Posted July 4, 2015 Ylvanne thank you so much for all your work collecting this data . Thank you all for joining and helping with this ^w^ Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 My 6 attempts got 1 refuse, 1 no interest, 1 no egg, and 3 eggs that match the Xeno. Two of the ones that matched the Xeno were both with a magma. http://dragcave.net/lineage/ZfC7p http://dragcave.net/lineage/8mJ6E http://dragcave.net/lineage/GGwqF Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Thank you Ylvanne for adding me I will do my best to add pairs to the document! Added: Astrapis Females x Thunder x Sunsong Males x Thalassa x Electric x Pyro Thalassas Females x Chronos Males none Mageia Females none Males x Red Chronos Females none Males x Magma (purebred 2G) Gaia Females x Pyro Males none Pyros Females x Astrapi Males x Gaia Edited July 4, 2015 by Stellaluna22 Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Just bred my set of six. The four that produced eggs all bred true. Xenowyrm type: Astrapi Gender: Male - Mate: Thunder Dragon Biome: Desert Elemental Affinity: Lightning Mana: Destruction - Result: Astrapi Xenowyrm type: Thalassa Gender: Female - Mate: Blusang Lindwurm Biome: Coast Elemental Affinity: Water Mana: Creation - Result: Thalassa ( No egg from Mageia x Cassare ) (Refusal from Chrono x Nocturne ) Xenowyrm type: Gaia Gender: Male - Mate: Fever Wyvern Biome: Jungle Elemental Affinity: Death Mana: Destruction - Result: Gaia Xenowyrm type: Pyro Gender: Male - Mate: Desipis Biome: Desert Elemental affinity: Dark/Magi Mana: Destruction/Change - Result: Pyro Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) My Xeno x Xeno theory, sorry if it's already been posted, is that the offspring will either follow the parents OR their 'avatar' alignment. Creation: Jungle (Life) + Coast (Water) Change: Desert (Magi) + Forest (Time) Destruction: Volcano (Fire) + Alpine (Lightning) So if you bred, say, Volcano x Coast you could get either those or Jungle / Alpine, but you'd never get Forest / Desert. Can anyone disprove this? Edited July 4, 2015 by angelicdragonpuppy Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 @angelicdragonpuppy - That was just the thing I was about to post! So far everything I've seen matches that. Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Xenowyrm type: Thalasa Gender: Female - Mate: Radiant Angel Biome: Volcano Elemental affinity: Magi Mana: Change - Result: Thalassa lineage; born 11:14PM (if that's anything) Xenowyrm type: Pyro Gender: Male - Mate: Xenowyrm Biome: Jungle Elemental affinity: N/A (Most likely - Earth?) Mana: N/A (Most likely - Creation?) - Result: Pyro lineage; born 11:16PM (if that's anything) Xenowyrm type: Chrono Gender: Male - Mate: Xenowyrm Biome: Desert Elemental affinity: N/A (Most likely - Time?) Mana: N/A (Most likely - Change?) - Result: Mageia lineage; born 11:17PM (if that's anything) Xenowyrm type: Astrapi Gender: Female - Mate: Blusang Biome: Coast Elemental affinity: Water Mana: Creation - Result: Astrapi lineage; born 11:29PM (if that's anything) /runs away Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) My PM conversation with birdz: About the breeding of xenowyrms, are you planning to keep completely silent, or could you possibly at least hint as to the closeness of the theory I expressed here? By the way, thanks enormously for the wonderful wyrms! I was planning on commenting on it as soon as I saw one that was crazy close (which there just was one, so I commented). I don't want you guys to be in the dark forever. c; And no, thank youu!! I'm glad you like them!! Yep, I saw! Now to work out how the Xeno x Xeno works. It probably has something to do with creation, destruction and change... wait, I think I have a theory again: Considering the spread of xenowyrms across the affinities: Creation: • Life—Gaia • Water—Thalassa Destruction: • Lightning—Astrapi • Fire—Pyro Change: • Magi—Mageia • Time—Chrono Would that mean that the pair Pyro x Gaia can give Pyro, Gaia, Thalassa or Astrapi, but not Mageia or Chrono because neither are in change? Nope! Though that is an interesting theory. I think you guys are overthinking things a little bit. Remember, all Xenowyrm subspecies are part of Xenowyrm species, therefore they're all breedable from each other. Edited July 4, 2015 by MessengerDragon Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 My Xeno x Xeno theory, sorry if it's already been posted, is that the offspring will either follow the parents OR their 'avatar' alignment. Creation: Jungle (Life) + Coast (Water) Change: Desert (Magi) + Forest (Time) Destruction: Volcano (Fire) + Alpine (Lightning) So if you bred, say, Volcano x Coast you could get either those or Jungle / Alpine, but you'd never get Forest / Desert. Can anyone disprove this? http://dragcave.net/lineage/r93sY time + magi somehow = life Not exactly a Volcano x Coast type of pairing, but still a different alignment than the parents. I think it's just a large chance to be the same as the parents (or their alignment?) with a small chance to be one of the others. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Xenowyrm type: Mageia Gender: Female - Mate: Magi Biome: Coast Elemental affinity: Magi Mana: ?? - Result: Thalassas (Why this happen!? ..Got mad an AP'd it) Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Aw. Maybe just a much higher chance of getting one of the parent types with a smaller chance of any of the other four? So not quite as random as, well, random, but still fairly random? Also guys, Xeno x Xeno is the only breeding pattern that hasn't been figured out yet--the other two types are listed in the first post--so posting other results probably isn't needed any more. Unless you just want to see what the odds of breeding things are. Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Aw. Maybe just a much higher chance of getting one of the parent types with a smaller chance of any of the other four? So not quite as random as, well, random, but still fairly random? Also guys, Xeno x Xeno is the only breeding pattern that hasn't been figured out yet--the other two types are listed in the first post--so posting other results probably isn't needed any more. Unless you just want to see what the odds of breeding things are. Yayyy, ding-ding. This is pretty much correct. It works like Xeno x 'Cave' dragon breeding does. That's literally all that was missing. |D I told you guys it was simple... I'm no liar! Making things overly complicated for a dragon with six different subspecies would just be mean. eta: I went with biomes rather than elements because if I just went with elements, 7/13 DC elements would've been left out of the breeding process, and it would've really restricted lineage possibilities. I wanted to make sure that lineages could be as diverse as possible, so, even if going by the element type of the other parent dragon might've fit their theme a little better than biomes, it would've made breeding way less interesting because over half of the dragons in-cave would be left out of the process (or be randomized, but that would've made no sense imo). Edited July 4, 2015 by birdzgoboom Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Xenowyrm type: Mageia Gender: Male - Mate: Mageia Biome: Desert Elemental affinity: Change Mana: Magi - Result: Mageia Xenowyrm type: Gaia Gender: Male Mate: Gaia Biome: Jungle Elemental affinity: Creation Mana: Life - Result: Refused Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) So, yes... The spreadsheet was messed up again... But I gave permission to edit only to 2 people and it says who edited and when. -removed, please don't call others out publically on the forum- *Apologize, I was really mad about it* Anyway, since we already have al the theory correct, I guess everything's done! Thank you SO MUCH to everyone who participated fairly and with good will ^w^ Edit: Birdz, thank you VERY MUCH for these amazing dragons! Breeding process is still complex, but I'm glad it's not completely random I'll update the theory when I get home and leave to comment for tonight, I guess. Then, I'll PM a mod and ask to close the thread Edited July 4, 2015 by Ylvanne Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Yayyy, ding-ding. This is pretty much correct. It works like Xeno x 'Cave' dragon breeding does. That's literally all that was missing. |D I told you guys it was simple... I'm no liar! Making things overly complicated for a dragon with six different subspecies would just be mean. eta: I went with biomes rather than elements because if I just went with elements, 7/13 DC elements would've been left out of the breeding process, and it would've really restricted lineage possibilities. I wanted to make sure that lineages could be as diverse as possible, so, even if going by the element type of the other parent dragon might've fit their theme a little better than biomes, it would've made breeding way less interesting because over half of the dragons in-cave would be left out of the process (or be randomized, but that would've made no sense imo). Lol, I must admit I'm a little bit sad you didn't end up going with the theory that looked good for a little while, the three Avatar category things for elemental matches... but this is good too! Obviously And yay everyone who helped figure it out! You guys did it before my next three Xenos grew, I didn't have a chance to really help at all Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Yay us! And many many thanks to Ylvanne for all her work (and putting up with all the trouble) with the spreadsheet! Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Thank you Birdz for the amazing new dragons, thank you Ylvanne and the team for helping us all get to the bottom of this, I'm so happy. Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 In short, I bred 4 same type Xenowyrm couples, 3 pairs gave their own breed, 1 gave another breed. All were bred one right after another, so there is no way the time of the day mattered. I'll shorten the form, since there are no other options because all are bred within type. Xenowyrm type: Mageia Mate: Mageia - Result: Mageia Xenowyrm type: Gaia Mate: Gaia - Result: Gaia Xenowyrm type: Pyro Mate: Pyro - Result: Pyro Xenowyrm type: Chrono Mate: Chrono - Result: Pyro :/ When my 2 other couples grow up, I might update. But atm it looks like there is some chance for biome/elemental affinity but there is also a, maybe smaller, chance for a random. Update: I bred 2 other same-breed couples, both gave the egg of their own type: Xenowyrm type: Astrapi Mate: Astrapi - Result: Astrapi Xenowyrm type: Thalass Mate: Thalass Result: Thalass 5/6 bred true, 1/6 gave offspring of another type(Chronos->Pyro) Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 I was telling a friend about these findings and a question came up I couldn't answer - which dragons exactly count as "Cave" (Situation 2)? Only GoN and old dragons that have "Location: Cave" on their page, or bred dragons as well? Does anyone know? Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 I was telling a friend about these findings and a question came up I couldn't answer - which dragons exactly count as "Cave" (Situation 2)? Only GoN and old dragons that have "Location: Cave" on their page, or bred dragons as well? Does anyone know? Dragons labeled "Cave" are Guardians of Nature, caveborn prizes obtained in the raffle, and caveborn dragons from the time when the cave wasn't divided into biomes. Bred dragons don't even have the Cave label. Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Dragons labeled "Cave" are Guardians of Nature, caveborn prizes obtained in the raffle, and caveborn dragons from the time when the cave wasn't divided into biomes. Bred dragons don't even have the Cave label. Though I think they would work the same way as 'Cave' dragons as they have no specific biome for the mechanic to reference. Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Female Cassare from Volcano x male Astrapi = Astrapi egg Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 First attempt: Xenowyrm type: Astrapi Gender: Female - Mate: Pyros Biome: Volcano Elemental affinity: Fire Mana: Fire - Result: Doesn't show much interest in each other. (Aw poo and this is the one I was looking forward to. ) Second Attempt: Xenowyrm type:Chrono Gender: Female - Mate: Mageia Biome: Desert Elemental affinity: Magi Mana: Magi - Result: Mageia egg Not the one I really wanted but oh well at least the lineage looks nice. Share this post Link to post
Posted July 4, 2015 Xenowyrm type: Thalasa Gender: Male - Mate: Mistletoe Biome: Alpine Elemental affinity: Life - Result: Astrapi. Proof Share this post Link to post
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