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  1. Can someone tabulate all the active votes sometime soon? We should resolve the ones that have been running for a while and get votes on the newest couple of releases. We should also set up a vote on possibly changing category definitions. The latest releases haven't seemed too elemental to me. Siyat: No, the bio-luminescence is cool but I don't see anything else to support fire? Or if anyone has a good argument for life due to the time-based hierarchy, I'd like to see it. Mimic: No, unless we substantially change the definition for life. Boreal: No. Ash: No. Pipio: No. Aether: YES, in Wind.
  2. @Fiona Siyats look glowy, but there is nothing I see in the description about their glowiness? No on Truffles, yes to Pyrovars if we're doing Lastalda's addition to the fire category definition (which I'm guessing will be a yes). I looked at the encyclopedia entries for every current Life breed, and NONE of them even have an elemental affinity to Death (or Water or Air, all others are represented). The ones I thought would likely have Death affinity (Desipis, Witchlight) actually had Dark affinity. And the Dark element is listed as the inverse of the Light element (in the spiritual sense). Maybe we shouldn't count Death mana? Maybe we should count Dark mana? There are currently also not very many breeds which have an affinity for Death mana (complete list: Black Marrow, Brute, Caligene, Fell, Fever, Seragamma, Vampire) so there are not very many data points. I'm very much still pondering. [Yes I know that DC elemental affinity is not what we are considering as counting toward Elementality, but I figured (a) no breed is going to have a very strong tie to a mana type without being listed as having an affinity to that element and (b) I'm still trying to suss out exactly what the DC element categories mean, so info from non-Elemental breeds is still useful there.]
  3. Whew, nearly 4 rounds in one go! Please let me know ASAP if I missed anything. I guess I'm passing now, all the rest look pretty familiar. 😉 Cathie and Fiona, whaddaya want?
  4. @Natayah, did you want to get some of the shinies too, or just donate? I'd love to claim either 1 or 2 on my turn - female if possible please?
  5. Looks like it'll be just us, at least for now, so let's start! If anyone else wants to join, you still can - we'll fit you into the picking order! 😊 Ooh, Lastalda, just in time! Your post came in just as I was getting ready to post this, let me rerun the list randomizer with you included. Picking Order: 1. Cathie 2. Lavi 3. Lastalda 4. Nat 5. Fiona METALS 1. CB Silver donated by Fiona Lavi 2. CB Silver donated by Fiona Lastalda 3. 2g Gold from Solstice donated by Lavinia [lineage] Fiona 4. 2g PB Silver donated by Lastalda [lineage] Fiona 5. 2g PB Silver donated by Cathie [lineage] Fiona 6. 2g Silver from female White Zyumorph donated by Lavinia [lineage] 7. 2g Silver from male Chrono Xenowyrm donated by Lavinia [lineage] 8. 2g Silver from male Witchlight donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 9. 2g Silver from Mistletoe donated by Lavinia* [lineage] Cathie 10. 2g Silver from male Shadow Walker donated by Lavinia* [lineage] Fiona SHIMMERS 11. 2g Bronze Shimmer Copper Noodle x Silver Tinsel donated by Fiona [lineage] Lastalda 12. 3g Silver Shimmer Luckiest Catch x Royal Blue donated by Lastalda [lineage] Lavi 13. 3g Silver Shimmer (7ClA2) x Celestial donated by Fiona [lineage] Lavi 14. 3g Silver Shimmer Lady Raphy x Summer donated by Lavinia [lineage] Lastalda 15. 3g Bronze Shimmer Caveborn Holiday Prize x Red Nebula donated by Lastalda[lineage] Cathie 16. 4g Gold Shimmer Angelight Goldenpearl x Tsunami donated by Fiona [lineage] Lavi 17. 4g Bronze Shimmer Schimmernder Drache x Winter donated by Lavinia[lineage] TINSELS 18. 2g Gold Tinsel from Garland donated by natayah Cathie 19. 3g Silver Tinsel x Rainbow Copper checker donated by Fiona [lineage] Nat 20. 3g Silver Tinsel Glyphe x Celestial donated by Fiona [lineage] Lastalda COPPERS AND MORE 21. 2g Rainbow Copper from alt Shadow Walker donated by Fiona [lineage] Nat 22. 2g Liver of Sulfur Copper from male Mageia Xenowyrm donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 23. 2g Liver of Sulfur Copper from male Mageia Xenowyrm donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 24. 2g Verdigris Copper from female Balloon donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 25. 3g PB Rainbow Copper donated by Lavinia* [lineage] *Given to me to donate by DC friends of mine and natayah's.
  6. Anyone other than me and @Fiona participating in the shiny drawing??? @Lastalda @silver_tiger @Grandmother_cathie @Natayah???
