it does is cause more harm, more deaths, more unwanted children, more people that will end up abused and unloved, and wishing they HAD been aborted. It's the sad, sad truth.


    9 hours ago, Cecona said:

    The law passed in Georgia and like 13-15 other states are in the process of trying to get it passed as well. I understand that where you live it might be rare for people to be against abortion and birth control, but in my experience and the experiences of the women around me, the people that want to ban abortion also want to ban birth control. They don't understand or care that it is used for reasons other than preventing pregnancy. They see it as a way for women to sleep around, be loose, and basically disobey god. That's what most of it boils down to, bible says it's bad so there for it must be. It's the same reason they want to refuse rights to the LGBTQ+, and some even want them to be killed. It's this backwards kind of thinking that refuses progress and puts people in danger, and worst of all the people with this kind of mindset are the ones in power. As much as you might not like it, Abortion is something that must be accessible in order to provide the best care for women. Making it harder to get only puts those women at risk. It might seem evil to you but it is a necessary evil. The life of the already established mother takes higher priority than a 6-8 week clump of cells that have just as much a chance of ending up non-viable as they do ending up as a living baby. A heart beat alone does not equal life.

    I don't mean there AREN'T people opposed to both. just one doesn't automatically mean the other.


    AFTER ALL... extramarital sex aside. BC can be a useful thing for MARRIED women as well. So...


    As for me personally, while I don't believe in having extramarital sex ( And therefor don't have it myself) I understand that not everyone believes as I do and... anyway, sometimes people make regrettable choices. I would much RATHER they used birth control and DIDN'T need to have an abortion than otherwise. Again. I realize that not everyone thinks as I do, as you pointed out... just clarifying my views on it.


    I also agree that IF the law isn't flexible enough to allow for something to be done in at least certain cases, then yes , that is absolutely a problem. (The example of the eleven year old that was raped and ended up pregnant comes to mind. An extreme example, BUT it makes the point well enough)

  15. 8 minutes ago, spatio said:

     It has already happened. My doctor wrote my insurance two letters of medical necessity and they still refused to cover it.  I ended up having to get a new insurance.


    I apologize if you feel I lumped you or others in unfairly with the extreme anti-BC crowd. It has simply been my experience with my health (and living in the conservative-leaning US South) that there is a slippery slope that can quickly lead to fewer and fewer protections for women simply seeking reasonable healthcare (not even related to availability of abortion).  When legislators and their personal beliefs instead of doctors and their patients are more and more in control of what a woman can and cannot decide about her body, there can be consequences beyond reasonable abortion restrictions.

    And I will be fair, too and state that it is possible that is more of a problem in some parts of the country than others ( The law being referenced, I believe , was in Georgia...) 


    If I may... I am a bit surprised at the insurance company, however. Seems like THEY are part of the issue as well IF you ask me. At is a bit off topic , however.


    I WILL simply say too, that I THINK maybe conservative in the South is a somewhat... different animal... than is a conservative in Yankee land. Something to keep in mind.

    I have run into that with issues as regards race, as well.

  16. 8 hours ago, Fuzzbucket said:

    Men will be forcing women to get pregnant just so they can claim tax breaks.

    But I mean... can't that sort of pressure happen anyway?


    Like... COULDN'T a man push his wife to have kids purely for the tax breaks? 


    At said, my thoughts on what @spatio said are this. FIRST... Questioning exactly when life starts is a FAR cry from taking away any and all birth control. So please, please PLEASE do NOT lump everyone that so much as dares to think that abortion is NOT an unmitigated blessing or even * gasp* questions the ethics of the thing, somehow wants to go full scale take all birth control away. Admittedly there MIGHT be those that do, but that is the extreme, I would think and not that common. Many are much more reasonable than that. Saying this as someone who also sort of depends on BC hormone pills for other reasons than BC. Furthermore... I don't see how they CAN refuse to pay ( at least in part) BC in cases like yours where that isn't even the primary reason for taking it. Especially if there were definite statements by your doctor stating it was necessary to your health/life and such.


    For myself  don't like the idea of abortions and would rather see fewer of them needed. Just saying.


    AND i cases like yours, spatio, hysterectomy should totally be an option.


    Sorry... getting off my soap box but I LOATHE being lumped with the hardcore anti-BCers

  17. 12 minutes ago, Shirubia said:

    Thinking about what people said in later posts... It could be done with something like this (just imo, TJ is the one with the last word after all), compromising with what we already have:  


    - Eggs/treats have a respawn timer of 5-10 minutes, down from 5-15 minutes. If we average at 53 eggs/treats per year, you would be needing 4.4-8.8 hours in total for all the eggs/treats of a given year. 5 minutes per egg/treat would be the best, but it would get rid of the “hunting factor” and we would just be logging every 5 mins like a machine.

    - Easter its extended two extra days for a total of five days to help with the previous years. Halloween unchanged. 

    - Once you have collected all the eggs/treats for the current year, you obtain eggs/treats from previous years in order (2019, 2018, etc). If you have all the eggs/treats of X year you skip to the next possible year you are missing from.



    Im missing something?

    Actually.... This sounds like a rather nice way of handling it. Of course, as you say, TJ gets the last word on it, BUT.... I like it.

  18. 1 hour ago, GhostMouse said:

    I'm definitely in favor of shorter time between drops (5 minutes sounds perfect) and extending the length of the event. If it has to be one or the other (why?) I'm fine with either. But I think Easter Sunday through the following Saturday or Sunday seems reasonable, and the same length of time for the Halloween drop. We get a week for holiday breeding and most of the other holiday events, so why not a week for egg/treat collecting?

    Yes. I support this suggestion ( I beleive I have missed a few eggs and treats over the years.


    AT said, I DO think IF an opportunity to collect the extra eggs/treats were implemented SOMETHIGN would need to be changed to allow people enough time to collect both the NEW eggs and any that were missed from previous years ( WHICH might be full sets as some have pointed out). I liek GhostMouse's idea of decreasing the time between drops ( Which was an annoyance for me, collecting, anyway)... AND extending the time allotted for the hunt THOUGH as Ghost Mouse also said... either ONE by itself would be beneficial IF we can ONLY have one or the other.