ANSWERED:More "Raffle" Times

[Naruhina_94]

I know that there is an huge work behind an Holidobay event like Christmas, but I also think that it's really satisfactory to see so many people during these periods playing mini games and be so active in the game! I always think that DC could improve even better than now (and anyway I like how is currently working) if more people know about it.

TJ added an official FaceBook page, and this is great to publicize the game

 

These are the most important events:

 

S. Valentine (14th February)

DC's Birthday (22th May)

Halloween (31th October)

Christmas (25th December)

 

 

Raffles:

I thought about this suggestion because here seems that many people would approve more Raffles during the year and not just for Christmas.

(I would prefer this other option from Sheriziya so much, it's even better than more raffles during the year but I don't want to be OT).

This because there are too few CB Prizes in the cave, and they breed very few eggs, holding high their prize. If we could have 4-5 small Raffles during the year people could have an higher chance to win something, and there would be more CB Prize Dragon in any case

I think that create more raffle could improve your chance to win since the presence of other players may be more or less elevated and you could enter in a Raffle with less players than another one (and have better chances to win of course!)

 

So, to not make this proposal too heavy for the game maybe we could do 3 things-->

 

1)

Many small Raffles and one big Raffle:

 

S. Valentine (14th February)

10 Eastern CB Gold Dragon - 20 Eastern CB Silver Dragon - 30 Eastern Cb Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention.

 

DC's Birthday (22th May)

10 Western CB Gold Dragon - 20 Western CB Silver Dragon - 30 Western CB Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention.

 

Middle year (1st July)

10 Eastern CB Gold Dragon - 20 Eastern CB Silver Dragon - 30 Eastern Cb Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention.

Halloween (31th October)

10 Western CB Gold Dragon - 20 Western CB Silver Dragon - 30 Western CB Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention.

 

Christmas (25th December)

10 Eastern CB Gold Dragon - 20 Eastern CB Silver Dragon - 30 Eastern Cb Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention + 10 Western CB Gold Dragon - 20 Western CB Silver Dragon - 30 Western CB Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention.

 

2) Two big Raffles, distant each other (one during the Christmas Period and another during DC Birhtday OR the Summer Relase, we should choose among these two):

 

S. Valentine (14th February)

Relased a new CB Holiday Breed

 

DC's Birthday (22th May)

a BIG Raffle ( 10 Eastern CB Gold Dragon - 20 Eastern CB Silver Dragon - 30 Eastern Cb Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention + 10 Western CB Gold Dragon - 20 Western CB Silver Dragon - 30 Western CB Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention. ) [Only if there isn't a Raffle during the Middle Year Relase]*

 

Middle year (1st July)

a BIG Raffle ( 10 Eastern CB Gold Dragon - 20 Eastern CB Silver Dragon - 30 Eastern Cb Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention + 10 Western CB Gold Dragon - 20 Western CB Silver Dragon - 30 Western CB Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention. ) [Only if there isn't a Raffle during the DC's Birthday Relase]*

 

Halloween (31th October)

Relased a new CB Holiday Breed

 

Christmas (25th December)

Relased a new CB Holiday Breed + a BIG Raffle (10 Eastern CB Gold Dragon - 20 Eastern CB Silver Dragon - 30 Eastern Cb Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention + 10 Western CB Gold Dragon - 20 Western CB Silver Dragon - 30 Western CB Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention.)

 

3) Two big Raffles, distant each other (one during the Christmas Period and another during DC Birhtday OR the Summer Relase, we should choose among these two):

 

S. Valentine (14th February)

(there is a Minigame) Relased a new CB Holiday Breed

 

DC's Birthday (22th May)

(there is a Minigame) + a Raffle ( 10 Eastern CB Gold Dragon - 20 Eastern CB Silver Dragon - 30 Eastern Cb Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention + 10 Western CB Gold Dragon - 20 Western CB Silver Dragon - 30 Western CB Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention. )

 

Halloween (31th October)

(there is a Minigame) + Relased a new CB Holiday Breed

 

Christmas (25th December)

(there is a Minigame) + Relased a new CB Holiday Breed + a BIG Raffle (10 Eastern CB Gold Dragon - 20 Eastern CB Silver Dragon - 30 Eastern Cb Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention + 10 Western CB Gold Dragon - 20 Western CB Silver Dragon - 30 Western CB Bronze Dragon - 15 Honorable Mention.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Possible Problems and Solutions:

 

Q: There would be too few normal relases, we don't want to lose more regular releases to have more holidays.

A: We already have 3 Holiday relase plus one month whitout relased dragon. 4 monthes of "Special" relase and 6 monthes of "normal" relases. I don't think that adding one more Event would be so devastating, especially if there was a possibility for users to suggest ideas for the various mini-games in order to help those who are kindly already doing this for free.