  7. Donations are in! I'll keep this post updated. Those who want to participate in the shiny drawing (again, you can participate without donating!) should declare their intentions. I'd like to draw names by the end of tomorrow (DC time). Donations for the Shiny Drawing: METALS CB Silver donated by Fiona CB Silver donated by Fiona 2g Gold from Solstice donated by Lavinia (fogged ER egg, will be sent as a hatchling) 2g PB Silver donated by Lastalda [lineage] 2g PB Silver donated by Cathie [lineage] 2g Silver from female White Zyumorph donated by Lavinia [lineage] 2g Silver from male Chrono Xenowyrm donated by Lavinia (fogged ER egg, will be sent as a hatchling) 2g Silver from male Witchlight donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 2g Silver from Mistletoe donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 2g Silver from male Shadow Walker donated by Lavinia* [lineage] SHIMMERS 2g Bronze Shimmer Copper Noodle x Silver Tinsel donated by Fiona [lineage] 3g Silver Shimmer Luckiest Catch x Royal Blue donated by Lastalda [lineage] 3g Silver Shimmer (7ClA2) x Celestial donated by Fiona [lineage] 3g Silver Shimmer Lady Raphy x Summer donated by Lavinia [lineage] 3g Bronze Shimmer Caveborn Holiday Prize x Red Nebula donated by Lastalda[lineage] 4g Gold Shimmer Angelight Goldenpearl x Tsunami donated by Fiona [lineage] 4g Bronze Shimmer Schimmernder Drache x Winter donated by Lavinia[lineage] TINSELS 2g Gold Tinsel (unknown mate) donated by natayah 3g Silver Tinsel x Rainbow Copper checker donated by Fiona [lineage] 3g Silver Tinsel Glyphe x Celestial donated by Fiona [lineage] COPPERS AND MORE 2g Rainbow Copper from alt Shadow Walker donated by Fiona [lineage] 2g Liver of Sulfur Copper from male Mageia Xenowyrm donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 2g Liver of Sulfur Copper from male Mageia Xenowyrm donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 2g Verdigris Copper from female Balloon donated by Lavinia* [lineage] 3g PB Rainbow Copper donated by Lavinia* [lineage] *Given to me to donate by DC friends of mine and natayah's.
  8. This list seems good. Floral-Crowned Dragons: Yes, in Life Floret Wyverns: Yes, in Life Freckled Dragons: No Tatterdrakes: No Red-Tailed Wyrms: No Leodon: Yes, in Fire Lacula: No Melismor: No Razorcrest Wyverns: No Cathie, I think my votes are already in your list except for Florets and Melismors. As for the July releases, Black Truffle Dragons don't seem elemental. I could go either way on the Pyrovars; I'd love more information if it is available. Is there interest in having Florets in the shiny drawing? I missed that release, but I don't know if you all are still looking for them.
  9. Reminder: shiny drawing donations are needed! I'm aiming for most donations to come in between 24 hours from now and noon on Monday. Usually a few donations accidentally grow up before the end of the drawing on donors' scrolls, hopefully we can be timely and coordinated enough to avoid that. If you need help holding donated eggs, PM me. That said, I'm opening up the floor to donations or requests to participate in the drawing now! You can donate or declare yourself in either here in the thread or by PM to me. In case anyone is new to our shiny drawings or just wants a refresher, check out the information in the hidden contents below! (I didn't want to clog up the thread since most of us won't need reminders.) We're always looking for Elemental shinies for our drawings - CB or bred golds, silvers, coppers, tinsels, and shimmers which qualify for our lineage (low gens are loved by not required). Occasionally, we have accepted other rares into our drawings, so if there are any requests for donations of things like CB Zyumorphs or alt Vines/Undines, please let the thread know! And don't forget your votes on all these new breeds!
  10. Sinomorphs weren't posted in the release thread for the zyumorphs either, even though they weren't new eggs they were new dragons.
  11. A shiny drawing is coming up soon, in just over a week! I'd like for donations to be submitted between midnight DC time on July 8th and noon DC time on July 9. Plan your breeding schedule accordingly if you intend to donate so your shinies aren't all on cooldown. Donations are not required to participate in the drawing. Thanks @Fiona for the reminder about DC Light Mana, I edited my post. I recently bred my first 5th gen for my 7th gen all-inclusive Leeloo! I am still stuck on a couple of 3rd gens, but hey, progress! Look!
  12. Woot! My vote is definitely a YES (in Fire) then. --- As for element definition changes... Our elemental definitions are definitely different from DC's, and also DC has thirteen elements. In translating between the two systems, I would suggest each of our elements count the following types of mana: EARTH - Earth WATER - Water, Ice WIND - Air, Lightning FIRE - Fire, Light * LIFE - none * I didn't think of the fact that DC's light element is both illumination and goodness, thanks for catching that, @Fiona! [edit] This leaves out Life, Dark, Death, Magi, Time, and Balance/Neutral. Note that our definition of the LIFE element is very, very different than DC's. Our Life category is fundamentally eclectic, all over the place because of our emphasis on a unique interaction with the world. DC's Life category is for breeds that have something to do with plants or other animals. Also, I would suggest that the "Elemental Affinity" from the Encyclopedia not count toward elemental qualifications for us. Strong use of that type of mana, sure, but our definitions of elements are different enough that I think we shouldn't rely on a breed's DC element(s). While some breeds obviously do have the same DC elemental affinity and 5E Element type (Hellfires in Fire, Stones in Earth, Waters in Water, Whites in Life, and Grays in Wind/Air are some examples), plenty of others don't.
  13. Thanks cathie! If we have voting July 1st - July 7th, I could run a shiny drawing the following week. Is there interest in that? Along similar lines, while I don't think I have the time, energy, and consistency of checking here to be a thread mod, I would be willing to being in charge of our gifting events and keeping those going. I've run most of the recent ones anyway, and it would make there be a little less work for overall mods. If you all want me to, that is, if not that's fine too! Floral-Crowned Dragons: Yes, in Life Floret Wyverns: Undecided (if yes, in Life) Freckled Dragons: No Tatterdrakes: No Red-Tailed Wyrms: No. I think they fit the concept of an air element but not our official definition of the Wind element. * Leodon: Depends on the answer to the "is the tail on fire" question. I think it isn't a strong enough case without it. With it, I think it's a slam dunk for Fire. Lacula: No Melismor: Undecided (if yes, in Earth) Razorcrest Wyverns: No. Manipulating gusts of air (which do qualify as weather) in combat situations is really not enough for me. Maybe if they did most things in their life by manipulating gusts of air and had a second qualification (such as connection to the cosmos or spending the vast majority of their lives in the air). The description says it even, the fundamental thing about Razorcrest Wyverns that influences everything about them on a fundamental level is not the wind, but rather "their wit pervades every aspect of their personalities." * *My personal policy is always to vote based on our official definition. We might want to consider updating the definition if we want to include manipulating air mana and such as elemental qualifications. Here is our official definition, for reference: For me, Undecided means "no for now and without further evidence of elementality, but could easily become yes from further discussion." @Grandmother_cathie, your post has Floret Wyverns hidden inside the list for Floral-Crowned Dragons.
  14. Interesting, and definitely a fundamental interaction with nature that we haven't seen before, though not a super significant one globally. However, influencing plant tastiness in their burrow's vicinity would point towards Life, not Earth. Earth is dirt and rocks, not plant life; I would count it toward Earth if it had been that they influenced the soil (to have more plant nutrients or something) rather than the plants themselves. Looking at the Leodons initially, I was thinking "these are going to be Fire element!" before opening up the description. They look like they should be... Close examination of the sprite shows what looks like fire breath and a tail that may or may not be on fire at the end ( @Fiona do you know if that is fluff or fire at the tip of the tail?) even though these aren't in the description. This was exactly what I was thinking when I wrote my prior post. We've always looked for breeds so tightly connected to their element that they have at least three different supporting arguments. All four of these breeds have descriptions that place their adjective (courageous/cunning/loyal/clever) at the forefront and tie the rest of the description back to these concepts, not back to their elemental affinities.
  15. TJ's dragons from the birthday release have grown up! Leodon Dragon: My instinct said Fire when I first read the description, but there isn't actually anything Fire-related other than mastery of fire magic. A fiery temper doesn't actually have anything to do with Fire, at least not as we have it defined. A tenuous case could be made for inclusion in Life, citing the focus on bravery as well as the magic ability, but I think that bravery/courage/defending kith and kin are sufficiently nebulous that we can't really compare to the majority of other dragons -- of course most breeds try to protect their family, friends, and territory. Lacula Dragon: The only thing potentially elemental to me is the paralyzing venom, but I really don't want to reiterate the debate we had over the Fevers (which were not accepted into the lineage) over a dragon with not much else elemental going for it. Melismor Dragon: Basically rabbits, in dragon form. Residing underground is not sufficient to qualify for Earth category, so probably a no. Razorcrest Wyvern: They manipulate the wind/weather to win fights and subdue or trap prey, but that seems more like a strategic choice they make rather than a fundamental connection to the weather. That would still count towards Wind if there were anything else Wind-like about them, but I don't see any. I don't think cleverness would count as a very specific part of nature, different from other breeds, that they rely upon or are affected by. (I mean, let's be honest here, these are the Harry Potter houses dragons. That starting place doesn't incline them towards being Elemental.)