What about relase more dragons per month? 2 New breed instead of 1. Obviously Normal Relases should last for almost 2-3 days instead of 1.

In this way there could coexist Normal and Special Relases in greater quantity.

 

Q: So Prize Dragons would become commons.

A: Err... nope. Here it's not suggesting a drastic increase in the amount of prizes given out, but just that they be distributed more widely throughout the year and with a little increase. Remember that there many new users will enjoi, too.

 

Q: Too many Raffles! Too drama!

A: First of all: if a pixel game creates drama because you don't win I don't think that the problem is into the pixel game. There will be ALWAYS drama, since some dragons are difficult to have. Anyway without the rares this game would become too easy and quickly boring. We should make a compromise, I think. What about make 2 BIG raffles instead of 4-5 as I've originally suggested, one in December and one on DC Birhtday or Summer?

 

Q: It's a Big work for Artists!

A: Yes, I know that and it's also true. I'm gratefull for those who are working free to do this game better. I was thinking a way to help them, maybe a topic where Minigames ideas could be proposed.

There is also January. (that's my opinion, maybe I'm saying stupid things because I don't know how they works) >> There are no relase in January, so why don't Moderators use this month to organize the following year? Which breeds should be relased, which themes for minigames should be used, maybe divide among them the graphic works that they will do? This could be a nice way to take a month while TJ is busy to give Prizes out.

Even If we would lost the August Relase because there would be a Raffle in July I don't see it as a BIG problem, since August is the month where less people could play!

 

If you have an event sugggestion please send it to thuban via PM : http://forums.dragcave.net/index.php?showuser=29032

Edited February 6, 2014 by Naruhina_94

[DigitalGarden]

1st July is strictly US holiday so eh, I wouldn't be so sure about implementing that.

 

And I actually prefer ideas to improve the annual raffles we have now instead of introducing more. I bet this wouldn't make my chances to win any higher anyway lol.

 

However, tiny mini games for pure fun? Why not, something for Easter except classic egg collecting would be nice.

[lilacamy931]

I definitely would not say no to more raffles, simply as I do find them fun even if not a winner. The only thing must consider is the work behind them and also whether TJ has the capacity to do so - as he has a real life and it seems a lot of work to do the redraws upon redraws and coding just for this event. Other than that, yes please!

[Iside]

I love the idea of more (mini) raffles around the year, to level the overwhelming price of 2nd gen prizes and to give more lineage possibilities

[Naruhina_94]

1st July is strictly US holiday so eh, I wouldn't be so sure about implementing that.

 

And I actually prefer ideas to improve the annual raffles we have now instead of introducing more. I bet this wouldn't make my chances to win any higher anyway lol.

 

However, tiny mini games for pure fun? Why not, something for Easter except classic egg collecting would be nice.

Ehm, I'm italian, I didn't thought about 1st July as an US holiday, it was neither come across my mind. I thought about it just as a Mid Year relase, or maybe a Summer Relase.

 

I think that create more raffle could improve your chance since the presence of other players may be more or less elevated and you could eneter in a Raffle with less players than another one (and have better chances to win of course!)

 

I already proposed mini games, but seems not so welcomed. I also think that litte games could be funny for a long time only if there is a prize after that.

For example I had proposed to add little games (as Puzzle, graphic adventure game) that let you earn some "coins". When you reach a certain amount of coins you could "buy" an old CB Holiday dragon or something not more avaliable in the cave.

I think that this would be fair, since it depends on player effort and not for lucky or something else. Anyway I won't even try to suggest this, there are too many people scared about.

[Thuban]

We've already made a habit of /trying/ to do things for the birthday, even if its just a themed release (like the pygmy swarm). I've pitched ideas in the past for summer events.. but its kind of hard, because a large number of the staff has work, school or family priorities that seem to eat up their time for summer. Some of us have kids, some of them are in college, some of them have long work hours. Some do a lot of traveling, and others have other commitments. Its not that we wouldn't like to do more.. but they are a lot of work, on our end, and sometimes on TJ to get put together in time

 

 

In terms of raffles, I'd like to see more throughout the year, but they do seem to require quite a bit of work to pull off. Especially since we DO have to plan an event around the idea of getting you guys tickets

 

 

 

[KageSora]

1st July is strictly US holiday so eh, I wouldn't be so sure about implementing that.

Er, it's July 4th, actually. Not the first.

 

Unless there's a holiday on the 1st that I've managed to be unaware of?

 

 

Personally, I'd not mind more raffles--but I can't think of a reason to have a holiday in the summer. Not sure of any holidays in the summer that are widely celebrated enough to be easily used?

[lilacamy931]

Dc's birthday or mid summer would make more sense. Only has valentines far too close to the Christmas raffle (example of now we are a week away from valentine breeding not all prize dragons out yet) and October comes across as hectic anyway and again might roll on too close to the Christmas raffle that end?