  16. Thanks for the help! The link to our cards seems to be totally broken now, though. I thought we were going to keep the sent/received cards? Presumably an error that will get fixed soon?
  17. I'm still looking for these flowers: enamel orchid, fuscia, gale blossom, princess flower, abyssal starlight, daphne lucae, jade peony, poppi, dragoneyes, glowbells, lotus, deathstalk, strange seedpods, almond bloom, gummet bloom, plumeria. Any help would be appreciated! I'll start sending flowers to the recent posters
  18. Huh, I thought I already had a sibling of #10, but it appears not... me please!
  19. Four rounds done! The only shinies left are 10 and 18 - post to claim one of them. Wonderful shiny drawing, everyone; thanks donors for lots of exciting prizes.
  20. Round 3 is done! @rrattts, do you have any more picks, or do you pass?
  21. It has been 24 hours, so I'm going to skip @silver_tiger for now. I'm also skipping @Grandmother_cathie for now, as it wasn't clear if she was in or not and she said she wouldn't be around on Sunday. Both will get picks if and when they post! I finished round 1 and went all the way through round 2! We're on round 3! @Mak0 you're up! Female for #2, please, rrattts?
  22. If I missed a donation or a participant, let me know ASAP! Selection Order: 1) @Lastalda pass 2) @silver_tiger 3) @Mak0 4) @Lavinia 5) @Fiona 6) @rrattts pass 7) @Grandmother_cathie (not sure if she's actually in or not, but just in case!) METALS 1) CB Gold male hatchling donated by Fiona Lastalda 2) CB Gold donated by rrattts Lavi 3) CB Silver donated by Lastalda Mak0 4) CB Silver donated by rrattts Lastalda 5) 2g Gold from Garland donated by Lastalda [lineage] Fiona 6) 2g Gold from alt SW donated by Fiona [lineage] rrattts 7) 2g Silver from alt SW donated by Fiona [lineage] Lastalda 21) 2g Silver from alt Omen donated by rrattts [lineage] Lavi SHIMMERS 8) 3rd gen Gold Shimmer from She Who Will Be Named x Almandine Pyralspite donated by rrattts [lineage] Lastalda 9) 3rd gen Gold Shimmer from Gilded Ninja x Silver Lunar Herald donated by rrattts [lineage] Lavi 10) 3rd gen Silver Shimmer from Luckiest Catch x Rainbow Copper donated by Fiona [lineage] 11) 3rd gen Bronze Shimmer from (Bubba) x Autumn donated by Lastalda [lineage] rrattts 12) 3rd gen Bronze Shimmer from Ardyn Lucius Caelum of Ashke'hai x Striped River donated by rrattts [lineage] Lavi TINSELS 13) 2nd gen Bronze Tinsel from Soulstone donated by rrattts [lineage] Mak0 14) 3rd gen Silver Tinsel checker x Rainbow Copper donated by Fiona [lineage] Mak0 COPPERS AND MORE 15) CB Rainbow Copper donated by Lastalda Fiona 16) CB Liver of Sulfur Copper donated by Lastalda Fiona 17) CB Liver of Sulfur Copper male hatchling donated by Mak0 Fiona 18) CB Verdigris Copper donated by rrattts 19) 2g pretty from alt Garland after V-Day donated by Fiona Mak0 20) 2g pretty from alt Garland after V-Day donated by Fiona rrattts I tried to get something to donate but my dragons gave me nothing... so, uh, I guess I'm volunteering my time and organization skills? Post your lists!
  23. I have an idea. For CBs, donors can influence opposite the precog gender while the egg is still influenceable. Giftees list their preferred gender. Donors then hatch to the influenced gender or teleport as an egg for the precog gender. We can have both options, even for low-time eggs!
  24. @Mak0 yay I'm glad you can participate! Participants: Fiona, rrattts, Lastalda, Silver, Mak0, me Preliminary list of donations (I'll be updating this over the next two days): METALS (CB I think?) Gold donated by rrattts CB Silver donated by Lastalda CB Silver donated by rrattts 2g Gold from Garland donated by Lastalda [lineage] SHIMMERS 3rd gen Bronze Shimmer from (Bubba) x Autumn donated by Lastalda [lineage] TINSELS 2g Bronze Tinsel from Soulstone donated by rrattts (lineage) COPPERS AND MORE CB Rainbow Copper donated by Lastalda CB Liver of Sulfur Copper donated by Lastalda CB Liver of Sulfur Copper donated by Mak0