[Naruhina_94]

Er, it's July 4th, actually.  Not the first.

 

Unless there's a holiday on the 1st that I've managed to be unaware of?

 

 

Personally, I'd not mind more raffles--but I can't think of a reason to have a holiday in the summer.  Not sure of any holidays in the summer that are widely celebrated enough to be easily used?

I think there are not so many real holidays in Summer, I proposed that only to complete the raffle during the year, leaving no long empty periods.

 

We've already made a habit of /trying/ to do things for the birthday, even if its just a themed release (like the pygmy swarm). I've pitched ideas in the past for summer events.. but its kind of hard, because a large number of the staff has work, school or family priorities that seem to eat up their time for summer. Some of us have kids, some of them are in college, some of them have long work hours. Some do a lot of traveling, and others have other commitments. Its not that we wouldn't like to do more.. but they are a lot of work, on our end, and sometimes on TJ to get put together in time

 

 

In terms of raffles, I'd like to see more throughout the year, but they do seem to require quite a bit of work to pull off. Especially since we DO have to plan an event around the idea of getting you guys tickets

In fact I admire yours works, they are always well done. It's easy to see that there are a lot of effort behind them and I don't think that someone could say they aren't wonderful.

Where is a topic where event ideas could be suggested? Maybe you could have more help for the users themself (even if this would be less surprise effect)

Edited February 3, 2014 by Naruhina_94

[DigitalGarden]

Er, it's July 4th, actually. Not the first.

 

Unless there's a holiday on the 1st that I've managed to be unaware of?

 

 

Personally, I'd not mind more raffles--but I can't think of a reason to have a holiday in the summer. Not sure of any holidays in the summer that are widely celebrated enough to be easily used?

Derp, sorry. Still the beggining of July reminds me so.

[angelicdragonpuppy]

I think adding more Holiday releases would detract too much from regular releases. 5 Holidays a year means only 7 normal releases (or more likely less, if the fact that January was skipped this time means anything). So I'd rather just see regular releases during those times instead of limited Holiday ones.

 

I'd be up for another large raffle during Summer but I dislike the idea of doing mini ones throughout the year. Obviously this is just my opinion, but I usually find raffles more annoying than not--there's the disappointment of losing, and if you want a shot at low gens you feel obligated to scramble around like a headless chicken offering trades to all the new winners. Would much rather do that in two large raffles than have to repeat five times yearly.

Edited February 3, 2014 by angelicdragonpuppy

[DragonNighthowler]

Holidays are stressful enough as they are. I already have a hard time keeping with feast I don't celebrate, like Halloween and St Valentines, to have even more. Not to mention the DC team deserves their rest.

 

So I say no to this.

[FluffyPillow]

Er, it's July 4th, actually. Not the first.

 

Unless there's a holiday on the 1st that I've managed to be unaware of?

 

 

Personally, I'd not mind more raffles--but I can't think of a reason to have a holiday in the summer. Not sure of any holidays in the summer that are widely celebrated enough to be easily used?

July 1st is Canada Day But I agree, a few more smaller raffles would be nice, though whether that would get implemented or not is the question ^^;

[Sheriziya]

The Summer holiday event could be seen as the Summer solsice event (longest day of the year). That would be at/around June 21-23. I think that would be just before the summer holidays, so many players could still participate without "no internet/vacation/etc"-problems.

I think it would also be a wonderful way to start the summer!

 

I love the idea of an event evolving around DC's birthday. It would be a wonderful way to celebrate the existance of the cave and our joy about it!

 

I do understand Thuban's reluctancy for more events, though. I can imagine it's not easy coming up with new events every year. And the more events we think of, the higher the workload for mods and TJ becomes.

 

ADP makes a good point too: new/more events shouldn't mean a decline in normal releases as these already are very low.... I'd love to see this list of 500+ dragons actually released in the cave

Edited February 3, 2014 by Sheriziya

[Naruhina_94]

I think adding more Holiday releases would detract too much from regular releases. 5 Holidays a year means only 7 normal releases (or more likely less, if the fact that January was skipped this time means anything). So I'd rather just see regular releases during those times instead of limited Holiday ones.

 

I'd be up for another large raffle during Summer but I dislike the idea of doing mini ones throughout the year. Obviously this is just my opinion, but I usually find raffles more annoying than not--there's the disappointment of losing, and if you want a shot at low gens you feel obligated to scramble around like a headless chicken offering trades to all the new winners. Would much rather do that in two large raffles than have to repeat five times yearly.

Maybe just one more holidays to celebrate DC' Birthday could be evaluated? This shouldn't take so much from normal relases, and I see more sense in game for this one.

You've got a good point, anyway we are already discussing about getting a normal relase on January, in fact this is a problem that many players would be happy to solve

Two Big raffle seems two bricks during the year, I fear there would be a clumping of players like during Christmas and few ways to avoid it.

[KageSora]

July 1st is Canada Day But I agree, a few more smaller raffles would be nice, though whether that would get implemented or not is the question ^^;

True, but the post I was quoting mentioned July first being a US holiday, not Canadian.

[Princess_Pinkie]

i support more raffles 100%. i like the idea of a summer solstice event because theres such a long drought between DC's bday and halloween. if there were to be only two raffles a year, i think placing it in the summer is best.

 

also, the fertility rework is pure genius and should be implemented.

[RainDear]

The following is my opinion, just my opinion. I do not presume to speak for anyone else.

 

We already lose regular releases for nearly half the year due to the holidays we celebrate now. Lose more regular releases to have more holidays? More work for DC staff? More stress for players? I don't think so.

[King_Max_Cat]

I think adding more Holiday releases would detract too much from regular releases. 5 Holidays a year means only 7 normal releases (or more likely less, if the fact that January was skipped this time means anything). So I'd rather just see regular releases during those times instead of limited Holiday ones.

 

I'd be up for another large raffle during Summer but I dislike the idea of doing mini ones throughout the year. Obviously this is just my opinion, but I usually find raffles more annoying than not--there's the disappointment of losing, and if you want a shot at low gens you feel obligated to scramble around like a headless chicken offering trades to all the new winners. Would much rather do that in two large raffles than have to repeat five times yearly.

Agreed! I like normal releases, and besides, isn't the whole point of the raffles that you're winning something rare? If there's lots of raffles giving out prizes like Shimmerscales and Tinsels (CB) then, yes, the cave will become more populated with those shinies....do you really want that? of course this goes back to the old "more rares makes then less rare-should-we-make-rares-more-common" debate.

 

I'm thinking maybe more normal releases, or 3-day releases? 1-day special holiday releases kind of make me shy away because the players who aren't on DC for that one day are really missing out.... I do like the idea of a summer release...Remember the Beat The Heat summer release? The was on July 4th; we should do that again

 

Maybe release more dragon breeds per release? as in, 3-5 dragon breeds per release, maybe?

Edited February 3, 2014 by King_Max_Cat

[rumor33]

Torn on this. While I would like to see one more raffle in the summer, I don't want to see the regular releases be messed up. I also would prefer if the Summer prize was a different dragon personally.

[sbowen]

I think this would be a good idea. I loved the minigame this year and I loved the raffle.

[Fuzzbucket]

I think adding more Holiday releases would detract too much from regular releases. 5 Holidays a year means only 7 normal releases (or more likely less, if the fact that January was skipped this time means anything). So I'd rather just see regular releases during those times instead of limited Holiday ones.

This.

[Xythus]

Holidays are stressful enough as they are. I already have a hard time keeping with feast I don't celebrate, like Halloween and St Valentines, to have even more. Not to mention the DC team deserves their rest.

 

So I say no to this.

Agreeing with this and Thuban 100%. Remember that the artists on this site do all the art for FREE and at the expense of their own time and obligation. If we had events constantly, then that means we'd have to demand more and more of their time as events are all planned in advance. Not to mention, it takes a huge ton of work to sprite/draw everything.

 

There is absolutely no need for more events; they happen because holidays are speschul times of the year. If there was more, they wouldn't be events; they would be more like "off side mini games" or "quests" like other sites. Which DC isn't. As someone mentioned, TJ does throw in tidbits from time to time like easter egg hunting for other times of the year.

 

I am against this idea.

 

[angelicdragonpuppy]

Agreed! I like normal releases, and besides, isn't the whole point of the raffles that you're winning something rare? If there's lots of raffles giving out prizes like Shimmerscales and Tinsels (CB) then, yes, the cave will become more populated with those shinies....do you really want that? of course this goes back to the old "more rares makes then less rare-should-we-make-rares-more-common" debate.

Oh I think Prizes could do with being a bit less rare, I'm just saying I'd rather only deal with the annoyance of losing and the stress of trying to trade for low gens once or twice a year instead of five times. The OP wasn't suggesting a drastic increase in the amount of prizes given out--just that they be distributed more widely throughout the year.

[Kaoto_Susanao235]

Agreeing with this and Thuban 100%. Remember that the artists on this site do all the art for FREE and at the expense of their own time and obligation. If we had events constantly, then that means we'd have to demand more and more of their time as events are all planned in advance. Not to mention, it takes a huge ton of work to sprite/draw everything.

 

There is absolutely no need for more events; they happen because holidays are speschul times of the year. If there was more, they wouldn't be events; they would be more like "off side mini games" or "quests" like other sites. Which DC isn't. As someone mentioned, TJ does throw in tidbits from time to time like easter egg hunting for other times of the year.

 

I am against this idea.

^ This completely. Nothing else need be said.